Timex Reissue - Why Only 50m WR

Anyone else find it counterintuitive to release a cool looking sports watch with a diving bezel and only 50m WR? In fact just really Quite annoying? :) Q Timex Reissue 1971 Velocity, $179, quartz, 37mm x 42 mm
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That is a scam but it will probably be fine for swimming, many Casios only have 30m and they swim just fine

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My wealthy cousin regularly goes in the sea with his Speedmaster (50m w/r). Wouldn't myself, but he's had no issues.

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Inkitatus

My wealthy cousin regularly goes in the sea with his Speedmaster (50m w/r). Wouldn't myself, but he's had no issues.

Thanks for letting us know you cousin is wealthy (it really helps) 😊

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Timalishaman

Thanks for letting us know you cousin is wealthy (it really helps) 😊

Probably to highlight that he wouldn't be too bothered if he had to replace it @Inkitatus

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Timalishaman

That is a scam but it will probably be fine for swimming, many Casios only have 30m and they swim just fine

It may not be fair to compare Casio to other brands when it comes to wr rating, since Casio routinely over-spec their watches. A G-Shock specced for 200m can easily go double that: hydraulic pressure tests have shown it hitting 1k and it's usually the backplate that begins to collapse before water damage is even evident (to be fair, that level of performance may be specific to gshocks and not necessarily applicable to their other watches). Nonetheless when I was a kid I would go swimming with my casio watches all the time, and never had issues.

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grand.psycho

Probably to highlight that he wouldn't be too bothered if he had to replace it @Inkitatus

Doubt it, he's not the flashy type. I suspect it's more down to ignorance - he's not into watches & most likely got the Speedy because it's famous but pretty understated and not a Rolex.

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not the end of the world, but 50 meters is lazy.

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You need at least 300m on a watch with a dive bezel. What if it falls off your night stand into the mariana trench? 😁

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Yeah....quite annoying. 🙄

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You're missing the point here: It's a Timex Q Reissue. It has a user-replaceable battery behind that small cover. I suppose you can't go deeper than that with such a cover. I guess you can swim with it, just check the WR regularly and thoroughly.

Same with Swatch - they're 30 m. Marathon GP - it has a rubber cover! And it's a real military watch!

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Inkitatus

Doubt it, he's not the flashy type. I suspect it's more down to ignorance - he's not into watches & most likely got the Speedy because it's famous but pretty understated and not a Rolex.

Timalisha was making a dig at you saying he was rich 😬

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Should be fine for swimming - so it's fine, but yes this design should have 100m just to meet expectations and align with the style.

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50m WR is fine. It's not ISO rated for what its worth and 50m is about 47m more than 99% of the world needs.

Here's a pic, from a fellow WC member, of a F-91W well outside it's "depth" rating. i.e. - Casio states not suitable for diving, splash/rain resistant only.

The world did not, in point of fact end, and the watch is fine. 😂

If a watches seals and gaskets are good, then it's gonna keep the water out.

Dynamic pressure is an internet myth, perpetuated by internet talking heads, to justify "good" WR.

The only time dynamic pressure comes into play is if one is riding the front of a torpedo on a one way trip, or is Aquaman. First case is just a bad day, and ones limbs and soft tissues will have problems before the watch does. Second case is, well you're Aquaman and therefore a king, so no watch is needed, you arrive precisely when you mean to. 👀🤏🏻😜.

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Bizarrely low rating for a dive style, but I mean… I don’t thing the target market would be taking it lower than that anyway? I’m sure it can withstand a cannonball. Well, hopefully 😅

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I’ll wear my Tudor BB36 in the water, rinse it under the tap etc when something spills on it. Its rated to 150m.

My Christopher Ward is rated to 300m. I’ve never gone diving let alone to 300m.

Every summer as a kid, I’d jump into the sea with a plastic quartz watch rated to 5ATM on my wrist. Didn’t even know what a screw down crown was. None of them ever died. What killed them was usually falling off a skateboard and smashing the crystal!

I’m personally yet to see any benefit for being above the depth of a swimming pool. If it can take 30m then I trust it just as much as a deep sea diver.

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Well it’s a Timex reissue… Should be more but…Some early skin divers were rated for 50m…I’m sure there’s a $$$ reason for this. (I do love Timex btw)

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I think they do it so people can moan about it forums like this.

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It’s also not being sold specifically as a diver… look there’s race cars, and none of them are in the water.

I give up...

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Pretty sure this is more of a fashion watch than sports/dive watch. The battery hatch on the case back might be its weak point that keeps it from getting a higher rating. It is perfectly fine for the modern day professional #deskdiver.

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This is more of a racing model to me, rather than a diver model, so 50m wr doesn't strike me as too little for this model.

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Although nearly all dive watches employ an elapsed time bezel,all watches with an elapsed time bezel don't have to be divers.

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To be fair, pretty much 95% of all the people who are certified as sport divers and actually dive wearing an actual dive watch will never get below 50' of depth much less 50 meters. Heck, much of the desire to dive is based on being able to actually 'see' something and for that, the most desirable places to dive have the most clear waters where one can see nearly 50-100 feet down and don't necessarily dive down there (can't stay very long at depth anyhow).

Long winded way of trying to say that whether I wear my watch with 100M, 200M or 500M depth rating, it probably won't really matter.

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RFIMike

To be fair, pretty much 95% of all the people who are certified as sport divers and actually dive wearing an actual dive watch will never get below 50' of depth much less 50 meters. Heck, much of the desire to dive is based on being able to actually 'see' something and for that, the most desirable places to dive have the most clear waters where one can see nearly 50-100 feet down and don't necessarily dive down there (can't stay very long at depth anyhow).

