Watch Temptations โ€“ or: A Watch to Scratch an Itch

I don't know if you've heard of the "Marshmallow Test", but I am currently kinda struggling with the watch equivalent: whether to get at cheap, quick fix now, or to wait until I can justify getting the watch I really have my sights set on.

A vintage Omega Seamaster, from the 1960s or there around, is currently my #1 grail watch. Not very original, I know, but I love them. They're not super expensive โ€“ decent ones often go for around $1000 โ€“ but right now that is not an expense I can justify. So instead I have spent the past few weeks salivating over hundreds of cheaper vintage dress watches on auction sites, often available for a fraction of what an Omega costs. Vintage pieces from Tissot, Certina, Alpina, Zenith, Atlant, etc. So tempting. Just a few clicks away...

But I hold off, despite how frustrating the temptation is. Because they're not the watch I really want, and thus would probably not satisfy me, at least not fully. I've already made a similar mistake twice, buying two cheap "homages" from AliExpress. A few hundred here and a few hundred there soon goes a long way towards getting the real deal.

Well, we'll see. I may give in yet. Just a little watch...

I know I'm not alone. We probably all struggle with these temptations. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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I struggle all the time with this.

I looked at what I spent last year on 20 watches (yeah, i know) and I could have had a mid century Seamaster with what I spent.

So now I just remember that every time I want to buy a watch.

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Grab an inexpensive vintage Hamilton and enjoy.

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I love the Mischel reference. The question is, will that figure always be a concern? If you were to save that, what will the impact be? If any impact, there are a ton of great watches for less and best skipped. No purchase of a luxury good, or any non essential product, should cause stress.

Perhaps eat the marshmallow now, and when you are in a better position, sell it for a small loss for the whole bag of them.

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UnholiestJedi

I struggle all the time with this.

I looked at what I spent last year on 20 watches (yeah, i know) and I could have had a mid century Seamaster with what I spent.

So now I just remember that every time I want to buy a watch.

Wow, that's a lot of watches! Yeah, it really is the eternal struggle: delayed gratification.

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Davemcc

Grab an inexpensive vintage Hamilton and enjoy.

I understand the sentiment. A little watch fun now is tempting. But, alas...

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AllTheWatches

I love the Mischel reference. The question is, will that figure always be a concern? If you were to save that, what will the impact be? If any impact, there are a ton of great watches for less and best skipped. No purchase of a luxury good, or any non essential product, should cause stress.

Perhaps eat the marshmallow now, and when you are in a better position, sell it for a small loss for the whole bag of them.

I see many decent cheaper pieces go for perhaps 2-300 dollars, so the purchase of the grail would probably not be delayed more than a month or two. But still, time is time, and feeling that I am putting stress on my budget also puts stress on me. ๐Ÿค” On the other hand, if I buy a cheap watch and it indeed dampens the main urge for a long time, then that would be very nice. But that is a big if.

Much to think about.

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I don't think there is a substitute for watches from what I call Omega's good period. They are truly special. This gives you the real collector of seeking something particular in the best condition for a tolerable price (in that order).

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Iโ€™m so deep into marshmallows at this point I could eat sโ€™mores every night for the next century. Luckily, I have no more high-end grails dangling like some kind of carrot of Damocles, limiting my enjoyment of the late night, cheap, impulse buys that have long ago filled every slot in my many watch boxes, yet still accumulate with every trip to my porch by the weary mailmen, UPS, FedEx, and DHL drivers who all know me by name andโ€ฆ oh, gotta take a phone call, itโ€™s the producers of Hoarders calling again.

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Ohh I know both feeling very well. And letโ€™s just say I wasnโ€™t very good at holding out in the beginning of my journey. But know I have came to a full stop and enjoying my 30+ watches before cutting down and buying a lot less frequently

Good luck ๐Ÿคญ

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Empty calorie collection only works if you are me and you just want to try / use a variety of cheap quartz timers and also have a few bits of color and shine for variety. For most the most vocal people on this site, even for people into smarter or fancier or antique Casios, I would say save up and get something nice, but not get something nice and save because thats not how wish fulfillment works.

