Is Quartz movement shit ??

The release of the Seiko Astron on Christmas Day 1969 marked the beginning of the quartz revolution, changing the face of watchmaking forever. This first quartz wristwatch transformed timekeeping with its unprecedented accuracy and affordability, challenging the Swiss dominance of the watch industry and signaling a shift towards electronic watchmaking. The Astron's legacy is not just in its innovation but in its democratization of precise timekeeping.

Is Quartz movement shit ?? or is it a real revolution ?

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Shit no, its big shit

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*Snort*

Trust me, even the cheapest Skmei quartz are more accurate than the METAS certified automatics/mechanicals. Go to the higher priced HAQ and we get to ridiculous levels, like Citizen's Caliber 0100 with its +/-1 second per year.

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Shiiiiit

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It's different. Whether it's better or worse depends on what aspects of a watch movement you are prioritizing, and there are varying degrees of quality across mechanical and quartz movements. Asking if quartz is shit is like asking if cheeseburgers are shit. The answer says more about the person giving it than the subject of the question.

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You haven't said WHICH quartz movement.

But generally speaking, no, they're amazing. Either they're acceptable and cost peanuts, or they're expensive and they're the the best thing for timekeeping besides atomic clocks.

It's just that the cheap ones aren't attractive, that's all.

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Where comes that opinion from? It sounds like something a YouTube subperson would say.

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Quartz was a significant part of horology but IMO has been superseded by mobile phone and smart watch technology. We don't need watches to be accurate now because they will never match another easy way of telling the time. This has diminished their dominance and made them less appealing to some people.

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That an interesting subject ! I do think as many of you that quartz is a real revolution in term of giving opportunity to lot of people a watch with an incredible precision and that's the main subject

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Quartz is great. Accurate, inexpensive, resistant, low maintenance, extra thin. Only pros.

No, quartz isn't shit. They are more accurate and durable than mechanical. Right now, the trend is for the mechanical movement watch.

Imagine if you will for a moment, imagine if the quartz didn't become popular and became discontinued for some reason. These quartz Seiko's would be more valuable and desirable that a Rolex. Experts would praise the movements accuracy and plead watch makers to make quartz once more.

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Quartz marked an evolution in watch making. I have several watches with quartz and hybrid movements. They’re fantastic. Personal choice if you want to be a mechanical only enthusiast but I would never call quartz shit.

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Not shit at all, but it depends on what you are looking at. If it is about accuracy, a $10 quartz watch is probably better than an expensive mechanical, if it's beautify and magic of a mechanical watch movement and all the moving parts and what it takes to build one, there is no comparison and makes collecting them more magical.

I collect both because I collect non-luxury watches and if I like the look of the watch and it calls out to me that's all it takes.

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Quartz watch is cheaper to make, so manufacturers can take more risks with the designs. Many fun and weird watches would not exist without Quartz.

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CliveBarker1967

Quartz was a significant part of horology but IMO has been superseded by mobile phone and smart watch technology. We don't need watches to be accurate now because they will never match another easy way of telling the time. This has diminished their dominance and made them less appealing to some people.

"We don't need watches to be accurate now because they will never match another easy way of telling the time."

Yes they will, and it's called Bluetooth connectivity!!

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skyblue

"We don't need watches to be accurate now because they will never match another easy way of telling the time."

Yes they will, and it's called Bluetooth connectivity!!

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Don't think that's matching just copying and regurgitating. You can check any watch against your phone and update at hourly intervals.

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A watch enthusiast who dislikes quartz watches to the point they’re willing to publicly put down anyone who likes them is by no means worthy of being a watch enthusiast. Everyone worth their salt knows there are plenty of redeeming qualities behind quartz, and plenty of quartz movements carrying insane functions or even little embellishments like a sweeping seconds hand. People out here really buy $10k watches that won’t survive a drop onto tile flooring and cope stating quartz watches have no soul despite being tenfold more durable, precise and usable on a daily basis.

Yay for quartz, but I’m not a huge fan of the more basic cheaply made analog movements. I expect my analog quartz watches to be robustly made with a perfectly still (and aligned) beat or a sweeping seconds hand like in the case of a Spring Drive (kinetic quartz hybrid) or a Precisionist. Heck, even the VH31 is a solid choice and I still don’t get why Seiko doesn’t use it as standard in their quartz/midsize offerings.

