Hublot Hate and Richard Mille Love?

I am highly critical of Richard Mille, and I have heard other critics of the brand. It seems to me that there are supporters and detractors for both brands. I am one who has no use for either, and I place much of Egard in the same category; big clunky brutalist watches with no aesthetic appeal, at least for me.

Both are trash 😂. I’m bitter because one watch is as expensive as my house. I’m going to cry in my cheap beer now.

Everytime I see a picture of a hublot, the screws aren’t even aligned, for like 10k? That’s ridiculous. They couldn’t even align them for the picture. That’s my problem with hublot, for the price the quality doesn’t quite seem to be there. Otherwise they might be fine watches (not my style). I feel like with Richard Mille, as far as I can estimate, that sort of finishing quality is there. Still ridiculously priced, but your screws will be aligned for 100k +

IDK about RM getting only praise because I saw plenty of criticism here about them.

Personally I have no interest in these brands.

Hype and demand for RM is a social construct. It’s for that instagram flex. It’s made popular by hip hop artist or movie star with net worth equal to GDP of small countries. Hublot attracts a younger clientele, and they do a good job marketing it to them.

I mostly see vendors praising RM actually. But don’t quote me on that. 👀

I was under the impression that, like me, most enthusiasts disliked both.

its easy, hublot get more hate because their screw isnt alligned. see? 😂😂

I am not haute couture enough to understand either brands' design ethos. Personally not for me, if someone wants to go for it, go for it.

I'd only vote Hublot, since with RM there are quite literally tens/hundreds of thousands of things you could do with that kind of cash. RM pieces might be one of the only true "flex" watches I can think of. And even if could afford one, I'd still opt to buy the entire SilcencerCo catalog, every Issued CWC/Tudor/Type I I could get my hands on. And then put the rest of the cash into land somewhere 😂.

I’m not a fan of either brands 😝

Both are nouveaux riches! 😂 I would rather buy Teslas. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Who praises RMs, other than the dealers who are selling them for such a large markup and rappers, bitcoiners, and wannabes?

Hublots are overpriced and hyped...that will always generate derision from people who know better.

Kinda similar to Panerai, except Panerai attempts to lean on the valid history of the brand. BTW - does anyone else notice how many YTubers are praising Panerai...I smell a rat or two...hopefully Max is not being unduly influenced by this weird trend.

Remember caviar is really just nasty tasting expensive fish eggs...

Hublots are overpriced and people hate their ads of "for the rich and the exclusive" lifestyle for what movement they're getting.

But someone said that RM is on its own level, hyper luxury watch. Some say that they're is the hypercar of watches. Like a Pagani, you cannot say 'why buy Pagani when a charger is faster?'

RM is on its own level and most of us probably wont ever be on its level and relate to it.

Yes and no. As always to each their own.

Should I find myself in RM territory, still won't relate to it. Adding more zeros to my bank account doesn't magically make me inclined to like it or relate to it.

Cuz they aren't my style and for the asking price of an RM, I'd want something that went to the moon, flew over Western France, or jumped into Vietnam. But that's me, YMMV.

However I still believe, an RM, much like a Pagani, is a flex. I don't really think it can be anything other than that. One has soooo much disposable income, they have an RM on their wrist and a Pagani in the garage.

I think Richard Mille is a watch only Helen Keller could love.

Until she got her hands on one and "saw" how ugly they were. My opinion ofc.

Adrian is the Hublot watch influencers. Carefully crafted image and a thinly applied veil of quality material but is devoid of substantive content and inherent value.

I have unlimited internet but still find that effing time is a waste of that bandwidth. In fact, this post about effing time is a waste of bandwidth as is the reply I’m typing right now.

Fair point, double standard for sure. Only thing I would add is that the ones on the santos are way less pronounced than the ones on most hublots. I hadn’t really noticed on the santos But the Santos should, in my opinion, get some hate for that..

The movement in the RM is made in house and takes a very long time to make. They are very intricate and produce one of a kind movements. Hublot on the other hand were using a $150 ETA movements and were putting them in an expensive material shell. Now they claim to be making there own movements. Its the price of them that they are charging. High prices without good quality control. If I had the money I wouldn't buy either one. I don't think either one supports their value.

My bosses' boss somehow knew I was a watch guy. He popped into my office super stoked about his Hublot. "Pretty sweet" was what I could muster. He was itching for me to ask more about it. "Big Bang?" I asked, "Yes, it was 11k" ...

That is the Hublot guy.

I don't like the way they look.

I have looked at both Hublot and Richard Mille before. RM is worn a lot by celebrities and sport stars. They are over-hyped watches. As far as Hublot is concerned, I just don't like the look of many of their models.

If you want to check the latest they both have to offer, here you go:

https://www.hublot.com/en-us/homepage

https://www.richardmille.com/collections

I will give credit to RM, in that they are technically impressive. These are complicated timepieces that are incredible proof of concept. But, to me (my opinion), they are dog ass ugly.

Frankenstein's monster would have been a technological marvel too, but you wouldn't wear it on your wrist. It was fugly too.

But if you like RM (whoa, afford them), go for it. Live your best life. You wouldn't listen to the peasants anyway. Same for Hublot.

My only (and big) complaint about Hublot is they don’t align their screws. No complaints, other than cost about Richard Mille.

How tacky to talk about cost.

The time something similar happened to me, it involved a Sub and the line was he had been saving for it for a long time and now he was super excited to get it. Never mentioned price or cost or came across as trying to impress. Thinking back now, the Big R wasn’t a status symbol then but still respected and relatively expensive.

My biggest problem with Hublot is the eta movement that can be found in watches a third of the price. RM’s movements are insane, I still would never buy them however you still have to acknowledge the workmanship that went into their movements.

A guest on the Time&Tide podcast told the story of when he noticed the guy seated next to him on a flight was wearing a Sea Dweller, to strike up a conversation he points at the dudes watch and says "Nice Sea Dweller" The guy replies "No, it's a Rolex"

Not a single word was spoken between them the rest of the flight.

I dislike all the brands here. Invicta lacks quality and design. The other two are way too overpriced for what they offer. Check out zeroo time watches if you want Richard Mille effect.

It's a pity most of the people posting here have never even tried on an RM or visited an RM boutique to learn more about the brand, and what makes it special.

You do not have to be a serious client to visit their boutiques, and you will be treated better there walking in off the street, than you would at a Rolex dealer....Try it sometime.

This, their movements arent on the Ulysse level, but they’re priced up there.