TUDOR IS A POOR MANS ROLEX…

I was introduced to Tudor with that same sentiment. I think that contributed in me not purchasing a BB58 as well as a couple of other things.

I bought the same BBPro as you have and I think it’s a brilliant watch. Looks and feels very premium and I wouldn’t expect a jump in quality even if you swapped the logo for the crown. In terms of build quality I don’t think it’s lacking anything to the GMT II.

I still want a GMT II and am awaiting the phone call for my Pepsi (lol). But that’s not because the BBPro is inferior, it’s just a completely different aesthetic and vibe.

It is a statement that needs to be lost from all vernacular. I do not know many poor people that have $3000-$5000 lying around to buy any watch. Anyone in a position to spend that kind of money on a pure luxury purchase is not poor.

Taking the insensitivity out of it, I own a bunch of each brand and I appreciate each for different reasons. While there are distinct differences between each, both are outstanding brands. No matter what we like in life, there will always be different tiers that meet at the corner of price, quality, design, and exclusivity and that is okay. I feel we can appreciate brands up and down the price band without having to put one down to lift our own preferences up.

My view is that when Wildorf created Tudor he proved to business the world over that people were prepared to pay more for one brand name despite the quality being near identical in another.

Tudor make some great watches especially the pelagos range I'm watching for the fxd ,I tried the BBpro on but found it too small ,also the ranger was too small ,the quality is something people need to be aware of as it's Very good,Hans Wildorf wanted to build a watch that was available to the average person with high quality materials,I think he got it right

I also heard Seiko is a poor man’s Grand Seiko !! 😂

And yes I’m a poor man … 😜

I’m a huge seiko fan but as far as Grand Seiko if I’m going to spend that muchI’d rather get Swiss made. Beautiful dials though!!

Wow!! And you call your self a Seiko fan … maybe someone needs to educate you and get yourself educated with Japanese movements … ok I’ll be nice and just agree with you about the dials… you sound a little elitist … so this will be my last interaction with you… muted!

Hahaha!!! Don’t get me wrong!! The watches look great and have been tempted…. Maybe in the future.

More like a "less rich" mans Rolex

I have said this before but in my opinion Tudor occupy the space that Rolex left vacant a few years ago. Tudor build quality watches that offer in relative terms good value for a premium watch.

Rolex build quality watches that no longer offer value for money in the premium sector.

I own a couple of Tudors. I would not buy a Rolex new although I greatly admire some of their older models.

Tudor provide for all my premium watch needs.

Grand Seiko has amazing craftsmanship...but I'm utterly confused by your conclusion that he's "elitist" simply because he has a preference toward swiss-made (unless you're being sarcastic, which does not translate well in written form 😉).

“Poor man’s [whatever]” says a lot more about the person using the idiom than it does whatever they’re referring to.

Wasn't Tudor founded to build watches that would be more accessible to the masses, but with Rolex quality??

If you go back 10-15 years, Tudor used to make some 'interesting' pieces that I think Rolex would never consider. It's only in recent years that Tudor been heavily compared to Rolex, because a lot of their releases have taken inspiration from past Rolex models.

The Spring Drive would like a word . . . haha

True! I was afraid I'd be judged for having a Tudor and glad now I got one.

On that I agree 100%. I can definitely appreciate a watch whether I can afford to buy it or not. But after a certain pricepoint watches do become an F You as an ostentatious display of wealth, if not for the owner then for many onlookers. Hence flex culture.

It's like Dave Chappelle said: "Poor is a mentality. If you can't afford to buy something, you're just broke." 😎

It's the Rolex for a more budget conscious but not necessarily poor consumer. That said, a good amount of savings is probably achieved by being "flexible" in regard to how "Swiss Made" that watch really is... the guidelines are rather loose on that.

While Tudor does share heritage, design language, technology, and vision of Rolex, I feel that the longer they are around, the more they are becoming their own. The sentiment of them being a "poor man's Rolex" will likely never go away sadly, but so be it. I'm fine being called poor all day! Tudor is putting out great watches at solid prices, and in my opinion they are most definitely holding their own. I love me Pelagos beyond words, and I can't wait to have a BB Pro to compliment it.

