My beloved Seiko just disappointed me

I'm sure you can knock that way down by regulating it. You should use a timegrapher instead of an app though, it's more accurate. 👍

Sounds like the Seiko is magnetized. There's an app, Lepsis, for that! Or you can use any compass. just put next to the watch making sure the watch isn't north of it. If it swings with compass away from north, it's magnetized. If so, you can buy a demagnetizer on Amazon for ~$12.

I used to use the apps and I even bought a timegrapher. After a while, I kinda stopped caring. If I have to use an app or a machine to see how its running, then its not running poorly enough to worry. If its off by minutes after wearing it for a few hours then its an issue.

That's pretty far off. Not even within the very generous specs for the movement (+45to -30 )spd

The apps are only good for a pass/fail analysis. That does need regulation with the help of an actual timegrapher. Hopefully, there isn't some other problem with the movement.

I wouldn’t trust an app on my phone. Buy the machine to check your watches. There under 200. If your a collector, it’s worth it.

Nice looking presage! If you got it from dealer in the last year - it will be regulated under warranty. Or perhaps longer if you know the dealer. If not, you can pay to get it done or learn to do yourself.

My Alpinist got regulated under warranty - runs within METAS now. If I was getting another 6R35 I'd check it's accuracy right after purchase.

Not sure what app you are using - but the Twixt one works quite well and doesn't rely hearing the beats, which I think is unreliable unless done properly with a timegrapher.

I usually test my watches for accuracy almost as soon as I get them. It's nice to have a starting point, and if I have any trouble down the road, and I can still discuss purchase with seller if I run into any issues.

I have found Seiko mechanical movements to be inconsistent and inaccurate. Somedays they might be off +\- 3 seconds and somedays they might be off +\- 30 seconds. Seiko has a lot of good qualities, accurate mechanical movements at lower price points isnt one of them.

thanks!

amazing ginza by the way

You also need to test the watch in different positions, it my be 10 seconds fast when face up but 10 seconds slow when face down so the average is 0.....

I personally find the apps irrelevant though.

track the time keeping when wearing the watch at the start and end of the day, static tests don't give real world results

You can regulate it with a timegrapher. I did it to both of my seiko 5s. Had both within cosc in a few positions. But in my case, after a few months wit normal wear (basically desk diving) they are now off again. One is +27, the other has a quite big beat erro.

I was really disappointed. But it’s time to adjust them again… I guess for the price of the 5s, it’s not so bad…

I like the app if testing over a longer period, they will give your average. Which at the ent is what matters. Also gives you a reference to adjust. If I’m averaging +10 over a week, I would just offset the 10 sec on whatever reading I get from the grapher. I find this way to be more realistic for a Daly wearer.

Thats way off. Seikos are not known for accuracy but that is pretty bad. I would think there is an issue or it's magnetized.

Looks like normal Seiko to me.

Which app is that?

Every time I see that watch

This is why I get frustrated with Seiko. Their just put the movement in the watch and hope for the best approach is just not good enough. The presage 60’s style is a fantastic looking watch (as are most of their designs) but the hit and miss approach to accuracy would drive me nuts.

Thanks!

Personally I would take this for the robustness of the movement, I have had major issues with 3 watches in my life,

2 of them were ETA 2824'S one with reverse gears stripping, the second spun the rotor when trying to wind and eventually locked up,

The last was an omega 8900 that was returned twice under warranty before I lost faith, common issue apparently with the jumping hour hand a date function, mine stopped changing date and the hour hand would just spin...

It's important to note what side a watch lands on when you drop it. That way you can reverse the effect of the bump by dropping it on the opposite side.

I'm kidding. Don't deliberately drop watches. But decent whacks are enough to alter beat rate a tad.

My Seiko 5 runs within COSC, and so do all the NH35 movements in my box.

The Orient and Miyota are 20+spd on average.

opposite for me 😅

I think you may have accidentally misled people here. You can't regulate a watch with just a timegrapher, it will only tell you how well it runs. To regulate it, you need to remove the caseback and adjust it, something many of us are wont to do. You can get dust or dirt in it or incorrectly seat the seal when you put it back together. I've torn down an engine and rebuilt it (yes, it ran) but wouldn't take a watch apart, just too easily done wrong.

Yes. You are right. I assumed it was underlined but good to make it clear.

About opening the case back, of course it is personal. I am a mechanical engineer specialized in cars and BEVs. I loved the experience. And if you are gonna ruin something, I figured it would be better to ruin a cheaper movement. But at the end it is more scary than complicated in my point of view.

I’ve given up checking. I used a timegrapher for a few months but with too many watches to check it became tedious. Now I just keep a general eye on them and only worry if I’m going to wear one. Then I reset the time from a atomic clock regulated G-Shock.

I've said it before, but maybe you haven't seen it or heard it. I would buy the Ginza if it was off by 10 minutes, 30 minutes, or four hours a day. I wouldn't care how fast or slow it was. That's such a beautiful watch, I would buy it if it had no movement at all.

😂. Got it!

Well - your kind praise actually made me pull it out of the box and wear it hiking in on Black mountain today!

Looks beautiful in the sunlight, although would also look great in first light, twilight, fluorescent light, ultraviolet light . . .