NH35 Accuracy - Surprised!! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

EDIT: I'm now almost 4 days in, and devastated that upon close examination I've lost time.... She's now ticking a full 2 or 3 seconds behind. Oh the horror!! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜‚

A quick update on yesterday's #nwa: after approx 48 hours, she's still bang on +/-1 sec. Colour me pleasantly surprised! I've heard horror stories (and good stories also) about the NH35 all round the Web, so the fact that it's pretty much exactly on time after 48 hours is pretty amazing to me! (Eyeballing it against the atomic clock time here in NZ)

Would this be a normal experience with this movement? Or should I just count myself lucky? Or perhaps do I need a longer time frame to really test it? ๐Ÿค”

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ยท

I have had good experiences with the NH35 overall. Almost all have come out of the box running within +/- 15 spd on wrist, with many much tighter than that. They can also be quite easily regulated when needed. I have quite a few that run close to 0 spd with some daily variation.

But it is a bit of a dice roll, so it seems you did get a lucky good one.

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I had a good experience with the nh35 and with Addie's. My Willard is one of the most accurate automatic watches I have

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I have a number of NH35 and NH34 watches. Only one is under 10's a day and that is +2.

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All automatic movements are a crapshoot.

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gbelleh

I have had good experiences with the NH35 overall. Almost all have come out of the box running within +/- 15 spd on wrist, with many much tighter than that. They can also be quite easily regulated when needed. I have quite a few that run close to 0 spd with some daily variation.

But it is a bit of a dice roll, so it seems you did get a lucky good one.

I haven't tried my hand at regulating watches. But as I understand it, it's that mini dial on the balance wheel right? If your watch is fast, then slow it down a touch. And vice versa?

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bomble

I had a good experience with the nh35 and with Addie's. My Willard is one of the most accurate automatic watches I have

That's interesting. Theres a group of watch nuts convinced that many of the Chinese brands don't regulate their movement before shipping. And then there's people like you and me who notice super accurate watches right out the box!

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CliveBarker1967

I have a number of NH35 and NH34 watches. Only one is under 10's a day and that is +2.

Perhaps I need to give it more time. But I believe the accepted range for the NH35 is around the 10 to 25 sec/day mark right?

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foghorn

All automatic movements are a crapshoot.

Fair enough! Would you still apply that to auto movements from luxury brands? I'd have assumed that at those price points they'll have done all the regulating and triple checking, in-house, before sending out a watch?

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Nice watch, I've had a couple of these gone through my hands recently and they punch well above they're price point. I've a fair few nh35's and they seem comparable with the entry level Swiss, sellita etc (though I haven't a timegrapher,just observation).

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Watch_Fan

I haven't tried my hand at regulating watches. But as I understand it, it's that mini dial on the balance wheel right? If your watch is fast, then slow it down a touch. And vice versa?

Yes, I would only recommend doing it yourself if you have a timegrapher, patience, a steady hand, and are sure you know what you're doing. But it's great to be able to improve the performance of a watch.

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Watch_Fan

That's interesting. Theres a group of watch nuts convinced that many of the Chinese brands don't regulate their movement before shipping. And then there's people like you and me who notice super accurate watches right out the box!

Many of my Ali Express watches have come out of the box running exceptionally well. Most of my Islanders too. Not sure if they're regulating them, or if I've just been lucky.

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I've played with building watches with this movement and after about half a dozen, I have yet to find one that is more than +/- 10 seconds per day. Very good movement.

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Stricko

Nice watch, I've had a couple of these gone through my hands recently and they punch well above they're price point. I've a fair few nh35's and they seem comparable with the entry level Swiss, sellita etc (though I haven't a timegrapher,just observation).

Same, I set it at what the atomic clock says online, and just eyeball it from there. But seems accurate enough! Seconds hand sweeps past the exact second index, when compared to the digital read out on my screen ๐Ÿ˜Š

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gbelleh

Yes, I would only recommend doing it yourself if you have a timegrapher, patience, a steady hand, and are sure you know what you're doing. But it's great to be able to improve the performance of a watch.

I'll give it a few more weeks and see. Going on a road trip next weekend, different temperatures, water exposure, etc. Let's see how it holds up, and if it's off I'll have a go at regulation ๐Ÿ˜Š

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gbelleh

Many of my Ali Express watches have come out of the box running exceptionally well. Most of my Islanders too. Not sure if they're regulating them, or if I've just been lucky.

