This is my BIGGEST pet peeve

Watch browsing/shopping on marketplaces…

Filter “unworn”. Ah huh, lovely, swipe, swipe, niiice, swipe what the IT’S BEING F*CK1NG WORN…

Sorry. But it just frustrates the hell out of me and I needed to get it off my chest.

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Playing devil's advocate here. If a watch is tried on 30 times at an AD would you consider that worn?

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CaptainCrunch

Playing devil's advocate here. If a watch is tried on 30 times at an AD would you consider that worn?

Yes. I don’t want anyone else’s arm pubes and greasy paws on anything I’m buying.

I’d accept worn once at the AD for sizing etc. Other than that nope.

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CaptainCrunch

Playing devil's advocate here. If a watch is tried on 30 times at an AD would you consider that worn?

Yes, a watch that is worn in the store by customers trying it on isn't really new. It should be classified as a demo or display model. I would expect a discount on a demo the same as I would a piece of stereo demo gear.

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Not sure I agree. I have tried on watches a few times at one AD and purchased at another AD due to a better offer.

I also have try on watches at airport duty free ADs and not purchased them.

I would not consider them demos.

I can’t be the only one.

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Rolexshmolex

Yes. I don’t want anyone else’s arm pubes and greasy paws on anything I’m buying.

I’d accept worn once at the AD for sizing etc. Other than that nope.

You do realise putting it on is part of the QC process.

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CaptainCrunch

Not sure I agree. I have tried on watches a few times at one AD and purchased at another AD due to a better offer.

I also have try on watches at airport duty free ADs and not purchased them.

I would not consider them demos.

I can’t be the only one.

The AD can have multiple people try a watch on but they should have new stock (or order new) when it comes time for me to buy. When there is a model change they should be selling that demo or display model at a discount. If other want to pay full price that's their business but it isn't going to be me.

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The magic thing is:

Literally EVERY second hand watch on ANY online plattform is NEVER worn or promissing by the name of their grandmother that they were worn MAXIMUM three times for only 1.574 seconds each in total.

Looking closer on the pictures (as long they don't offer protected and licenced pictures from the official websites), they look like if they tied the watch on a rope and dragged it over the australian outback in Mad Max style.

But ..."promisse, only worn 2 times...may my Hamster get an heart attack if I lie... actually...no...I didn't worn it ...forget what I said...I even never looked at it..."

Yea.... that's when you try to buy online used watches from private mates.

Rocking the s... t out of their watches and hoping to find an I...ot who pays even more to them than it costs . I even saw proper watches with chunks of steel pieces beating out of the cases...but they think they are fair enough to offer it 20% less tgan MRSP, but the price of the new improved model line, not the old one he's offering...and after a price rising of 20%.

Although the watches are offered by retailers for even less.

Do I sound angry? Maybe.

That's why I never bought a used watch.

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I don't dig another person's DNA on my watch. I have only 1 used watch . I thoroughly cleaned before wearing

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I have a few watches that are unworn, and i mean never even have been placed on a sleave of a shirt to see what it was like. I am with the person who started this discussion. I thought i was the only one. Looking at ads on the computer and it says unworn and the picture is the watch on some ones arm. Like a proof set made with coins from the bank. Or a car from the dealer, that was used for test drives. Or my girlfriend who says no but means maybe. I stand by my statement. The watches i say are unworn are truly unworn, But i don't intend to sell them either. Duane black Diamond, WA. 98010

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As it is a CONDITION probably clearer to state “As New” instead of “Unworn”. If you love a specific watch or model that has discontinued then second hand is the only option. Obviously a good clean or disinfectant is in order. Personally a bronze watch looks better second hand with patina and a few war wounds.

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I'm here to comment that the wrist on the photo is wearing it wrong 😄

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I just assume that all “unworn” watches - basically anything without factory stickers - has been worn.

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Unworn…riiiiggghht… on another note, in the picture the crown is unscrewed. RED FLAG!

You should see what the dealership tech did with your car before you bought it 😂 all PDI vehicles come back smelling like burning rubber

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I wish I could get that excited about it. Of course, I’m not likely to spend five figures on a wristwatch. It would be a thrill to be the first person outside of the factory to wear a fabulous bit of horological artwork, but I’m pretty sure it’d be a deal killer.

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I thought having hands all over the watch assembling and casing it and servicing it was a positive! But it’s a negative to have hands touching the hand-made watch? Man what a hobby! 🤣🤣

I swear you all simultaneously want your cake made by oily hands of artisans, but also it assembled and boxed by robots only in an irradiated sterile clean room.