For some here, I imagine a moonswatch or a pagani or biden or a bargain swiss brand brings great fulfillment, but personally, I am not convinced that this works on most people.

I have this opinion despite many hours of watching enthusiastic pitches on youtube. For me, those brands best sellers are merely imitations of items that valuable specifically for their unique craftsmanship, or even better, as fine jewelry. A fine homage has value of its own, something I believe can be sensed, and... I personally don't sense that many places.

You have to be you. So be the best you and wait until it means something, then buy a banger.

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Couple of hundred on eBay depending on current market conditions and individual auction results.

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Iโ€™ve found that the best way to scratch the itch without dipping too much into the pot is to purchase a new watch band. Needless to say, Iโ€™ve purchased many straps in the past 9 months, ๐Ÿ˜‚

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gbelleh

Iโ€™m so deep into marshmallows at this point I could eat sโ€™mores every night for the next century. Luckily, I have no more high-end grails dangling like some kind of carrot of Damocles, limiting my enjoyment of the late night, cheap, impulse buys that have long ago filled every slot in my many watch boxes, yet still accumulate with every trip to my porch by the weary mailmen, UPS, FedEx, and DHL drivers who all know me by name andโ€ฆ oh, gotta take a phone call, itโ€™s the producers of Hoarders calling again.

Haha, "carrot of Damocles" - I love it! Sounds nice to have the high end grails taken care of.

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casio_tonneau

Empty calorie collection only works if you are me and you just want to try / use a variety of cheap quartz timers and also have a few bits of color and shine for variety. For most the most vocal people on this site, even for people into smarter or fancier or antique Casios, I would say save up and get something nice, but not get something nice and save because thats not how wish fulfillment works.

For some here, I imagine a moonswatch or a pagani or biden or a bargain swiss brand brings great fulfillment, but personally, I am not convinced that this works on most people.

I have this opinion despite many hours of watching enthusiastic pitches on youtube. For me, those brands best sellers are merely imitations of items that valuable specifically for their unique craftsmanship, or even better, as fine jewelry. A fine homage has value of its own, something I believe can be sensed, and... I personally don't sense that many places.

You have to be you. So be the best you and wait until it means something, then buy a banger.

So true, everyone is different, and everyone's goals and priorities are different. And those goals and priorities are likely to change over time.

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Davemcc

Grab an inexpensive vintage Hamilton and enjoy.

Why though? They're fine, but it's not what he wants?

I say go for it if you like it that much

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[read as James Mason in Poeโ€™s โ€œTell Tale Heartโ€] Thereโ€™s a tunnel vision that engulfs me that seems similar to your malady. Self denial is key. Be firm! I have had the vintage Omega kick that youโ€™re on now. I feel that I can speak with convictionโ€”It ended upon spending a lot of money on two (maybe just weeks apart). It was as blissful as youโ€™d thinkโ€”weโ€™re hooked on this feeling for a reason. Itโ€™s wonderful.

But it also fades.

The watches are with me. Lovely, classic and forever acquired. No more juice of the hunt. I no longer want any more vintage anythings. What if Iโ€™d never bought them and just let the cravings pass? Would I still want these watches? Is it even about the watches at all?

Oh, but that ship had sailed. Deeds and funds done. Happy to report that the hunger is sated. Itโ€™s two months since and Iโ€™ve not looked at a vintage watch with any pangs of falling in again. Itโ€™s a tepid consideration now. Dead. But itโ€™s also been quiet, just enough that the tell tale beating of a distant heartbeat can be heard. You can hear it? Itโ€™s not the stirrings of new cravings just beyond the sunset. Itโ€™s not.

I donโ€™t want to buy another watch. I donโ€™t.

But maybeโ€ฆa 39mm automatic chronograph. New and shiny. Two sub dials. You understand, donโ€™t you? I donโ€™t have to have another watch.

