Why aren’t more watches using this Movement
The Bulova Precisionist quartz movement P102 seems awesome.
-really high accuracy—> basically on spring drive Niveau
- smooth sweeping second hand —> like spring drive?
and all the other upsides to quartz movements
i know technically there is a really big difference between this and spring drive but on the outside this seems like a viable budget spring drive option.
but this is where i don’t understand bulova.
most precisionist watches are to me straight up unattractive and carelessly designed. To some these might be beautiful but I guess I’m more of a simplistic design kinda guy.
Then there is this one
It looks fine I would even wear it but why would anyone want this style of watch in 43mm. Unless you are one really big individual.
I know bulova is capable of making beautiful watches… why don’t they make one with this amazing movement?
Also why are no microbrands using these? Does bulova keep these to themselves?
would love to hear opinions and answers to this!
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One of the reasons that I heard is that the movement is very large and therefore will only fit in cases over 43mm, which prevents Bulova from using one of its heritage cases and force them to design new cases and dials and we all saw how bad Bulova are at designing new watches lately.
However, I watched a review of this model with its case opened and it looked as if there was plenty of space inside and that the movement could easily fit into a 40mm or smaller case, so IDK why it's not used all over.
It's a great movement. However I don't see the appeal with most smooth sweeping quartz that run off batteries (as opposed to the spring drive which generates its own power). The battery should drain considerably quicker. I've never understood the hate for a ticking second hand 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah, I was intrigued by this movement, until I realized that all the watches using it are huge, and most are really gaudy. I don't get Citizen. They won't capitalize on what they have. They have the The Citizen, aka the Chronomaster, which they won't market outside of Japan. No one seems to know that their ultrathin EcoDrive One line exists. All anyone knows in Europe and the Americans are their cheap quartz mall watches.
One of the reasons that I heard is that the movement is very large and therefore will only fit in cases over 43mm, which prevents Bulova from using one of its heritage cases and force them to design new cases and dials and we all saw how bad Bulova are at designing new watches lately.
However, I watched a review of this model with its case opened and it looked as if there was plenty of space inside and that the movement could easily fit into a 40mm or smaller case, so IDK why it's not used all over.
I looked at that watch before, it was very intriguing, but 43mm on a non-diver is just too large for my wrist.
I had picked up the Bulova Precisionist 96B158 from Amazon a couple of years ago, as I was intrigued by the smooth sweep of the seconds hand. While the sweep of the seconds hand is indeed quite mesmerizing, the accuracy that I've experienced isn't anywhere close to the 10 seconds per year claimed. I had set the watch to precise automatic time on June 8, and just checked the watch today (115 days later). Over that time, it has gained 10 seconds. Assuming that same rate throughout the year, it works out to approximately 32 seconds per year, or about 2.6 seconds per month.
In comparison, I also set my Omega Speedmaster Skywalker X-33 to a precise reference time 124 days ago, and it has only gained 1 second during that time, which works out to about 3 seconds per year.
Yeah, I was intrigued by this movement, until I realized that all the watches using it are huge, and most are really gaudy. I don't get Citizen. They won't capitalize on what they have. They have the The Citizen, aka the Chronomaster, which they won't market outside of Japan. No one seems to know that their ultrathin EcoDrive One line exists. All anyone knows in Europe and the Americans are their cheap quartz mall watches.
I'm pretty sure Citizen owns the market between $300-1000, and sells well domestically. Watch Collectors are a fraction of the watch buying market, most people I know who aren't "into" watches either own a Citizen Eco-Drive, or plan to own one...
It seems Citizen is also making moves on the enthusiast market with the newer Series 8 watches, and more emphasis on mechanical overall.
My guess about the Precisionist movement is that the market for it would be so small there is not interest in investing much effort on the them. Most muggles don't care about ticking seconds hands.
I've owned a couple Precisionists and they are very accurate.
But neither was close to 10 seconds/year. More like 20-ish.
Yes you right Precisionist quartz might not be the best looking watches. But performance on them watches are excellent I came close purchasing one. I held back got me a Citizen instead. I do got a basic Bulova I'm happy with that.
Yeah…a 39mm Bulova with that movement in their Marine Star line would be sweet. But I’m fantasizing again!
Not a surprise, I believe Citizen Caliber 0100 still the most accurate quartz movement +1 sec per year. But isn't smooth as Bulova precisionist movement, it's a ticking quartz.