I think Island watches would be regulating. Especially as they've got such a 'legit' online presence. So very easily approached about faults. But yes, so far I'm going with 'lucky'. We'll see if I'm still lucky in a few weeks ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Watch_Fan

I think the general consensus has been that the Seiko movements are absolutely fine, but sometimes you can get a little unlucky. However, nothing a little bit of regulation can't fix, if a particular watch seems to be out. So all in all, I'm quite happy with this one. Make me more confident about other brands and pieces that use the NH-series movements. ๐Ÿ˜„

Absolutely

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foghorn

Understood. My comment was directed to those of us in the mainstream who purchase less intricate watches that are less than 5 digit MSRP's.I have seen many complain ing of their COSC movements being at +4 or -2 which, though within spec, don't meet their standards.

Fair enough, I don't think I'd title this post 'Pleasantly Surprised' if I was talking about a COSC-certified movement ๐Ÿ˜‚ It would just be titled, 'It's doing what I expect it to do!'

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Watch_Fan

Are you trying to regulate it yourself, or was it already off straight out of the box?

It was way off, straight out of the box. Iโ€™ve had a go at regulating it myself, but no luck

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Iโ€™ve had a really good experience with the NH35 in my Spinnaker Hass. Iโ€™ve only had to adjust it once in the last month itโ€™s been running., and even then it was only about a minute fast over that time. Pretty spot on

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TikTikboom

It was way off, straight out of the box. Iโ€™ve had a go at regulating it myself, but no luck

Aw sorry to hear that mate! So what did you do with the watches?

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WolfgangGullich

Iโ€™ve had a really good experience with the NH35 in my Spinnaker Hass. Iโ€™ve only had to adjust it once in the last month itโ€™s been running., and even then it was only about a minute fast over that time. Pretty spot on

Very nice! That's very decent accuracy over a month!! I'm now sitting at approx 56 hours, and still within 0.5 seconds when timed against thr atomic clock ๐Ÿ˜‚

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The only watch that I have had with a NH36 (NH35 with day date) which ran accurately was a Nodus sector pilot. Nodus regulates the movements to 10s/day and it ran well within these parameters. Seikoโ€™s which I have had have never been as accurate. You have to ask yourself the question if Nodus can do it at their price point then why donโ€™t Seiko? After all the most basic function of a watch is to tell the time.

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Aa_bcfc

The only watch that I have had with a NH36 (NH35 with day date) which ran accurately was a Nodus sector pilot. Nodus regulates the movements to 10s/day and it ran well within these parameters. Seikoโ€™s which I have had have never been as accurate. You have to ask yourself the question if Nodus can do it at their price point then why donโ€™t Seiko? After all the most basic function of a watch is to tell the time.

You're right. I think in some aspects... Seiko is falling victim of it's own success. 'People will buy our product anyways', so certain aspects like value for money, quality control, regulation start to drift as production changes from quality to quantity. But that's just my two cents ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Watch_Fan

Aw sorry to hear that mate! So what did you do with the watches?

Appreciate it!

I still have it. Itโ€™s a Seiko mod (my first) that I built, with the idea that itโ€™ll be something to learn from. It turned out pretty cool actually, with only a couple hiccups. The movement came from Namoki, along with most of the parts, and I heard the regulate their movements. If thatโ€™s true, this one slipped passed for sure.

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Oh sounds interesting! Mind sharing a picture?

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The movement itself is OK, as long as the watchmakers regulate the movement.

Example: I got a Seiko and it ran horribly, way outside Seikoโ€™s stated generous rate results. Sent it back to Seiko, they regulated it and now it runs fine. Seiko evidently does very little if any regulation in the factory. Funny part is that in the Seiko warranty, regulation is one of the first, if not the first, action they will take for warranty issues.

Be a lot better if they just regulated movements to begin with.

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I have the white dial version of this watch, and loads more that have this movement and they run great, Iโ€™m sure every so often a dud will slip through the net, luckily I havenโ€™t got one yet

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NH35 are great and Iโ€™ve handily regulated all mine to 0 spd. The performance is consistent too. Funny that so many complain about poor accuracy on their new watches - when it takes 2 minutes to fix with very few tools. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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StevieC54

The movement itself is OK, as long as the watchmakers regulate the movement.

Example: I got a Seiko and it ran horribly, way outside Seikoโ€™s stated generous rate results. Sent it back to Seiko, they regulated it and now it runs fine. Seiko evidently does very little if any regulation in the factory. Funny part is that in the Seiko warranty, regulation is one of the first, if not the first, action they will take for warranty issues.

Be a lot better if they just regulated movements to begin with.

Yep absolutely. Falling in love with their own popularity a bit this last decade. Beginning to become known for quantity over quality it seems.

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tom_swe

NH35 are great and Iโ€™ve handily regulated all mine to 0 spd. The performance is consistent too. Funny that so many complain about poor accuracy on their new watches - when it takes 2 minutes to fix with very few tools. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Yep small gripe. Besides... As someone above suggested. Being 10spd out a day still equates to approx 99% accuracy when you take into account how many seconds there are in 24 hours!!