Grand seiko uncertainty!!!

I tried some on Saturday and they’re incredibly well finished. Not sure about their quartz but I would expect it’s exceptional. I saw a picture of their quartz movement and it was decorated like a mechanical.

Yes ive heard about the quality of the case but quartz is already carzy precise how much more can u go to justify the price?

If you sit a high end quartz movement next to a lower end one, you'll see a difference in finish quality, the presence of jeweled pivots in the better one, and the ability to disassemble and service the better movement.

Lower end quartz movements tend to be disposable.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bXNgcGLODUA&pp=ygULOWYgbW92ZW1lbnQ%3D

The 9F movement is great!

I balked at quartz initially, then came to my senses with the GS SBGN003. Amazing finish with a 9F quartz!

go used GS for the best savings. They take a huge hit just calling them used. They are pretty but I have a 2 dollar quartz chinese watch that will be within 15 seconds of the GS and be disposable. " but the Zarats......."

There are a lot of features of a GS quartz (and finishing is just one of them), just read the manufacturers website and decide for yourself if they are worth the money:

https://www.grand-seiko.com/global-en/collections/movement/quartz

9F is 10s/year and even that can be regulated. How can you compare that to 15s/month bog standard quartz?

easy.. with a 2 dollar watch and 10k in my wallet.

Yeah, that's a solid point and it's part of the eternal debate here and on other social media, forums, etc. Why spend thousands when a 10$ mall watch tells the time quite accurately?

I dont see it though? So the big difference is serviceable? I would assume the cost to service is still really high no?

What makes it diffrent though

Ive never heard of a quartz that inaccurate

I think the video explains it pretty well…

One doesn't really see the quality of movement finish in most watches though. Knowing the quality of the work is higher is part of the benefit of purchasing a higher end watch, quartz or mechanical. The servicability is also a benefit, but the movement also lasts longer with the attention to the details and the jeweled pivots.

I feel that as you go up in cost, the improvements in function and finish become smaller incrementally, and the cost increases faster as the increments in improvement get smaller.

You will pay a premium price for a GS quartz watch over a high grade quartz watch from some other brand. My regular multi brand ad sells a lot of GS watches, to quite an intelligent watch enthusiast customer base, on one occasion I met a collector from Singapore wearing an older steel and white gold Rolex Datejust, as nice a watch from that brand as I have ever spotted. The senior gent was picking up a quartz Grand Seiko because at his age convenience of a quartz watch makes good sense. I am not there yet but might be soon.

Im not understanding

Doesn’t matter if some are quartz - not many watchmakers haven’t made a quartz watch. Would I buy a quartz or even a spring drive? No. But the fact that they’re there doesn’t hurt the brand.

Sorry, a good quartz watch is much more convenient to wear, as long as the battery is good, the individual mostly just needs to slip the watch on without needing to set the time etcetera. For most enthusiasts the fun is in winding a watch making sure the movement is properly adjusted. Older guys couldn’t be bothered.

Your wrist is big enough but definitely go in and try them on as some GSs are quite thick and some people find the balance between the heavy watch head and lighter bracelet a bit off. I think this is not so much and issue with the quartz models.

While you are in the dealer ask them the question about the quartz movement and see what they say.

A lot of modern quartz movements are disposable unserviceable 1 jewel movements. Now they may well last a while and be reasonably accurate but one they are done they are done and you either find a replacement movement or you junk they watch.

The GS 9F is a nine jewel movement developed with a focus both on accuracy and serviceability, pushing things like thermocompensation to the next level.

I personally find their new pricing a stretch for the quartz models and so would likely go low mileage used. But their quartz models are the best fit for my smallish wrist.

I do have a vintage automatic, a vintage Grand Quartz and a spring drive and they are all very fine. So I can certainly recommend GS for a very close look.

There’s lot of content on this on YouTube but mainly there is an independent hour hand (for traveling) and many hand done assembly. It’s super accurate and can be serviced by Seiko at a very high level.

Servicing is recommended after 50 years for their Quartz movement. Not sure on price but with that kind of freq it’d be good value 😄

İts not about just quartz superiority, finishing, dial quality and branding also factors

I opted for the quartz because I was convinced that is the thing Grand Seiko has perfected. The 9F movement can also be regulated to run closer to 0 SPY. And the finishing is perfect. But it did open up a level of respect for Grand Seiko and I am re-considering a shunbun again. What always threw me for a loop winding any high beat or spring drive still felt like winding a $300 Seiko. Given I’ve never spent more than 10 minutes with a GS an ultra precise quartz is what I landed on

And I’ll add the dial is perfect in low and high light that presence made it worth it

Im not saying its a bad thing just trying to understand the diffrence in quality