Crazy for not liking Tudor?

Whilst I can certainly appreciate what Tudor has done in the last decade, I find myself on the outside looking in: it seems everyone likes Tudor/Black Bay, but I haven't come close to falling for any of their models. They're obviously well built and attractive, but I feel something is missing and I can't quite figure out what it is. Am I crazy for not liking Tudor, or do I just have a non-standard taste in watches? Does anyone else feel similarly?

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No, no, I feel precisely the same way.

  • Phenomenal watches

  • Great vintage vibes

  • Incredible value proposition in terms of price relative to competitors given brand equity and specs and all that

Nonetheless, this is about all I can muster...

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I'm just not into tool watches. I mean, I love cosplay as much as the next guy, but I can't quite pull off the, "I'm a rugged individual, who gives no f*cks, and I'll wear this here godd*mn luxury watch while I chain saw this bear in half." No, I do give some f*cks. I don't like wearing my watches when I'm weed whacking, much less killing wildlife!

For that reason, I also have zero interest in Rolex. Except for their blingy ass gold watches! Like, this is gorgeous to my mind, precisely because it ain't pretending to be anything other than jewelry!

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I think pretty soon I'm gonna start going after watches like this...

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On YouTube, on here and it seems like everywhere, Tudor is the belle of the ball. I’ve tried talking myself into them. I’ve tried to love them. I mean, who wouldn’t want a great value for the money, super sought after watch?

And then I go to my AD and put one on my wrist and… “meh”. Had a chance to walk out with a Pelagos 39 last month. It stirred nothing in me.

So no, you’re not crazy. And no, you don’t have a non-standard taste in watches. IMHO of Baskin Robbins 31 flavors, Tudor is vanilla.

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I tried the 54 and said “meh”. Then I tried on the new one with the burgundy bezel and jubilee bracelet and said “yeah!”

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I guess I don’t understand why anyone would try to like something. If you don’t like them, that’s cool. Plenty of other fish as they say. And especially if you don’t even like tool watches, there’s really no need to waste any time on Tudor.

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I always thought they are just ... Fine. Middle of the road looks and build quality, nothing to get excited about. Getting excited about them is like getting excited about a sensible family sedan.

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I hate the hour hand.

Huge dealbreaker for me.

Not crazy about the one on the Ranger either.

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One of the possible functions of any fashion item is to stand out. I'm sure the BB58 delivers in every practical respect, and nobody outside watch forums will ever look at it and think "how unoriginal", but inside this weird little social circle I can't help but get bored seeing too much of it. That's just my personality; I also can't stand to support a winning sports team. If I have $3,000, then I can afford to not follow the crowd.

It does make me wonder what the forum favourites 5 or 10 years ago were. Do their "timeless designs" and "good value propositions" still hold up today? (The nostalgia cycle is pretty predictable, so with the 1970s being at peak popularity today, we should expect to see a 1960s aesthetic dominating in 2013.)

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MarkHackman

I always thought they are just ... Fine. Middle of the road looks and build quality, nothing to get excited about. Getting excited about them is like getting excited about a sensible family sedan.

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My 1981 Toyota Corolla hatchback was and always will be my favorite car of all time. Sensible? Check. Family sedan? Check. A hatchback no less!

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That's the beaut of the hobby. I can see points from those that go meh, but for me I'm all about that Pelagos. As Watches of Espionage put it, "The Apex Predator of Luxury Tool Watches".

Super dig the LHD or the FXD. Maybe even a LHD FXD in black eventually....? A boy can dream. Either way saving slowly for it.

Those models in particular have basically replaced the MilSub as one of the last few big name brands in the actually military issued automatics. Marathon and CWC notwithstanding. (Few microbrands out there too like Sangin, Resco, Ares, Elliot Brown and Yema).

TL;DR You aren't weird at all, your tastes are your own. 🤘🏻🤙🏻😎

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Anything with traffic sign hands is a no go for me.

I would get a Ranger if I could afford one. Same with the 1926.

But because what I see is about 90/10 BB/non-BB, I sometimes forget that Tudor makes non-BB watches.

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I have heard over and over about their GADA qualities...and sure they are appealing on that front.

Here comes my overly DRAMATIC/terrible/super unpopular/and certainly uneducated takes (I totally admit to still being a newbie in a lot of areas and Tudor is 100% a brand I have put so little research into.) And I am totally open minded to them and maybe one day I'll look back at this and cringe really hard LOL. So time to have some fun:

  • I don't like the name Tudor for reasons I can't explain. Just an odd word.

  • I get annoyed with the naming structure of all the models

  • Shield Logo/TUDOR/GENEVE just does absolutely nothing for me on the dials

  • I think it's funny that items that cost upwards of $3k feel the need to litter the dial with "CHRONOMETER" "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" "SUPERLATIVE" etc. Like just put that crap in the owner's manual lol. I sure hope they are all those things and I can't imagine ever being in a situation where I need to look down and read that as a huge sigh of relief lol whew my $3k+ watch is officially certified, got worried it wasn't there for a second. (I know this is not just a Tudor thing.)

