Is this Fake? They started to make fake Grand Seikos now??

Grand Fake-o's

As CNC and other tech gets cheaper and cheaper, it’s gonna get real hard to tell fakes, and there will be a ton more of em (saw this said by one of them influence people on the Tube).

They make fake Seiko Alpanist…so I’m sure there are fake Grand Seikos. Whatever will make them money they will copy.

The accompanying packaging is certainly unusual for GS unless they now have a new emphasis on beach chic?

Presumably it is portending to be a SBGP009?

I haven’t bothered to check the case back but the printing of “Grand Seiko” seems weak and thin to me. Obviously one is professionally photographed and the other not but the edges of the indices, hands and pinion cap also don’t look as sharp as they should be.

And certainly the knurling on the crown is very different.

I don’t think I would be an enthusiastic buyer.

Looks like a SBGX295, which should be about $1200-$1300 USD on the pre-owned market. How much are they asking? Have them show a picture with the back cover removed, the 9F quartz movement or lack thereof would be a sure sign weather it's genuine or not.

I LOL'd! Good one!

Yes, they certainly make fake Grand Seikos. If you want unbranded dials of GS designs you will have to specifically look for them on AliExpress, as there are so many with the GS logo.

I would assume it is false unless proven otherwise. Almost all popular Seiko watches also exist as fakes.

This is why we can't have nice things...

Buy from an AD, reputable grey market dealer, or personal friend, or don't buy at all at this price point.

At this very instant there's an ad of Marketplace for fake GS's (and Rolex, Tudor, etc). At least they're not advertising them as real, at least. I suppose that's something...

Grand Seiko fake dials are all over Aliexpress...so are the hands and cases to put a NH35 under it all.

Yeah - you have to be VERY CAREFUL, especially with quartz. If they can open the car back you’ll know right away. Good luck!!!

The Great Feiko!

@Ichibunz built me an “Explorer/GS” hybrid. The case is essentially a clone of a GS case with a different deployant clasp. Yeah, they’re are TONS of clones/copies/homages/etc.

Looks OK to me might be cheaper because its not on a bracelet,and doesn't come with right packaging box ext,there are fake GS but there bad really bad can't fake that polish just yet 😬👍check serial numbers my friend and make sure you can return and get your money back if its fake👍

Za-not-su polishing.

If the price was to good to be true it probably was

The polishing don’t look right. Mine is a 9F Quartz and compare the polishing

The polishing is pretty hard to fake I think.

This re-enforces my determination that I should only by Spring Drive GS. They are impossible to truly fake. The cost of faking the movement means a net loss.

Only if you get a video of the unit. If you’re going off of photos, you might still not be able to tell.

Also, a 9F quartz movement is very hard to fake too, if you get to see it in person or see a slow-mo video - the double-tick, no-backlash movement is also not easily cloned.

Well, I've seen Serica clones on Aliexpress. So yeah, there will be Grand Seiko fakes...

Don't know enough about Grand Seiko to spot a fake. It's a shame that this sort of thing happens..

Great reason to stick with Spring Drive--can't fake those.

I meant in the hand. It's impossible to fake the spring drive in person. I assume a fake watch can then be returned.

To be honest, it looks real to me.

Good one😁

Sneak-o

If you have suspicions don't buy it. If a deal seems too good to be true it probably is.

It might be. This one is 100% fake and it looks similar. Especially the date font.

Hello,

Just logged to get you some info. Had like 7-8 grand seiko on 9f. This from picture is 100% fake. My brother bought sbgp last month from chrono with box and documents and it was obvious fake. 2017-2024 gs quartz don’t have engraving case back, the lion looks shitty. The bracelets are rounded and shiny on curves. End links on fakes don’t have signs like a13 c13 etc. We can’t open the backcase so we don’t know what was inside, it was sticked with glue and we needed to send it back to chrono and get money back so we can’t destroy it to see sadly.. for sure it wasn’t 9f, ticking looks like cheap quartz watch.. they make sbgx and sbgp fake. With poor lighting photos it’s hard to tell if it’s gen or not looking just on dial. If you look backcase it’s obvious. Crown is shitty aswell.

It’s should look like this