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No

Generally yes. Some models from certain brands cross the lines either up or down. But from a very general perspective it’s not perfect but isn’t totally off base either.

Just on the basics, Citizen and Tissot are no more or less "consumer" than Seiko.

I like this list.

It puts Richard Mille in the same category as JLC. Now I have JLCs, so that means I am Richard Mille level.

I see no mistakes on your logic 😂

Casio should be ultra luxury

It's about opinion. For the vast majority on the list I would never be able to afford them, so I couldn't care less. But I still appreciate the design and quality (from a distance)

Its just a price segmentation of the market...

These lists are always entertaining

Sure, why not?

I mean to say you can call it however you want. Whether Longines is entry level luxury or enthusiast or whatever doesn’t really change the content of the product does it? Someone on here posted something earlier about a $2k watch being referred to as entry level, same thing. Whoever puts these silly labels on this stuff can do that all they want, it doesn’t change or affect the watch at all.

When I consider a watch these terms never really work their way into my decision making.

These kinds of terms are only invoked to convince us we should be trying to ‘level up’ to the next tier and in the process but more stuff.

“Oh I see you have enthusiast watches, maybe you’d like luxury next…. Perhaps ultra-super-exclusive luxury.”

Totally

There’s a lot I disagree with. Moving Oris and formex into entry level luxury as well as move orient and citizen into enthusiast just to name a few changes.

I can see 2 watches from Hermes that I would really enjoy owning but none from Rolex and I actually respect Rolex still own a few vintage doctors’ watches and some bubble backs that I will never sell off.

In a word no 🤣

No. Many reasons, but to name a few:

Lange, MB&F, Credor and a few others are legitimately above the trinity.

Zenith, Glashutte, IWC, GS, Credor are at least as good as Rolex.

It is quite subjective for a lot of the rest.

I'd boot Rolex out of the high end luxury into the luxury category. I'd then combine the high end luxury with the ultra luxury as I can't see the difference with most of them.

How can Gucci, Dior & Ralph Lauren be in the same category as Credor & Chopard? Not for me, they're getting booted down a couple of divisions or Credor & Chopard get a promotion.

Anyway it's all subjective bollox that were I to look at it tomorrow I'd probably contradict myself 😜

I rarely see any real logic in these kind of charts. Lange and Rolex in the same bracket? Ralph Lauren and Glashütte Original?! And the names themselves…’Consumer’…so when I bought a CW, Squale or GO I wasn’t a consumer?

Arrrrgh…I clicked on the clickbait again 😂

How is Ulysee Nardin in luxary category?

Do Ralph Lauren even make watches?

This list is soooo baad

Rado and Oris on the enthusiast level?

Tissot deserves to be in the Enthusiast or Entry-level Luxury category, IMO, and TAG Heuer more properly belongs in Entry-level Luxury, but as always, I could be wrong.

Ulysse Nardin makes some pretty serious watches and they are not cheap. Their style is what you might call “subjective” but they actually make very fine watches.

Ralph Lauren doesn’t make a lot of watches but when he does, they are serious. He actually uses Piaget movements.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ralph-lauren-updated-its-867-collection-now-its-the-dress-watch-it-should-be

Somebody with Google and Photoshop made a thing about watches. How cute?

Credor is equal to Patek. So is ALS. The trinity can get bent. They aren’t in a tier by themselves.

Rolex is not on ALS level either.

Vostok is in there twice in two different tiers.

So many other weird and wacky decisions here.

I didn't make the list, its been going on for some year now by watchuseek

I didn’t ever think you made the list. LOL

They are always amusing though. I actually think they make them so wrong deliberately to generate discussion, outrage and views.

Terrible list. MY list is the only correct list and I won’t let you see it. Only my opinion counts. 😂