The moonswatch brings out the worst in our hobby.

It seems like the Moonswatch is back in the news and all over social media again, maybe is all the media outlets doing their year in review posts?  I don't know but all the coverage has lead to more forum/facebook group/insta posts, and this has brought out the worst things and people in this hobby.  

The brand fanboy/this ruined Omega guy.  Yes, sorry to say this is as Omega as it is Swatch.  Really if you think about it every Omega since 1998 is a Swatch.  Did this hurt the brand?  No, not at all.  Did it make your Speedy worthless?  No, but if you think so Ill give you $1500 for it.  Are Moonswatch owners Omega owners?  I guess, maybe, who cares?  If they care enough to post it in Omega groups/forums, you should be happy people are into something you enjoy.  

Its not an Omega guy.  Its a Swatch, its an Omega, its a Swatmega.... who cares?   Sure its not as nice as your Speedy pro, but its still kinda rad.  Let people enjoy things.  

You could have gotten X for less.  You are right but that doesnt look like a baby blue speedy with a built in butt joke... Its made out of confectioners sugar and kinda looks like a happy meal toy, I get it. Its $300, which is cheap but also a stupid amount to spend on a watch for 90% of the population, so get what you want. 

Snobs. I usually see this on facebook groups, but its the guy that will crap on someones post calling it a fake Omega and then post his really expensive watch... I know of several watch collectors with some really heavy hitters and they rock their moonswatch constantly.  I know of a watch box that has a legit vintage marine national Tudor, an Ultraman, Autaiva orange boy, Daytona's, Subs, and a Jupiter.. 

Hype/Flippers. I don't need to spend a ton of time here, it sucks. But also if you buy into the hype and pay $2000 for a $300 watch that is built like a $40 watch, that's on you. 

Sorry, I know this is a long rant and honestly I am probably missing something.  This isn't me defending my purchase or the watch in general, its honestly a crappy watch.  Its cheap, the crystal scratches and I am scared to use the chrono because I don't want the pusher to break.  But its fun and that is what this all should be about.  I have made a friend because of this watch, he had a speedy on and noticed it...  They look great on tons of straps and they have gotten non watch people into the hobby.  My wife never wears a watch and has taken to wearing my moonswatch.  This is supposed to be fun, some of yall take it way to seriously.  

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Like they say, “to each his own.” I don’t get worked up on choices people make - they’re not going to tarnish the image of a global brand. Not my thing, but I’ll refrain from criticizing 

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FreshPots

Like they say, “to each his own.” I don’t get worked up on choices people make - they’re not going to tarnish the image of a global brand. Not my thing, but I’ll refrain from criticizing 

Criticizing the watch is fine, I did several times in the post.  Being horrible to people and making them feel like they aren't "reel watch collectors" isn't okay.  

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It did what it was supposed to do, increased interest in the Moonwatch.

MoonSwatch - Sales of the Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch skyrocketed by 50% thanks to the MoonSwatch hype, created by the collaboration between Omega and Swatch earlier this year, in March 2022. This is so amazing, considering that it has only been four months since the cheap version of 'Omega' is available on the market for only $250.

I have no interest in Moonswatches, but it was a smart thing for Swatch to do.

https://iflwatches.com/blogs/news/moonswatch-boosts-moonwatch-sales

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There's something for everyone. It has its audience.

I wouldn't pay the amount for this kind of quality but hey, I'm just a nobody in a big sea of people. Glad to hear that your wife is having fun with it! It looks nice, not going to lie.

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kutsarov

There's something for everyone. It has its audience.

I wouldn't pay the amount for this kind of quality but hey, I'm just a nobody in a big sea of people. Glad to hear that your wife is having fun with it! It looks nice, not going to lie.

Today is like the 4th time I have worn it haha.  Its actually kinda nice on this nato, really comfy but I am worried I'll break it.  

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Honestly I have no interest in it except how it annoys all the right people.

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I stand by the boiled-down version of my feeling:

Charge what its quality is really worth, and I would have found a way to buy three of the things. But it‘s doing just fine selling as it is. 
 

No-one with one should ever complain about any but the most offensively bad homage watches again though xD

(I think the moonswatch has helped sell many many Pagani 1701s by this point. Not to mention a few Sekonda, Accurist, Corgeut etc etc and et al) 

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JaimeMadeira

I stand by the boiled-down version of my feeling:

Charge what its quality is really worth, and I would have found a way to buy three of the things. But it‘s doing just fine selling as it is. 
 

No-one with one should ever complain about any but the most offensively bad homage watches again though xD

(I think the moonswatch has helped sell many many Pagani 1701s by this point. Not to mention a few Sekonda, Accurist, Corgeut etc etc and et al) 

Ehhh I kinda disagree on the homage concept.  The speedy is like a GMC Seirra Denali loaded out, and the moonswatch is a Chevy Silverado stripper spec w/t.  They are both GM products but built to different specs.  Pagani would be like a random Chinese company using GM's intellectual property to build a pickup that looks like a Silverado.  But that being said, buy em if you like them, they aren't my thing. 

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I still maintain that this Phylida homage watch:

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is a better alternative to the Speedmaster than the Moonswatch.

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So, here is my take.  The "Moonswatch" is a cheap disposable plastic Swatch, as all Swatches are, and have been since 1983.  I might pay $40.00 for one.  Other than that, I have far more interesting watches to examine and purchase.  A friend recently gifted me a fake Omega Seamaster 300.  It is as real an Omega as the "Moonswatch".

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I‘m not sure if you are telling some of us off or just venting. Hope your wife enjoys the MoonSwatch.

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Porthole

I‘m not sure if you are telling some of us off or just venting. Hope your wife enjoys the MoonSwatch.

Mostly venting about the types of things and people I mentioned, the moonswatch just seems to be a catalyst for it.  Watchcrunch is usually great and most people have a live and let live attitude but other forums and facebook have been kinda awful the last few weeks.  

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JBird7986

I still maintain that this Phylida homage watch:

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is a better alternative to the Speedmaster than the Moonswatch.

Agreed & I haven't tried a Phylida on. 

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Porthole

I‘m not sure if you are telling some of us off or just venting. Hope your wife enjoys the MoonSwatch.

Kinda both. Lol. 

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I like the Moonswatch. I like that we all had something to talk about. I like that many muggles asked me about it this summer because all the hype got them interested.

I have no interest in owning one though but enjoy seeing posts from people trying to catch em all or making jokes that they now own Uranus.

If there is one thing from your well written post I take with me...

Really if you think about it every Omega since 1998 is a Swatch.

My '95 Omega is valid and I can look down on all the new ones 😁😁😁

I hope we'll have other juicy topics next year.

  • Omega X Swatch X 007 Seamaster
  • Rolex changes to a subscription model 
  • Seiko re-releases my cheap Seiko 5 in the ProsageX line for 1700 £$€

II'm looking forward to a time where the Moonswatch is so last year 👍

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Ok, here is my concern.  Everywhere I go, I see people with no interest in watches.  They don't wear one at all.  In fact, it's now a surprise to me if someone is wearing a watch.  So I anticipate a time when watches will be a very niche market. (The Applewatch is another topic).  

So if the swatch increases interest in Omega and watches in general, then I'm happy.  What my concern has to do with is the quality of the watch.  If thousands buy the watch on hype, and get disappointed with the quality, then that's another knock on watches.  Young people will feel another reason why watches are undesirable.  And my concern was that long term, people would conclude that these are cheap low quality products not worth the money.  (Which is kinda true).

So I'm hoping for a positive effect, but skeptical in the long term.  

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Exactly, as the old saying goes " If you have nothing nice to say say nothing"

So ..

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JaimeMadeira

I have been curious about it… what are the subdial functions, and is the main hand the chrono?

(my only tachy bezel watch has the chrono on a subdial, making it a sod to use — Accurist, titanium, quartz, all lovely, looks a bit like the speedmaster date with a nice blue dial, but the tachy is a sod to use and the watch only gives me up to an hour of timing.) 

So it’s pretty much a standard ST19-based manual-wind chronograph with an extra subdial at the 6 o’clock position.  Small seconds at 9, chronograph minute counter a 3 and a mimic of the current hour at 6.

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I thought it was a fun release but didn't really appreciate the manner in which they released it and then promised online availability and then reneged on it. 

I don't really think speedmaster owners should have to look down on a moonswatch...at least I wouldn't care if I owned one (moonwatch).

The Moonwatch will always be one of the most iconic watches out there and the moonswatch will be...well..a Swatch..a fun, accessible take on watches

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southernwatch

Criticizing the watch is fine, I did several times in the post.  Being horrible to people and making them feel like they aren't "reel watch collectors" isn't okay.  

I'm over it.

No interest, even below retail.

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I saw and tried it don't like how its built. Theres far better swatches and other brands than that.  The hype is dead! There still dumb nuts out there buying them over priced.

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Have a Swatch and a speedy homage but just haven't put the peanut butter in the chocolate. Nothing against the mix, just not for me is all. I do however love taking part in the jokes, probably my favorite part on the moonswatch.

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Good point(s).

Better strap combo!

Enjoy it, dude! (isn't that the idea?)

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I don't like the MoonSwatch and I think there are better options in its price range. Having said that I also want to add that there are plenty of other watches that I don't like and if I ever decided to invest the time and effort in providing unsolicited advise to anyone considering buying one of them, then that's pretty much all I would do everyday and life is too short to let waste in criticizing other people choices.

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The Moonswatch is purely an exercise in marketing. The only positive is that it did get me interested in watch collecting. I got annoyed that I couldn't buy one and then, based on the reviews, discovered it is just plastic, including a plastic crystal. I then discovered Pagani Design. I now have several PD homages, including the Speedy homage, as well as some high end Japanese watches (Citizen Attesa and Casio Oceanus).

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We sure do love to complain about a $300 plastic quartz watch and rave about a $5-10k stainless steel mechanical watch, as if pricing was a thing that reflects materials and tech with watches objectively. Maybe we just don't like things we can't easily have when we want them? 

Watches aren't supposed to make sense, they are fun if you like them, that's really all there is to it. Hype and flippers ruin a lot of fun things, but you don't have to spend your money on watches, in fact you probably shouldn't haha.

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It brought out a lot of weirdness in people, agreed. And I found I had nothing in common with any of them. I love Omega, but I didn't think it hurt the brand in the slightest. I found that ridiculous. I also had no interest in getting one to flip, etc, etc, etc. The biggest issue I had around the watch was that it was overpriced for what it was. Needed to be $50-$100 cheaper, to really hammer home, yes, this is a plastic watch - virtually a toy watch - and it will scratch like you cannot possibly believe. So come in, buy it cheap, but be aware, it's not a particularly good watch. A fun watch sure, but a good watch... nope. Priced where it was (let alone at aftermarket prices), I think it made people expect the watch to be more than it actually was.

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Well said that man...😁👍

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Swatch have succeeded. Everyone is taking about this piece of polluting plastic crap.

Personally I'm trying to forget but I can't unsee it unfortunately. Wish I could.

The only thing that makes me happy is the thought of some pleb spending 3 grand on one.

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if only they would have made the moonswach to the quality of a Hamilton... they would have sold just as many, and it would have been a decent watch.