Long winded way of trying to say that whether I wear my watch with 100M, 200M or 500M depth rating, it probably won't really matter.

I like sensible diving answers from divers; it’s a shame people don’t listen to them. BUT, general consensus is that you can’t wash your hands in 50m WR, so I guess we’re all washing our hands wrong, because you’ve got to get really wet.

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Porthole

I like sensible diving answers from divers; it’s a shame people don’t listen to them. BUT, general consensus is that you can’t wash your hands in 50m WR, so I guess we’re all washing our hands wrong, because you’ve got to get really wet.

Years ago, I carelessly took one of my old Seiko automatics into the dive pool on a training session, to a depth of 28' and breeched the crown gasket, flooding the case. I've since had the piece fully serviced and it serves me well to this day.

I am not afraid to take it, or any of my other watches into the shower or when washing my hands and have pretty good confidence that I am not causing any damage (yet).

When I kayak, swim, fish or actually go diving, I now use one of my dive watches with a screw down crown and have not a second thought about case breech.

This is my own personal experience and I am sure there are stories and mishaps, accidents and such which caused a case/crown/crystal to fail and flood the internals. I don't think I've just been lucky, or perhaps I am?

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RFIMike

Years ago, I carelessly took one of my old Seiko automatics into the dive pool on a training session, to a depth of 28' and breeched the crown gasket, flooding the case. I've since had the piece fully serviced and it serves me well to this day.

I am not afraid to take it, or any of my other watches into the shower or when washing my hands and have pretty good confidence that I am not causing any damage (yet).

When I kayak, swim, fish or actually go diving, I now use one of my dive watches with a screw down crown and have not a second thought about case breech.

This is my own personal experience and I am sure there are stories and mishaps, accidents and such which caused a case/crown/crystal to fail and flood the internals. I don't think I've just been lucky, or perhaps I am?

I’ve destroyed F91-w swimming. I destroyed a Swatch “diver” swimming. I’ve done some shallow diving in a Gulfmaster and a Luminox. I’d tend to use a dive computer over a watch now, it’s far more reliable, but I’ve not dived for a while. We live, we learn.

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CheapHangover

You're missing the point here: It's a Timex Q Reissue. It has a user-replaceable battery behind that small cover. I suppose you can't go deeper than that with such a cover. I guess you can swim with it, just check the WR regularly and thoroughly.

Same with Swatch - they're 30 m. Marathon GP - it has a rubber cover! And it's a real military watch!

No point missed, if it has a dive bezel, I want at least 100m WR.

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solidyetti

50m WR is fine. It's not ISO rated for what its worth and 50m is about 47m more than 99% of the world needs.

Here's a pic, from a fellow WC member, of a F-91W well outside it's "depth" rating. i.e. - Casio states not suitable for diving, splash/rain resistant only.

The world did not, in point of fact end, and the watch is fine. 😂

If a watches seals and gaskets are good, then it's gonna keep the water out.

Dynamic pressure is an internet myth, perpetuated by internet talking heads, to justify "good" WR.

The only time dynamic pressure comes into play is if one is riding the front of a torpedo on a one way trip, or is Aquaman. First case is just a bad day, and ones limbs and soft tissues will have problems before the watch does. Second case is, well you're Aquaman and therefore a king, so no watch is needed, you arrive precisely when you mean to. 👀🤏🏻😜.

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50m is not fine as 50m doesn't mean 50m. Either way it is lazy.

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solidyetti

50m WR is fine. It's not ISO rated for what its worth and 50m is about 47m more than 99% of the world needs.

Here's a pic, from a fellow WC member, of a F-91W well outside it's "depth" rating. i.e. - Casio states not suitable for diving, splash/rain resistant only.

The world did not, in point of fact end, and the watch is fine. 😂

If a watches seals and gaskets are good, then it's gonna keep the water out.

Dynamic pressure is an internet myth, perpetuated by internet talking heads, to justify "good" WR.

The only time dynamic pressure comes into play is if one is riding the front of a torpedo on a one way trip, or is Aquaman. First case is just a bad day, and ones limbs and soft tissues will have problems before the watch does. Second case is, well you're Aquaman and therefore a king, so no watch is needed, you arrive precisely when you mean to. 👀🤏🏻😜.

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I generally go by this, 50m doesn't mean you going down 50m, it means the pressure test, like diving in a pool puts a lot of pressure on your watch. I would prefer a watch with 100m if swimming. Remember dress watches are 30m and you are not supposed to do anything more than get light splashes on them. I go by this, apart from the shower bit 😮

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grand.psycho

I generally go by this, 50m doesn't mean you going down 50m, it means the pressure test, like diving in a pool puts a lot of pressure on your watch. I would prefer a watch with 100m if swimming. Remember dress watches are 30m and you are not supposed to do anything more than get light splashes on them. I go by this, apart from the shower bit 😮

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See this list a lot.

And granted different companies do different test. Buuut....

That diving in a pool thing is what I was referring to as dynamic pressure.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tale-of-two-isos-what-water-resistance-ratings-really-mean

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grand.psycho

No point missed, if it has a dive bezel, I want at least 100m WR.

It's a timing bezel... my first watch had one as well and it always fogged up under the crystal when I was skiing and it didn't clear until the holiday ended. 🤷But Timex has plenty of alternatives, if you still insist.