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You come to WC for informed debate and thanks?
You’d be better off screaming at traffic.
If you think this is bad, I’ve flagged a few things to the WC team, and I’ve been ignored (bots, spam, AI, misinformation… you know, all the things good quality control would be able to address). I’m also still waiting for my merch from last years 1wc… this is a ship without a captain, and we are a ghost crew.
Depending on the contract, it’s not clear cut. Whatever company I work for owns most of my design stuff (spreadsheets included), which is fine, I’m not a software designer, and the maths is universal so I cannot claim ownership of that. You pay me for my experience. Czapek could own a portion, by some technicality, and maybe they don’t care? It’s a perfectly reasonable question. Again, I would be pissed if one of my designers was working on a cheaper integrated steel sports watch that had some passing resemblance to mine that he developed. Legal or not, it’s a bit close to the bone. They look relatively similar (they are not identical, no one said that). You used the word inspiration… yes, from the same designer… hence, the question, again, what do Czapek think about this?
Genta has a style - it’s clear, and it carries through, plus they are not identical. Despite similar briefs, the Royal Oak looks different to the Nautilus, which looks different to the Ingenieur. Guess that means some designers are just better than others, especially in the case of Genta because his tropes just get regurgitated (and it’s a lazy stereotype, it pisses me off). You want to compare this scenario to Genta’s output over the years? Your multiple legendary models, two watch companies, and a Bvlgari purchasing it all too short.
One of those who came up with the concept (again, note the plural)
rocks up at CW and makes a very similar looking watch. Cheaper, but similar. It’s not $26k similar, but it’s a definitely $2k homage similar… hence the perfectly reasonable question, what do Czapek think about this?
I’d be a little pissed. In my field I, and a couple of other colleagues, have seen our spreadsheets propagate into the wild, and it’s annoying when you cannot do anything about it. Mine, which pisses me off, are bespoke to problems that are very unique to certain projects. The maths is pretty simple, but the concept isn’t, and there is a style, but it’s fine… I don’t like it, and people who ask me get that as an answer: I don’t like it, I’m flattered they think it’s the answer to the problem, no I haven’t seen the bottle of whiskey I’m owed by those who have adopted them…
It’s not even Royal Oak to Nautilus to Ingeniuer “follow the style”, it’s round watch on integrated bracelet with a colourful dial and a skeleton option to round watch on integrated bracelet with a colourful dial and skeleton option similar.
Not quite - Genta was working with everyone, and his designs are his designs, with a decent track record already when his multiple, similar, integrated steel sports watches hit the market. His briefs would often be “make me something like the Royal Oak, integrated and steel”. There are subtle differences between most of his famous models. The Twelve and the Antarctique however… hmm… bit more suss.
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