Watch Accuracy

Hey guys, first post here! What is your take on expected watch accuracy? We can break it down a little. Lets go by price segment of automatic and maual wind movements only. Comment on one or all of the segments and say what you expect or prefer to see!

1. $200-500

2. $500-1500

3.$1500-3500

4.$4000 and up

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  • $200-$500 - +/- 20s (Seiko 3/6 series movements)

  • $500-$1000 - +/- 12s (unregulated ETA 2824 or equivalent)

  • $1500-$3500 - +/- 6s

  • Once over $4k, I expect chronometer spec or better.

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I am wearing a watch that is around 70 years old. I set and wound it two days ago. My computer says that it is 8:38 and...so does my old watch. No adjustment, just a few more winds.

Because that is not as common as I would like, I am just going to take the win on this one. Over 30 years old I expect no better than +/- 1 minute per 24 hours.

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That green dial Seamaster should be Master Chronometer accurate. @AllTheWatches is spot on with my expectations

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TimeJunkie

That green dial Seamaster should be Master Chronometer accurate. @AllTheWatches is spot on with my expectations

Indeed! I set it six days ago and it has gained a half second, couldn’t be happier!

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I'm probably in the minority when I say that I'm not really that bothered. As I tend not to wear them for more than a day or perhaps two, unless they're really out then I'll not be aware of inaccuracies.

When I first get them then I wear them for a fortnight and see how they're performing/ settling in, and put them on the timegrapher through positions, but after that I don't notice.

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I have a fairly large number of automatics that I rotate through on a daily basis. A few of them are accurate enough to qualify as chronometers. While I certainly admire and appreciate watches that have that level of precision, time keeping to plus or minus a minute a day is totally fine as well. A watch that I'm realistically only going to wear perhaps once a week doesn't really owe me exquisite accuracy.

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Aurelian

I am wearing a watch that is around 70 years old. I set and wound it two days ago. My computer says that it is 8:38 and...so does my old watch. No adjustment, just a few more winds.

Because that is not as common as I would like, I am just going to take the win on this one. Over 30 years old I expect no better than +/- 1 minute per 24 hours.

That’s what I expect on my pocket watches. About a minute gained every 24 hours.

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All but one of my automatic watches are either certified chronometers, Rolex superlative chronometers or Master Chronometers (METAS) and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Because I wear all of them frequently enough to keep them wound, I compare each watches accuracy daily with my Twixt app. Most of my watches are regulated to within a max of +3 sec a day. My Rolex are phenomenal with -1/+1.6 sec a day between them.

My Grand Seiko Spring Drives are the real winners though. They don’t deviate more than +0.3sec a day. Ridiculously good accuracy. I do wish that they would get better at regulating their new 9SA5 80-Hour Hi-Beat with overcoil and free spring balance. The overcoil “should” balance out accuracy deviation depending on position but it’s not very consistent. It ranges from +1.6/+6.4sec a day and in most static positions it’s +5sec a day average. Crown up is most precise at +1.6sec However, it was once running at +11sec a day and had to get sent back for a regulation so it’s working much better. Just thought it could be better consider the technology they implemented.

Cheers 🥂

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Welcome to Watch Crunch!

Great piece! I have a first Gen AT and I love it.

I don’t care how accurate my mechanical timepieces are. If they are close enough, that works for me.

I get really picky when my quartz watches are more than a couple seconds a month off. I expect those to be “exact”.

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Grand seiko Spring drive . One movement to rule them all)

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Anything over 5K, I would expect and/or demand at least a COSC certification. I wouldn’t settle for less in this range because I know it’s very attainable. Mainly because I bought my Omega Planet Ocean for just over 5K used and in near mint condition with both COSC and METAS certifications.

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Dumont

Grand seiko Spring drive . One movement to rule them all)

Okay i cannot argue that! How robust are they for daily use in your experience?

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I expect +/-10 seconds per day for new watches.

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My SM300 runs spot on,serviced a few months ago, as I'd expect- that's a big factor in buying it. My mid range Seiko's a few seconds a day, I have a timegrapher,but I'm not obsessive about accuracy, around COSC is acceptable for around £1k....

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I don't mind movements being a little fast - no harm in being a little early now and then.

But if it's even 1 second slow, it seriously annoys me.

I found my Rolex was less accurate than my Tudor BB GMT - which was a little annoying to begin with, but over time I've grown used to it. I'll re-set it once a week or so.

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Coming from a guy who loves the idea of automatic watches(especially GMTs) but is bothered by the need to adjust it every 2-3 weeks due to eventual deviation, this makes Grand Seiko's 9r66 movement the ultimate prize for me.

To quote TGV, "All roads lead to Grand Seiko".

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1. $200-500 - It runs right? It keeps time right? Good enough! 🤣

2. $500-1500 - =/- 10 Sseconds per day

3.$1500-3500 - Better be close to or meets COSC

4.$4000 and up - COSC or METAS certified - If its an Omega, Tudor or Rolex, +/- 2 seconds a day

All figures "on the wrist" under normal wear conditions.

PS: Of course there are exceptions.

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Honestly don’t care about time keeping. I’m wearing art. At least that’s what I feel. Now my apply watch on my other wrist better be on point!! (Double watch gang)

When I need accuracy I wear quartz or look at my phone. I think of my mechanicals as nice wrist jewelry.

Not caring about accuracy also has the advantage that I can buy solely based on looks. That's especially handy with vintage watches as even the best movements are unlikely to be as accurate as when they left the factory.

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jackiewatches

Okay i cannot argue that! How robust are they for daily use in your experience?

Extremely robust. Spring drive is an ideal mechanical movement for, say, a sports watch. But it's also not really fair to compare a quartz-regulated movement with one that uses a more traditional escapement.

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Brand New Watches? I'd expect to get these results and to be consistent for the first few years.

$200-500 +-20s/day

$500-1500 +-15s/day

$1500-3500 -3/+7s/day

$4000 and up -1/+3s/day

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Dumont

Grand seiko Spring drive . One movement to rule them all)

The precious

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When your retired , accuracy becomes academic… In saying that , it’s still satisfying to own a quality timepiece that is accurate enough to not loose minutes a week , one ir two minutes a week , no problem, I enjoy the setting and winding process, I find it meditative.

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Killer watch! White dial

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jackiewatches

Okay i cannot argue that! How robust are they for daily use in your experience?

I own one and use it in my weekly rotation . Definitely no issues with at all .never had to correct the time . Ever

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Dumont

I own one and use it in my weekly rotation . Definitely no issues with at all .never had to correct the time . Ever

Glad to hear that! They are incredible pieces of art that are also very functional and precise

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I find the more accurate a mechanical watch, the more hair you lose worrying about it. That's why I'm kinda tempted to get a nice high-grade quartz as a daily driver, or a dress watch without a seconds hand as part of my small collection, just so there's fewer things to worry about.

Having said that, my nearly 50yr old Omega, after a recent service, has been running for nearly a week now with only a few seconds wobble on either side compared to my computer clock. I'm really very impressed.

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What accuracy are you getting with the Omega AT shades so far? Mine has been stable at +1 sec a day since I bought it.

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All hese watches ar $40 -$100. The three that above +- 2 I haven't adjusted yet. Accuracy is not about money.

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derrellgore
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All hese watches ar $40 -$100. The three that above +- 2 I haven't adjusted yet. Accuracy is not about money.

Accuracy is not about money, but certain price points dictate certain expectations from a mechanical movement. Glad yours are running well!