At least I know my quartz crystals and silicon are all made in a clean room 😆

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Meglos

Yes, a watch that is worn in the store by customers trying it on isn't really new. It should be classified as a demo or display model. I would expect a discount on a demo the same as I would a piece of stereo demo gear.

Don't forget shop employees playing catch with them 🙄🤣😂

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Sometimes there are no other options than to buy used, but I have no problem with them, half my watches are used.

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I just bought a mid 4 figure watch online. Condition "new and unworn and bla bla." Didn't expect them to give me a factory new watch for 1,8k under MSRP, so obviously I expected it to be a display model that people try on it the store. However, mine came with no stickers and very light marks around the crown.

The first time I asked for a partial refund. (Bought on chrono24, so their mediation got me a solution within 2 hours.)

Have also tried on watches at the ADs, which were probably still sold for MSRP.

So yeah, "new and unworn" to me only means has never had an owner and has never left the shop. What they do inside the shop, we'll never know.

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In theory the cushion in the watch box is wearing your watch before you. You will just have to learn to share.

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CaptainCrunch

Playing devil's advocate here. If a watch is tried on 30 times at an AD would you consider that worn?

At a Rolex AD the watches are all wrapped in plastic.

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CaptainCrunch

Playing devil's advocate here. If a watch is tried on 30 times at an AD would you consider that worn?

Absolutely, unworn means UNWORN 🟢🤷‍♂ 🙂

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It depends on what you consider "wearing" a watch. I don't think you are wearing it unless it is sized to your wrist and the buckle is closed. That is where I draw the line. You draw it elsewhere and that's okay.

There is, to the best of my knowledge, no universally agreed upon definition of what constitutes "wearing a watch". You may disagree that there isn't because you think you are right, but at the end of the day your opinion is just as irrelevant as mine. What matters is the market's opinion (=price) which doesn't demand a discount for watches that are being photographed on a wrist.

In short, you're gonna have to get over it because you're the minority and to most people seeing these watches in the "unworn" filter is a feature, not a bug.

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You're assuming that he meant worn on his wrist 😅

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TheHoroSexual

I agree that you should get a discount on a model sitting in the case at an AD - I always have. However, I don’t agree with your other comment in all circumstances.

The AD can have multiple people try a watch on but they should have new stock (or order new) when it comes time for me to buy.

The problem arises when you reach a certain price point and are buying watches from certain haute horlogerie maisons. Not all watches are inexpensive and made by the thousands, where economies of scale make it cheap to keep a demo model in stock for people to try on. I don’t see the likes of Breguet, Blancpain, JLC, Girard-Perregaux, Zenith, IWC, Glashütte Original, and many other smaller brands being able to keep one of each model at a retail partner’s shop for customers to only try on. Part of these brands’ selling tactics is allowing the customer to walk out of the store that day with the watch on their wrist, compared to waiting for a call from Rolex, Patek, or AP. Not to mention all the money that would be tied up with the most expensive, big-complication, precious-metal pieces just sitting there, not getting sold. When I think about it, Breguet’s watches are individually numbered and they only go up to four digits. And most AD’s wrap the precious metal watches with plastic to avoid any scratches to the gold or platinum. I always take a loupe out and inspect the watch before purchase to make sure it’s good. I don’t understand why you can’t do that and if it’s not acceptable then you just have them order you a new one and you have negotiational leverage since the piece in front of you was “damaged”.

The reason Rolex can keep exhibition models in the display case because they make more than a million watches a year and they are usually one of the top revenue sources for individual ADs. I wouldn’t think these smaller brands could afford to keep so many high priced watches in display cases for years at a time. Those are my thoughts.

Some valid points here but currently, I max out at Omega and don't play above that level. At that level and below I expect them to either keep stock or order new. Above that level with brands with very limited production as you mentioned it isn't realistic and out of the case but perfect condition would be acceptable.

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CaptainCrunch

Playing devil's advocate here. If a watch is tried on 30 times at an AD would you consider that worn?

Yes though the AD always pulls out new stock that is unworn.

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I dont really care - for me it comes down to the precise wording of "condition" vs "history".

If there are no indicators on the watch that its ever been worn then its "condition" is unworn even if its 'history' means it has been on wrist.

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The post-truth era in all his spendor. The line between reality and words is fluid and subjective.

I wonder what came after...

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Gary from I like watches has listed quite a few

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeIJziOaCII