Miyota Problems
Hey y’all, my beloved Smiths Everest is acting up again. I bought it in May, and this is the second time I’ve had this issue. I had it “fixed” once by a local watchmaker, but the problem is back. It’s like the watch has no power reserve. It keeps time within the normal expected ranges, but if stops Running within 15-30 minutes of me taking it off at the end of the day. Again, it’s like there’s no power reserve and it only works when there’s constant action on the automatic rotor.
any thoughts? I’m not going back to the first watchmaker and second told me he doesn’t work on Miyota movements. I’m based in Rhode Island, USA if anybody Has a watchmaker recommendation.
26 comments
Sort by
Joseph
Welcome to my WatchCrunch profile.
Providence, RI
Member since
Last active: 1 month ago
The one thing I have done myself was remove the small plate separating the rotor from the case back. It looks like the rotor was getting caught on that for a time. It was stop and starting randomly before then. Now it’ll run, just doesn’t store energy in the spring
Do you wind it manually the beginning of the day to get the watch running? If so, I would suspect there may be something wrong with the automatic works. The mainspring might be winding down from your initial wind but the rotor may not be keeping it wound it up as you wear it. Just a thought.
You do handwind it before using the watch, right?
Could be the mainspring slipping, if it's really low on power.
But could also be sth else, if the power reserve is not the problem, but the geartrain get's stuck on sth. (e.g. a burr on a gear tooth, or dust/dirt.)
Curious… Did you try contacting Timefactors?
Curious… Did you try contacting Timefactors?
Yaaaaaa I had heard too many bad stories to even bother trying that lol
Do you wind it manually the beginning of the day to get the watch running? If so, I would suspect there may be something wrong with the automatic works. The mainspring might be winding down from your initial wind but the rotor may not be keeping it wound it up as you wear it. Just a thought.
I do wind it Before wearing. Thank you. this is helpful. I just need something to talk to the next watchmaker about so they don’t brush me off. The last literally opened it up, looked inside, and told me that he doesn’t work on quartz watches smh
You do handwind it before using the watch, right?
Could be the mainspring slipping, if it's really low on power.
But could also be sth else, if the power reserve is not the problem, but the geartrain get's stuck on sth. (e.g. a burr on a gear tooth, or dust/dirt.)
Thank you. I do wind it Before wearing too. I noticed some black rubbing marks from the rotor on that plate in between the rotor and casback and that actually allowed me to be able to wear it for a full day again.
Sounds like you have found 2 incompetent so called watchmakers. Might be worthwhile reaching out to Smiths to get it serviced. It will then come with a warranty.
Curious… Did you try contacting Timefactors?
Good luck with that.
Sounds like you have found 2 incompetent so called watchmakers. Might be worthwhile reaching out to Smiths to get it serviced. It will then come with a warranty.
Ya, the first one also Scammed my fiancé on a gift she bought for me then wouldn’t let us return it, so I had to make do with store credit. Just a jerk. The second watchmaker is probably just a snob That didn’t want to work on a Miyota.
I personally have had very bad luck with Miyota movements (lower and mid stuff) so I avoid them like the plague. I’m sure many others have had the opposite experience, though.
Doesn't work on Miyotas? What a douchebag!
I'll ask the dumb questions. How much do you wind it? How active are you during the day?
I'm sure they are dumb questions, but I have seen people complain about automatic movements quitting when they wind only until the seconds hand starts, then sit around all day not really moving a lot.
There's a guy in north Providence that's supposed to be good, he's recommended by a friend. Ifyou were just wanting a movement swap that's something I could do but I haven't worked on movements to diagnose them.
There's a guy in north Providence that's supposed to be good, he's recommended by a friend. Ifyou were just wanting a movement swap that's something I could do but I haven't worked on movements to diagnose them.
I’ve actually talked to him on the phone. I’m going to see him next week. Good to hear are commendation too though!
I'll ask the dumb questions. How much do you wind it? How active are you during the day?
I'm sure they are dumb questions, but I have seen people complain about automatic movements quitting when they wind only until the seconds hand starts, then sit around all day not really moving a lot.
Ya it’s a concern, given my desk job, but I wind it a ton to try to compensate and it’s still a problem.
I’ve actually talked to him on the phone. I’m going to see him next week. Good to hear are commendation too though!
If that falls through I have also heard about a guy in Attleboro but I think he's more vintage focused.
Beautiful watch, shame about your issue. Have you tried taking it up with the manufacturer?
you can buy a 9 series movement for $100.00 to replace it. Japanese movements are not worth fixing like the Swiss ones.
Well thats a killjoy. It has to be the either the rotor isn't moving, the train isn't winding, or the clutch on the spring is totally slipping. It isn't rocket science, somebody should be able to figure it out.
Need a good watchmaker. If it runs for 10-15 mins after wearing, but then stops (assuming you handwind it as well!), then it's likely a problem with the barrel arbor, or mainspring (there's other issues as well, but those are the likely culprits) - find a watchmaker who's willing to give it a proper look - they don; tjust stop for no reason....
And the nightmare stories continue....
Stories like these is why I stay away from this brand. Sorry to hear of your troubles.
Shout out to RI Watch Service Center in North Providence, RI for getting this thing fixed and back to me. I’ve already spent more on servicing than the cost of the watch when I bought it back in May, but buying mechanical watches these days is already kind of stupid lol
my next purchase will be a used skx, so I can learn to mod and swap movements for when this thing breaks again lol
Update: it’s broken again.