I donโ€™t.

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Deanseiko876

I know this feeling all too well and I think majority of collectors on the onset of their journey feel the exact same way.

The true question is, are you buying watches just to have them or are you buying watches that you researched and are 100% sure you're going to love and enjoy?

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I've set my eyes on a Cartier Santos dumont XL rose gold and that fetches a pretty penny. Since I've made up my mind that that's going to be my next expensive watch, I've bought a retro Movado and a Tissot PRX, both of which add up to about $2,300, that's 1/4 of the Cartier... So now, I have to save that money again and neither of which I'll be selling (I'm sure of it!)

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My honest opinion, it's very hard not to scratch the itch and if you can't hold out, at least get something that you're 100% sure that you can get some money back on. Just put a budget on what you might get and sell it when you're ready. Delayed gratification is much much more satisfying than scratching the itch though.

I love rose gold myself, and I can see that that rose gold Cartier Santos-Dumont XL is going to look amazing on you.

I agree, saving up for the grail would probably be the wisest choice. I'm not a dedicated collector and I have not done any deep research into precise editions or reference numbers; I just know what I like when I see it. Like in the case of my grail watch: a classic Seamaster with white sunburst dial and a date on the 3 o'clock, preferably manual wind. Gold or steel, but I am recently leaning towards gold.

I so far resist even thinking about what I might get back on a watch, mainly because I do not see watches (or cars or any other consumer products) as investments. If I buy something I consider that money spent and gone, replaced with a beautiful object. I think that is the safest and soundest way to look at it, so as not to delude myself into more easily wasting money without taking full responsibility for that purchase decision. I just sold a watch for the first time, my Seiko Presage SRPE19J1, and I was happy to get about 50% for it. I was prepared to get nothing.

Anyway, hope to see that rose gold Cartier on you in due time!

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gbelleh

Yeah, after buying a couple grail watches I found that I get just about as much enjoyment from my $200 Seikos. Donโ€™t get me wrong, expensive watches are very nice, but I prefer variety and the freedom to impulse buy. Diminishing returns hit pretty fast and hard.

Sounds great and wise! And wonderfully relaxed and hype-free.

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Absolutely, a bit of time between the flirt and the purchase decision should lower the risk of eventual disappointment.

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asmodeuscurl

[read as James Mason in Poeโ€™s โ€œTell Tale Heartโ€] Thereโ€™s a tunnel vision that engulfs me that seems similar to your malady. Self denial is key. Be firm! I have had the vintage Omega kick that youโ€™re on now. I feel that I can speak with convictionโ€”It ended upon spending a lot of money on two (maybe just weeks apart). It was as blissful as youโ€™d thinkโ€”weโ€™re hooked on this feeling for a reason. Itโ€™s wonderful.

But it also fades.

The watches are with me. Lovely, classic and forever acquired. No more juice of the hunt. I no longer want any more vintage anythings. What if Iโ€™d never bought them and just let the cravings pass? Would I still want these watches? Is it even about the watches at all?

Oh, but that ship had sailed. Deeds and funds done. Happy to report that the hunger is sated. Itโ€™s two months since and Iโ€™ve not looked at a vintage watch with any pangs of falling in again. Itโ€™s a tepid consideration now. Dead. But itโ€™s also been quiet, just enough that the tell tale beating of a distant heartbeat can be heard. You can hear it? Itโ€™s not the stirrings of new cravings just beyond the sunset. Itโ€™s not.

I donโ€™t want to buy another watch. I donโ€™t.

But maybeโ€ฆa 39mm automatic chronograph. New and shiny. Two sub dials. You understand, donโ€™t you? I donโ€™t have to have another watch.

I donโ€™t.

Beautifully written. I understand. Brain and heart, responsibility and desire, forever engaged in a friendly tug of war.

I love my vintage Breitling chronograph. It was a bit of an impulse buy (or, well, I restrained myself a few weeks) and it cost more than all my other watches combined, but it satisfied my desire for a vintage chronograph. I may well buy another vintage chronograph in the future, as I have a particular fondness for chronographs, but not anytime soon.

