Which silver dress watch?

Ok, so I said I wouldn't do this cuz I'm decisive and know what I want and I like to research if i don't know and isn't all just a matter of personal taste, really? But, here I am with a "which watch should I choose?" poll, anyway! Looking for a silver face dress watch - I wear suits every day and the rest are black and one cream Bambino. Love Hamilton and, other than the Khaki line, the Jazzmaster Viewmatic is my favorite. So that was always next on my list. Specifically, the 40mm ref. #H32515155. I love the guilloche pattern on the dial and really prefer Arabic numeral to stick indicies. Until I saw the Tissot Ballade (ref #T108.408.11.037.00) and read the specs. Like the Jazzmaster, it has an 80 hour power reserve movement based on a tweaked ETA 2824-2 (C07.111), both are about the same diameter (the Hamilton at 40mm while the Tissot is 39mm), both have similar bracelets and look good in leather croc-style straps. Both have a nice guilloche pattern. I prefer the Arabic numerals on the Hamilton, but the Tissot's are okay. But a few big differences that may give the Ballade an advantage - the Tissot is $150 cheaper (and I love finding a good deal) and is a COSC-certified chronometer with a silicone balance spring. (Bonus: the Tissot comes in at a trim 9.8mm versus the chunkier 13mm Hamilton.) So, is the Tissot's movement that much better than Hamilton's or are they about the same, despite the COSC certification? Is the Tissot a much better deal or are they about the same difference? Love to hear from folks that have experience with either.
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I share your enthusiasm for Arabic numerals, so for me, the Hamilton gets a big plus on that score. Those numbers are just better than the Tissot. And for a dress watch, I guess (again, this is just me) the movement certification isn't that important. I would certainly have confidence that the Hamilton will keep plenty good time, right? A matter of a few seconds a day wouldn't matter to me at all. You may be different. The one advantage for the Tissot is its slimness, though. That might matter once you get them on your wrist. Can you get to a dealer to try them both on? You might find your decision made for you by how one feels... But I vote Hamilton.

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I'd take the Tissot, thin, and less expensive is always nice.

If you don't mind spending less, check out the Timex Marlin hand wound. Silver dial, acrylic crystal, near 1 for 1 reproduction of a 60's watch.

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I’d go with the Hamilton. But I’m partial to it since I have my own Jazzmaster.

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Watch_This

I’d go with the Hamilton. But I’m partial to it since I have my own Jazzmaster.

I like the blue hands

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JJMM1983

I like the blue hands

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Thicker, with a mineral crystal?

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JJMM1983

I like the blue hands

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I really like that too. I’ve actually considered that for myself in the past.

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KristianG

Thicker, with a mineral crystal?

True. This one is also under 500 sapphire crystal

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JJMM1983

I like the blue hands

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Seiko's Cocktail Time is great, but probably would go for the other colored dials in that line. I prefer ones with Arabic numerals. The Cocktails and Grand Seikos pull it off well, but really tired of stick indicies.

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For about half the cost and with Sellita 28800 vph movements as opposed to the Powermatics and their plastic parts, might I suggest some options from Glycine?

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https://www.ashford.com/glycine-gl0428.html

https://www.ashford.com/glycine-gl0453.html

https://www.ashford.com/glycine-gl0460.html

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JBird7986

For about half the cost and with Sellita 28800 vph movements as opposed to the Powermatics and their plastic parts, might I suggest some options from Glycine?

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https://www.ashford.com/glycine-gl0428.html

https://www.ashford.com/glycine-gl0453.html

https://www.ashford.com/glycine-gl0460.html

I have 2 Combat Subs already, and love 'em, but hadn't noticed or considered their dress watches. Thanks!

So you believe the Selittas are better than both Hamilton and Tissot's extended ETAs, or just ths Powermatic? I have a Hamilton Khaki Field and, though I'm new to this and haven't measured them, feel that movement is a bit more accurate than the SW200s in the Subs.

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Certina. Better made vs the two presented.

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I voted other - a Seiko like the one @JJMM1983 suggested would get my vote. That or something like a Longines Flagship though it’s a bit more than the watches you’re looking at.

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I selected the Hamilton because you can never go wrong with a Hamilton.

Another nice alternative, depending on your wrist size and style preference is the Frederique Constant Slim Seconds...

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Shanigan

I have 2 Combat Subs already, and love 'em, but hadn't noticed or considered their dress watches. Thanks!

So you believe the Selittas are better than both Hamilton and Tissot's extended ETAs, or just ths Powermatic? I have a Hamilton Khaki Field and, though I'm new to this and haven't measured them, feel that movement is a bit more accurate than the SW200s in the Subs.

I don’t like the Powermatic movement because it uses plastic parts which will degrade and become brittle over time, can’t be easily regulated by a watchmaker meaning that one good knock can destroy the timekeeping and require replacement of the movement, and has a slower beat rate than the Sellita. All of those trade offs aren’t worth it to me.

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JBird7986

I don’t like the Powermatic movement because it uses plastic parts which will degrade and become brittle over time, can’t be easily regulated by a watchmaker meaning that one good knock can destroy the timekeeping and require replacement of the movement, and has a slower beat rate than the Sellita. All of those trade offs aren’t worth it to me.

Thanks - does Hamilton do the same as Tissot when they modify the ETA to extend the power reserve? Is their movement better quality or about the same?

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Shanigan

Thanks - does Hamilton do the same as Tissot when they modify the ETA to extend the power reserve? Is their movement better quality or about the same?

It’s the same…Tissot and Hamilton are both part of the Swatch Group, along with Certina, Mido, Longines, Omega and Breguet.

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The Hamilton has lume. Thats good enough for me.

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Tony14

I voted other - a Seiko like the one @JJMM1983 suggested would get my vote. That or something like a Longines Flagship though it’s a bit more than the watches you’re looking at.

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Thanks for the Longines suggestion - looking for Arabic numerals rather than Roman (already have a similar Bambino), but you sent me into a budget-busting lust for their Master Collection 😮 Anyone want to talk me out of this one before my wife finds out?

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Perhaps a Frederique Constant? Or, something left field, like this Farasute?

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If you want to get into microbrands, I heartily recommend the Hesili Original Series One.

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vintage vintage vintage

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Shanigan

Thanks - does Hamilton do the same as Tissot when they modify the ETA to extend the power reserve? Is their movement better quality or about the same?

It is not quite the same. While they both are based on the ETA 2824-2 with the beat rate reduced to extend run-time, the Tissot Powematic80 in this watch is the C07.111c which has a synthetic escapement and is COSC certified and the Hamilton H10 is the C07.611 which has a metal escapement and is not COSC.

Better is subjective here. The 111 should be more accurate (although every C07 variant I've ever met was at or close to COSC anyways) and less prone to magnetization than the 611 (but not so much as the silicium hairspring 811 variant) but the all metal 611 may be more rugged than the partially synthetic 111.

That said, I've got an 8 or so year-old C07.111c in a Certina DS1 which was serviced and regulated last year (at my watchmakers standard rate of ~$180 amd without any issue whatsoever) and he said the 'plastic' parts looked completely unworn and were perfectly fit to be put back into the movement when he put it back together.

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As an owner of that Tissot Ballade, it’s an absolute stunner. Was a gift from my wife so it means even more to me. She got it new from Joma for less than three hundred on a leather strap. Strap was junk but wears most leather straps with ease.

Mine gains about half a second a day. Can’t complain about any aspect of it!

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Try the max bill 34mm hand wind!

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This is a tough one and I have 2 Tissots and one Hamilton. The Hamilton feels better and I don’t like the bezel on the one pictured too much. Oh ya take a look at Wise Timepieces.

https://wisetimepiece.com