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Quartz timekeeping is an amazing feat of engineering that not only is more accurate and less maintenance than mechanical movement, but it's been commoditised and can be super cost effective. It's quite an achievement.

That being said there are of course varying levels of quality within quartz movements. There are shit quartz movements and there are extremely high quality quartz movements.

Putting it all in one category as "shit" is pretty shit.

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CliveBarker1967

Don't think that's matching just copying and regurgitating. You can check any watch against your phone and update at hourly intervals.

The radio synced quartz watch predates the smartwatch by two decades. The timekeeping element of the smartwatch isn't particularly revolutionary. They mostly use MEMS resonators these days instead of crystal oscillators, but the principle is the same.

I bet we'll start seeing MEMS in digital watches soon due to the packaging advantages. Gimme a thin G-Shock already!

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DukeMo

The radio synced quartz watch predates the smartwatch by two decades. The timekeeping element of the smartwatch isn't particularly revolutionary. They mostly use MEMS resonators these days instead of crystal oscillators, but the principle is the same.

I bet we'll start seeing MEMS in digital watches soon due to the packaging advantages. Gimme a thin G-Shock already!

Love my G-Shock 👍

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I truly admire mechanical watches, especially automatics, for their craftsmanship and the smooth motion of the second hand. I also value quartz watches for their reliability. Each watch in my collection has its own story and style. Automatics and quartz watches both play important roles in my collection, reflecting my passion for watches.

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I don’t get that question.

It’s with Quartz like with everything else: If you get the cheapest shite, you will be disappointed. Get a 9F (for example) and you wouldn’t even ask that question (or not in that way, anyways).

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No, they just got it half right with the first quartz movement. Once Seiko perfected it with the Spring Drive movement, all is well with the world 😂

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CliveBarker1967

Quartz was a significant part of horology but IMO has been superseded by mobile phone and smart watch technology. We don't need watches to be accurate now because they will never match another easy way of telling the time. This has diminished their dominance and made them less appealing to some people.

Quartz in smartwatches is definitely shit. Few days of not synchronizing and you are in minutes.

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I was looking at my new Alba Epsilon titanium quartz last night thinking, damn this watch is really freaking cool.

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the quartz vs mechanical debate will go on (and on, and on) as long as there are watch enthusiasts ... and while I enjoy a good debate, this is one I refuse to participate in ... not much different than Fender vs Gibson, Toyota vs Honda (or Ford vs Chevy), blondes vs redheads, pullovers vs button-ups, boots vs shoes ... you get the drift LOL!

In such debates, there is no point when each side has not only their virtues, but also their detriments ...

It all comes down to personal preference. Enlightened, open-mined, non-snobs can generally appreciate both sides!

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It’s definitely THE shit if done right in a right watch. Look at vintage Seiko quartz divers for example.

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Just to point out that the Seiko Astron certainly wasn't affordable, it cost more than a car!

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Warrior75

Just to point out that the Seiko Astron certainly wasn't affordable, it cost more than a car!

That's Right !

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Quartz is the advancement the Swiss watch industry had to retroactively and hypocritically shit on in order to survive. It's important to remember that the Swiss were racing to develop and release quartz movements concurrently with Seiko (who beat them to market, ironically in the same year they won the race to release the first automatic chronograph), and Rolex, Omega, and other luxury brands emphatically hyped their own Quartz models as the future and pinnacle of timekeeping until the playing field was so leveled that they could no longer compete on price with only brand equity as a value proposition (Cartier being the exception that proves the rule). Seiko and Citizen have continued to refine and develop Quartz technology to further eliminate the lingering deficits—battery replacement, serviceability, lifespan, and even movement decoration—while the Rolex and Omega are in a competition to charge as much money as possible for the slightest gains in accuracy that are only impressive in the vacuum of mid-20th-century watchmaking. It's a collective delusion we participate in and more evidence that humans are rarely rational beings ;)

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It's the "shiznit"!! 9f quartz baby!!

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