Congrats on both your new Rolex and BB Pro. Both brands make excellent watches. I don't love the scarcity of Rolex nor the prices being super inflated, but the Crown still does put out some great and timeless designs. Wear yours in great health!

Interesting. Part of me feels that way but I also love some these pieces that are in reach for me. I hate I have to pay a crazy price, My Milgauss for example, but that watch means something to me and was able to make that jump so I did.

I actually like the BBPro I just got from them.

Don't be a baby. We all have our opinions. He wasn't being mean. He was just expressing his opinion. Actually, you sound like an arrogant know-it-all suggesting he needs to "educate" himself about Japanese movements so as not to possibly hurt your delicate feelings. Loosen up your man bun. People can disagree with you without being "elitist".

This topic comes up so often across the internet, and here we go again 🙂

I wear a Tudor and not only am I fine with the expression that a Tudor is a poor man's Rolex, I also happen to think it's true. After all, it's how the the company started - it's right there in Wilsdorf's mission statement when Tudor was created - and the companies are still intertwined today, although admittedly not to the same degree that they were 'back in the day' when Rolex was even making Tudor watches.

I don't think there's anything to be ashamed about or any other negative emotion. It is what it is. The brands share history, they share DNA, and one is a lot cheaper than the other. It's a no-brainer to say that a Tudor is a poor man's Rolex. Some may say it as an insult, but the joke's really on them as Tudor makes such great stuff for a fraction of Rolex prices; anyone wearing one is clearly pretty savvy about watches.

Well said!

I tried on the 36mm Explorer and I liked it and put my name down . Then I tried on the Tudor Ranger & just was smitten instantly AND could take it NOW on the bracelet sized up while I had a coffee and walked out the door within an hour . There was that too …. I will probably buy the BB 54 to boot at the end of the year or the Rootbeer GMT . I’m sold on Tudor …. MPO

i was browsing Watches Of Espionage on Instagram and i like how he put it: “One only has to look at the logos to understand the relationship between the two brands. Tudor's logo is the shield, Rolex's is the crown. The crown is worn by kings, the shield is carried by soldiers. The ’shield protects the crown’ and the Warrior-King reps both. This is the way.”

I like that ethos that the shield is carried by the soldiers and I can identify with that at times. i like the brand identify of Tudor being the tool watch. that’s something i can get behind.

i guess that makes me the Warrior-King because i rep both. 😂😂

A poor mans Rolex, back in the day in 1980s and 1990's a Tudor watch its crown would be a rolex crown, its bracelet would say rolex its case back would say rolex, just the dial would say tudor and the calibre which you couldn't see anyway- yet at same time Rolex didn't manufacture their own watches!

Well, they aren’t made by the same company and people who still believe Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex, doesn’t know anything about watches since the beginning of the 21st century. And not wanting to pay the over inflated grey market prices is in my mind complete sense. Retail yes, many of us own watches that cost more than many of the Rolex models RRP. And I love my watches, but would I have purchased them at a significant inflated grey price. Absolutely not.

And as bizarre as it may seem there are watch lovers who just don’t enjoy or like Rolex no matter the price. But love Tudor.

There you go Tudor over double the RRP already. More than an Explorer 1

Congratulations on a beautiful watch! IMO Tudor is now it's own brand with a parent company that makes great watches. There are so many great Tudor models it is hard to justify looking at Rolex. Rolex is like standing in line for hours to try to gain a access to an exclusive club. Tudor is a great little place at the beach with awesome food, music, drinks where all the A List actually hang out.

I was disappointed with this release. Tudor released a former Rolex Explorer 2 reference??? Why?! They have a ton of their own references to re release!

And the thing is that Explorer 2 from the 60’s is better looking and half the thickness of a watch made in 2022 with 50 years of technology and innovations ! ?

now if Tudor keep releasing homages of their big brothers former references it becomes easier to say that statement!

I love my 2 Tudors and on the whole…. The brand is kicking butt right now!