Seiko also wants to make profit as well… can we just add that.
I think this thread is basically a lament to when watches cost less (albeit relative). I agree that arguing for a Rolex as a tool watch might be a non-starter now, but I’d argue that the Seiko GMT is not a “tool” either. Watches are fashion, if anything, post 1980s, this is how the industry has positioned itself in order to generate revenue: desire over functionality… we just have to live with it.
Seiko is not the new Rolex... let’s not go down this rabbit hole.
Irony also that Tudor being budget Rolex, but are still a luxury item now in their own right.
I also don’t think watches are really something to capture that spirit of adventure either, that would be the adventure itself. I’ve been around… what was on my wrist didn’t enhance or detract from the journey or the experience.
They have gone up in price, I paid £60 a couple of years back, I think they are nearer £90 now. The Militado watches already mentioned probably do it better in terms of G10 and A11 looks, but I think the Cooper is quite nice and has its own little play on the theme. I’ve enjoyed wearing it, and I have a ‘91 issued CWC G10.
Saying that, Thorn have this A11-2 piece which I am quite drawn to…
And not quite a field, but they have a Canteen Diver which is quite cool…
If I’m being honest, one of the most surprising “homages” out there is the Seestern “Mark XX”. This thing slaps. It’s a pilot more than a field, but f**k me it looks and wears good. I nearly bought a green Mark XX last year, and other than the logo missing, and a couple of small details, this thing is bang on. It’s dirty, but sometimes, you just want to get dirty…
It’s not genuine. I’ve gone into this is in depth on the platform, but hey… It will have a mechanical movement of some description, usually a Citizen (Para Shock system), which is fine, but if you want the real deal then I would leave it. I bought a Fortis with the playing cards for £10 many years back out of curiosity, and it arrived, and also has an FHF (or as much of an FHF) movement.
The Oris watches like this, ironically, have better movements in the “specials” because they will be pallet-lever. Oris made a good pin-lever, yes, but pin-levers are finite and future landfill.
They all have a “vibe” as well - it’s uncanny valley.
The bottom line is this: If you see that font on “17 Jewels Shock Proof” then walk away… unless you really want it.
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