What's everyone's views on Pagani Design?
I recently picked up their datejust homage and I have to say. Wow the quality for the money is outstanding and it puts Seikos and citizens costing 3x as much to shame. I'm now thinking about buying their speedmaster homage as I am told it's very good. What is the general view of the brand. Just curious.
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I have 2 of the PD speedy homages, and they are well made for the money.
A better name might be "Pagani Photocopier". Using "design" is stretching things a little. But saying that, I understand they are pretty solid watches and good spec for the money. If you're after a budget homage watch, they should be alongside brands like Steeldive, Baltany. Benyar, Chronos, Addiesdive, Parnis etc etc etc. Looking at their output, it's hard not to come to the conclusion that they all have components manufactured in the same place and assembled by the individual brands.
Probably one of the best copied watches out there. Their watches are surprisingly solid and well made
I have no problem with these kinda brands nor I would ever judge anyone who buys them. But I dislike the term "homage" for watches that simply copy the design of others.
Cool bro
And your point on replying to me is?
No direct experience with the brand. I hear good things about their quality and value. I’ve been tempted by a few of their offerings, especially the Polar Explorer, but never pulled the trigger.
Also this comment section isnt for people who think watches like paganis are 💩 it's for me trying to work out if there speedmaster homage is any good
Also this comment section isnt for people who think watches like paganis are 💩 it's for me trying to work out if there speedmaster homage is any good
Didn't you ask what we think of the brand?
Also this comment section isnt for people who think watches like paganis are 💩 it's for me trying to work out if there speedmaster homage is any good
I don't know about that. Didn't you ask for people's general opinion? Or do you just want to hear what you want to hear to justify your recent purchase?
Didn't you ask what we think of the brand?
I'm not upset you think the brands bad. I mind you commenting on people's self esteem. Not everyone can afford the real thing.
I would say the brand is perfectly fine for what it is. It's just once the comparisons start that things become murky.
That's what Pagani does – they make clones at a more affordable price.
If you want to show that you're an original person, maybe you're presenting yourself as a clone to others? Without your own reputation or self-respect, is that how you represent yourself by using a Pagani watch?
It is my perception if I encounter people wearing replicas and not acknowledging the identity of the original watch manufacturers.
I bought this for £89 from AliExpress.. it's remarkably good for that. It has an NH35 so ghost date wheel .. but frankly... who cares. Screw down crown and sapphire crystal. More WR than the overrated, vastly over-priced watch it's an homage of...
No complaints from ne.
Since you asked, I do not appreciate watches that borrow designs from other brands.
The quality is good, and that’s important, but there is nothing authentic about them. Their mission is to make money by selling someone else’s design for less money.
Regarding built quality, it's reportedly a good budget option, though I've heard some people had issues, just like Steeldive and unlike Addiesdive, Cronos, San Martin, Parnis or non-Ali brands like Tisell or Steinhart.
Regarding branding, it's neither design or connected to Pagani cars. They're "Pagrne Design" where they can't get away with it. This puts them below any other copy-producing brands in my eyes.
As a happy owner of a Tisell, I'll add: Copies might eventually become boring and you'll strive for original designs or true homages. Nothing wrong about that, just be aware.
You’re right.
Anyway... to the actual feedback needed by the OP:
I think PD is great value for money and have their Speedmaster homage in my cart for the longest time. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is I couldn't decide between the red bezel and hands version or the black and gold dial version. Also I recently got a 1998 Omega Speedmaster Automatic so my thirst for a similar chronograph had all but disappeared.
But no issue whatsover about getting something else from Pagani Design.
They are really well made for the money, I've got 3 so far with another on the way. The datejust is a little bit long in the lug-to-lug compared to the original but it's okay. They were only £40 in the recent 11/11 sale, so everyone should have one by now.
I still haven't bought a Pagani Speedmaster because I bought the Daytona with the same movement inside and it suits me better. I wish it was more legible, but the original suffers from the same problems too. I might get the Speedmaster version eventually though.
Another good one which I know of but haven't bought is their Air King copy. I don't particularly like the Air King or Explorer style in general though, so I've held off getting one of those too. I was very tempted during the sale, but I started to question if I did actually like it or if I was just buying it because it was cheap.
