How is Bioceramic? More plastic or more ceramic?
I am quite taken by the scuba fifty fathoms. I am surprised on pairing clear case back with nato straps though, and might not pull the trigger till there are better strap options. Back to my question. I have bought plastic swatch long time ago, and zero experience with ceramic. For folks who have experience with bioceramics, is it more plastic? Or more ceramic? Pls share.
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Just plastic…
It’s not plastic. Is castor oil mixed with ceramic dust and baked.
It will have durability similar to a hard plastic though.
Wear NATOS with clear caseback's all the time. Here's one for example. I wouldn't fret over it.
It’s not plastic. Is castor oil mixed with ceramic dust and baked.
It will have durability similar to a hard plastic though.
It's still bioplastic with ceramic. So you mean it's just feels like harder plastic?
It's still bioplastic with ceramic. So you mean it's just feels like harder plastic?
Think somewhere in between a coffee mug and a hard water bottle. It definitely doesn’t feel like ceramic, but has more heft than a normal plastic watch.
I’m sorry, it’s a little hard to describe. I don’t know the vickers rating to give a quantifiable figure.
Wear NATOS with clear caseback's all the time. Here's one for example. I wouldn't fret over it.
But I heard bioceramic has good specific heat so it quickly assumes the temperature of the skin and that it is comfortable. Glass pressed on the wrist is one of the most unpleasant things in all of horology so I would assume the analogy to be inapt. I personally have yet to experience what I assume to be a chalky plastic.
Marketing term. It's just plastic and feels as cheap.
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I stumbled on this podcast today in my feed. I think it's very interesting. This man was also curious about it and he digged a little to find answers.
If this can help better understand.
Drop it on the ground...
Think somewhere in between a coffee mug and a hard water bottle. It definitely doesn’t feel like ceramic, but has more heft than a normal plastic watch.
I’m sorry, it’s a little hard to describe. I don’t know the vickers rating to give a quantifiable figure.
Ok. Doesn't feel like ceramic, feel like heavier plastic instead. Now I am more hesitant to pay more for heavier plastic. Haha
But I heard bioceramic has good specific heat so it quickly assumes the temperature of the skin and that it is comfortable. Glass pressed on the wrist is one of the most unpleasant things in all of horology so I would assume the analogy to be inapt. I personally have yet to experience what I assume to be a chalky plastic.
Interesting point. My point was, there's clear caseback to enjoy viewing the movement, but we need to take out the nato partially just to see it. For me, either nato with solid caseback, or non nato for clear caseback...
Regardless of the composition or marketing bs term, it just feels like a hard plastic in the hand and breaks easily.
Interesting point. My point was, there's clear caseback to enjoy viewing the movement, but we need to take out the nato partially just to see it. For me, either nato with solid caseback, or non nato for clear caseback...
Oh yes, the Swatchpain defeats this alleged advantage of bioceramic in the two ways mentioned. It is pretty meaningless in this application unless one tries to make an ecological point about an irreparable watch.
Totally more plastic. I honestly don’t know why that material has „Ceramic“ in its name besides that little bit of powder they mixed into it. We don’t sense any of that
It's plastic, pure and simple. 'Bioceramic' is just marketing to get people hyped.
Save your money, don't spend $400 on a toy plastic watch that can't be serviced.
And especially for a watch as hypocritical to make the band out of reclaimed fishing lines, yet is a disposable plastic watch, which seems to be the least environmentally friendly thing I can think of.
The “bio” part of “bioceramic” really comes into play when your wrist turns the same shade of blue as your Neptune Moonswatch.
I was just watching a tiktok on this from the grumpy ex swatch watchmaker.
He took a knife to a bioceramic lug and it went through it 'like butter'. So basically, it is just plastic.
When I got my hands on a Moonswatch and played for 8 seconds with the pushers and crown the low built quality and weakness of the components was immediately apparent and lowered the cash amount I would have spent on one to about 50 bucks, never more. I do not imagine there is a significant leap forward in quality with this new money grab. I’d say we’ll see the first posts with failed bezels in about two weeks.
It’s plastic, no matter what kind of dead organic material powder they cook in it to make it sound cool.
It’s not plastic. Is castor oil mixed with ceramic dust and baked.
It will have durability similar to a hard plastic though.
Brittle like an airfix or Tamaya plastic or like a lego block durable?
It's plastic.
A euphemism doesn't make it a new thing.
Sure, bioceramic is just like ceramic, just as Hardlex is as good as sapphire, PVD is just as tough as DLC, folded links are just as good as solid links, and resin straps are just as pliable and soft as rubber or silicon straps. 🤣
I’ve had some Moonswatches. Regardless of the technicalities it’s plastic. Always wore well for me. Lightweight and strong.
I don’t think there will be strap options from Swatch. Better look for your own, as I will if I decide to go for one.
The case will have strength because its all glued together. Crystals or movement is permanently there. No servicing beyond strap changes.
If it feels like plastic im not buying it, whatever they say how they made them 🤣, that bioceramic words its just a marketing scheme
Thanks everyone for your helpful and humorous comments. It's too bad that's its more plastic than ceramic. I still like the scuba fifty fathoms, but it is overpriced for plastic watch. And since not likely to get discount (look at moonswatch), I have to move on and search for my next watch!
It's definitely nicer than plastic. Has a nice texture and sharp edges that really would be hard to create with plastic molds. Ceramic watches in general just look and feel a little like plastic. If I knew nothing else and ram my finger along my Rado and then did the same with one of my Bioceramic Swatches, I might guess the Swatch was the ceramic one because it feels less smooth and polished, more matte.
Anyway, the people shouting about "it's plastic" are mostly wrong. Maybe they haven't worn many plastic or ceramic watches to compare. Bioceramic isn't ceramic, but it's definitely not just plastic either.
My advice, if you can, get to a Swatch store. You can check it out in person on their What If watches.
It's definitely nicer than plastic. Has a nice texture and sharp edges that really would be hard to create with plastic molds. Ceramic watches in general just look and feel a little like plastic. If I knew nothing else and ram my finger along my Rado and then did the same with one of my Bioceramic Swatches, I might guess the Swatch was the ceramic one because it feels less smooth and polished, more matte.
Anyway, the people shouting about "it's plastic" are mostly wrong. Maybe they haven't worn many plastic or ceramic watches to compare. Bioceramic isn't ceramic, but it's definitely not just plastic either.
My advice, if you can, get to a Swatch store. You can check it out in person on their What If watches.
Awesome advise. Will try it out in swatch stores soon. Definitely not on 9.9.23. Haha