  • The odd use of that patina gold on so many of the models is meh

  • I wish the rose logo was on all of them to just have a tiny ounce of quirk/charm/playfulness

  • Instead it feels like hmm let's take a Submariner, change to some odd patina/vintage elements, throw some snowflake hands on them, maybe even squares instead of circles!, and then we can nope that's all we can muster. Call it day, everything we touch at this point works.

I can say all that and still give them props for basically everything Rolex/Tudor touches is just unreal levels of success.

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“Meh” I could take it or leave it. It looks and feels like a nice watch that I just can’t get behind. There are independent watch brands doing more for the same or less money.

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No, you are not crazy and you are not the only one who's not interested in Tudor.

@Aurelian and @Porthole discussed their reasons for not really liking the BB58 in their "Don't buy this watch, Vol I" thread, and I agree with most of their reasons.

Tudor in general seems to avoid originality as if it was the plague. Their only attempt at making something truly unique, the North Flag, tanked badly and they learned this lesson well. So well that today they could also be called the Black Bay Company and no one would notice anything different.

Their best selling models are the horological equivalent of hotel art and room decorations which are designed to fill a blank wall without offending anyone's taste. It's a brilliant strategy since it helped them become one of the first choices for anyone wanting to dip its toes into luxury watches, but it also makes it very difficult to like them for someone like me.

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I’m with you. I kind of like the Pelagos FXD but not enough to buy one.

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Snowflake hour hand looks silly.

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Hmm, sounds like a conspiracy. Quick, someone call Maga.

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Yowza 🤯

🤐 stay mute my friends 🤘🍻

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SabreNY

Interesting. I think you are the proud owner of an actual hobby. Don't let it go to your head!

Not following your point here? You wanna start something? You have been muted! I don’t suffer fools lightly.🤫

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What mailing list should I subscribe to so I know what brands to like?

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BeardsForBirds

What mailing list should I subscribe to so I know what brands to like?

I think you first have to decide what type of watches you want then go to those websites and get on their email lists. Although I’m not on any watch mailing lists right now. They, as a general rule, send way too many emails and are usually not what I’m interested in. So I have unsubscribed to all of them now.

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I own a BB58 and I love it. But in other ways, I know exactly what you mean. I feel the same as you about Grand Seiko. They're great watches, but I can't stand them.

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I totally understand not being a fan of Tudor watches. They are pretty stoic pieces for the most part. For me, I wanted the ‘cornerstone’ watch in my collection to be classically styled and from a brand big enough to know it will likely be around in the future and that I can get it serviced. I love my 58 and like Tudor, but I can see why people find the brand boring.

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You’re posting on a watch forum. Of course you’re crazy. Craziness aside, it’s OK to not like certain watches or brands. There is more to Tudor than just the Black Bays and the Pelagoses. They do have some models with a bit of bling and not a snowflake to be seen. Gold! Diamonds! Fancy bezels!

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I am not sure I really understand the question you are asking, as it’s a question of personal taste - nothing more, nothing less.

There are multiple watch makers that I recognize for their contributions, but they don’t tickle my interest.

Sometimes it takes an experience with a watch to “get it” and create the desire to own one.

In that perspective: Nah - you are not more crazy than anyone else why cares for watches🤪

Peace🤘

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foghorn

I hate the hour hand.

Huge dealbreaker for me.

Not crazy about the one on the Ranger either.

I’m in this boat….. the hour hand just does nothing for me but look …………………………..🤷🏼‍♂️

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I like watches, even like the modern Tudors, didn’t have the intelligence to keep the vintage Tudors that sold for peanuts when I first collected vintage watches. Certain sellers made the purchase of a common brand like Tudor a condition of sale when they offered something more desirable. Tudors were almost never Franken watches, same could not be said for 1950s and 60s steel Rolex watches being sold. I have my name on a Tudor boutique for a Pelagos FXD, told the sales pro that I was in hurry but definitely would buy one. After quite a long period I received a text one late evening last week alerting me to one in their showroom for sale. I said that I would make my way to the mall in a few days, they are already familiar with my history. The minute I said next week it was sold to the next fella on her list. I take no offence but may decide that I have enough Tudor watches already.

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Yeah, you're crazy. 😂

Naw really, it is up to the individual. Personally I don't get the Seiko mechanical craze.

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I've seen a few that I liked, but not enough to want to own them. The majority I really dislike because of the snowflake hand. I think that's an acquired taste, like Scotch. But then, just like Scotch, I have to ask myself, "Why would I want to "acquire" a taste?" The only reason I can think of to acquire a taste is to impress others. I just don't have the time...

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foghorn

I hate the hour hand.

Huge dealbreaker for me.

Not crazy about the one on the Ranger either.

Same. I really like the watches, but the weird hour hand keeps me away.

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I do. Two Door is just a sub-brand of that other company Roll X.