I say, enjoy the feeling of satisfaction. That means you can devote your desires and energy on other things โ€“ at least for now.

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Get the watch you really want ! โ€œAll good things comes to those who wait โ€œ or so Iโ€™m told ๐Ÿ˜‚.

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gbelleh

Iโ€™m so deep into marshmallows at this point I could eat sโ€™mores every night for the next century. Luckily, I have no more high-end grails dangling like some kind of carrot of Damocles, limiting my enjoyment of the late night, cheap, impulse buys that have long ago filled every slot in my many watch boxes, yet still accumulate with every trip to my porch by the weary mailmen, UPS, FedEx, and DHL drivers who all know me by name andโ€ฆ oh, gotta take a phone call, itโ€™s the producers of Hoarders calling again.

I like the sword has turned into a carrot :)

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Get a Tag

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I stopped buying โ€œstopgapโ€ watches. Save up for what you really want and enjoy what you already have. Less is more.

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There are many great vintage watches around and you mention one of my favourites, Certina. But a nice Omega, of your liking, is worth waiting for.

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YourIntruder

There are many great vintage watches around and you mention one of my favourites, Certina. But a nice Omega, of your liking, is worth waiting for.

Certina have sure produced some very nice designs. Very elegant.

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kanjidude

Certina have sure produced some very nice designs. Very elegant.

I love vintage Certinas. Have an Argonaut and am currently on the prowl for the right 1st generation DS.

But, I'm not going to buy a watch that reminds me of a DS because it's cheaper. Like Seamasters, there's really nothing quite like the DS. I'd stick to my guns.

Now, granted, the watches that are in the same class (IMO) as the DS - KonTikis, Antarctics, Sherpas, etc. - are rarely cheaper... but still.

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kanjidude

I love rose gold myself, and I can see that that rose gold Cartier Santos-Dumont XL is going to look amazing on you.

I agree, saving up for the grail would probably be the wisest choice. I'm not a dedicated collector and I have not done any deep research into precise editions or reference numbers; I just know what I like when I see it. Like in the case of my grail watch: a classic Seamaster with white sunburst dial and a date on the 3 o'clock, preferably manual wind. Gold or steel, but I am recently leaning towards gold.

I so far resist even thinking about what I might get back on a watch, mainly because I do not see watches (or cars or any other consumer products) as investments. If I buy something I consider that money spent and gone, replaced with a beautiful object. I think that is the safest and soundest way to look at it, so as not to delude myself into more easily wasting money without taking full responsibility for that purchase decision. I just sold a watch for the first time, my Seiko Presage SRPE19J1, and I was happy to get about 50% for it. I was prepared to get nothing.

Anyway, hope to see that rose gold Cartier on you in due time!

Take your time and enjoy the hunt! Read up on the myriad case references, movements, and materials. Then keep a sharp eye out for exactly the right one, and when it comes along youโ€™ll be glad you hadnโ€™t spent several hundred dollars on โ€œsubstitutesโ€ that will never fully scratch the Seamaster itch.

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DukeMo

I love vintage Certinas. Have an Argonaut and am currently on the prowl for the right 1st generation DS.

But, I'm not going to buy a watch that reminds me of a DS because it's cheaper. Like Seamasters, there's really nothing quite like the DS. I'd stick to my guns.

Now, granted, the watches that are in the same class (IMO) as the DS - KonTikis, Antarctics, Sherpas, etc. - are rarely cheaper... but still.

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Hope you find it soon! The only vintage DS I have seen IRL was this one I tried on recently.

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circleT

Take your time and enjoy the hunt! Read up on the myriad case references, movements, and materials. Then keep a sharp eye out for exactly the right one, and when it comes along youโ€™ll be glad you hadnโ€™t spent several hundred dollars on โ€œsubstitutesโ€ that will never fully scratch the Seamaster itch.

Thanks, I'll try to hold out! True, I probably should do more research.