As I often say, anything which guides people away from the overpriced so-called "luxury" brands and saves them from being ripped off for thousands of dollars/pounds because of marketing and brainwashing is good in my book. The trouble is that watch people aren't always sensible, they get "influenced" too easily, and trying to get people to boycott the big brands until they reduce their greedy prices to something reasonable for normal people is never going to happen. Some people just want to "flex" how much money they can spend (or waste) for some reason, as if that makes them superior to other mortals, even though the rest of us just shake our heads and look at them while thinking the worst thoughts about their characters possible.
Every watch is a homage of every other watch philosophically and realistically speaking, so all the pearl clutchers and watch snobs need to pull their heads in. All their watches are full of Chinese parts, so they can get off their xenophobic high horses too.
The only thing I dislike about Pagani Design is the fluctuating prices. It's not a big deal and is negligible overall, but sometimes they are ridiculously cheap and sometimes they are more than I want to pay depending on which way the wind is blowing or which AliExpress store is selling the latest version. The deciding factor for me is how much VAT gets added at the end because I absolutely resent giving our government even more money than I already have to on a daily basis.
With Black Friday coming, I'm sure I'll get another Pagani Design in preference to a Cadisen/Corgeut/Bliger or similar, and certainly in preference to San Martin which is wickedly expensive for something which offers no real advantage over the cheaper homages other than maybe (and debatable) extra QC and a little more attention to finer details.
I feel the same way about San Martin. All things being equal, I don't get how expensive they get compared to a Pagani or Loreo or Cadisen.
Also this comment section isnt for people who think watches like paganis are 💩 it's for me trying to work out if there speedmaster homage is any good
I don’t like the name at all but I have three of their homages (I do try homages where I am unlikely to ever own the actual watches). I have the Daytona, the Longines Spirit and the mechanical Speedmaster.
All three are excellent at capturing the superficial wearing experience of the watch they are homaging - obviously being nowhere near in terms of quality. But, for the money, I think they are good value particularly the mechanical chronograph.
Having experienced the homages I would be quite interested in the originals being homaged. Obviously the Daytona is out of reach, so the Longines is the leader for me of the other two in terms of likelihood but - perversely - that’s because I really like the PD Speedmaster and as the Omega itself only has 50m WR I am unlikely to go for it.
If you can get the mechanical one for the right price then I can recommend it.
I don’t have a PD but from what I’ve seen I personally couldn’t look at my wrist knowing that it is, without question, a direct copy.
If someone knew what a Rolex GMT Master II or Omega Speedmaster looked like and called me out on wearing something fake, I would be embarrassed no doubt.
I have zero problem with brands taking inspiration from watches and applying their own little adjustments but copying is wrong.
This is IMO of course!
Happy thanksgiving everyone!
I have a few Pagani Design watches and really enjoy them. The "homage" designs are an inexpensive way for me to see if I like a certain style and avoid investing a ton of money in something I may not like in the end. I'm a sucker for bargains, so the frugality of it is part of the allure. They are generally very well made for the price and have features like sapphire crystals, good movements, etc that are amazing values.
It has surprised me how few people notice what brand my watches are. If someone likes the look, they usually just compliment the style of the watch and don't pay attention to branding. Maybe that's unusual, but I work in finance and it's amazing how unimportant the actual brand is to most people out there. Most of the people I meet are wearing smart watches or super luxury pieces, and none of them have been snobby about my choices. However, I don't buy a watch to impress others, I buy it for my own enjoyment. I really don't care if they are going to be snobby about it, I consider my purchases to be my business. I'm the one wearing the watch and living with it. That's my approach, and it certainly makes the experience more fun.
I do find that some PD watches have different specs, like thicker cases than some luxury models they are mimicking (especially BB58) so check those against what you are looking for to make sure you get what you want.
Other than that, I think they are a great way to spend less money for something that looks more expensive than it is and performs nicely.
Just looked at the Pagani website as I have never even looked at them except on this site. 😮
I don’t own a Pagani as yet but what I seen and learned they are getting better each year. This is the king of homages and they not ashamed of it and pretty soon they gonna surpass some of these micro brand. This is chinese ace brand out there.
For some reason I don't like