Can I ask about the Breitling Superocean

I think the design is pretty cool, it' based on a 1960's  Breitling model called the slow motion chronograph. The movement is a Selitta sw200 & considering the price of this watch, it is a point of contention. This movement can be found in swiss watches costing a quarter of the price of the Brietling & they have previously used Tudor movements in the heritage Superocean so they can do better. I really like these but wouldn't pay full retail for one!

The best thing going for this model is variety of colours and sizes they make ,I agree the price is a little high but as there available you can always ask for discount 

Looks are subjective, but I am not a fan of the very large chapter ring or the square tip on the minute hand. I do like the color ways though and the new bracelet and clasp look very good.

As Warrior75 mentioned, the sticking point for me is having an off shelf Movt in the this price range even if Breitling modifies it and it a COSC tag. 

I have the previous version Super Ocean 42 which also had a Selitta Movt but it was heck of lot less money so it wasn't a prob for me. 

Yeah the movement is a let down. my knowledge in movements isn’t great admittedly but when the AD dodged the question I knew it wasn’t a great sign.

 @Oldmanwatches its ironic because of all the combinations, the one I want they don’t do. I loved the Green but that doesn’t come in 42mm 🤦🏻‍♂️
 

@DeepCmonkey I actually confused the minute and hour hands at first! 

Also on the price point - it is high but I think we have to accept that post covid we can’t keep comparing prices to what they were in general (not only watches). It’s only going to keep going one way for a while. Definitely will be seeking a discount if I do decide to buy tho!

I think it doesn't look bad. It has an unique appear.

But I personall don' like the shrinked dial. What I love on watche are wide clean diales.

In my opinion the previous modrl looks much better.

But for both I wouldn't pay the retail price.

As a better alternative in case of price vallue ratio is the Rado Captain Cook.

You can go for the standard model for just around 2,2K or the High Tech Ceramic model which you can easy find for 3,6 K. The whole case is made of unscratchable ceramic.

It contains a modified Powermatic 80 which is easy to care, reliable, accurate, cheap in service and gives you even 80 hrs of power reserve.

The actual movement is quite good, it’s just inexpensive Compared to the overall price And has an anemic power reserve (if that matters to you). 
 

I do really like the design, and would happily have this watch in my collection, however I likely won’t due to the lack of value proposition vs a desire to keep a limited number of watches in my collection. 
 

Hopefully they will continue to develop this line by improving the movement and maybe making the square on the minute hand more diminutive. 

Man, I love so much about this watch.  The big bezel, the chapter ring, the proportions, and even the movement is better than they're representing.

But.....

https://youtu.be/3rYoRaxgOE0

I absolutely love this watch!  And I love the fact that the movement is based on a Sellita.  

• When I started out, I bought 2 Breitlings - the Premier B01 and the AVI 1953 - each boasting in-house calibers
• Both chronographs broke within one month of purchase, and both were purchased brand new
• I've said this many, many, many times before every time this comes up, but I would take a "workhorse" movement over an in-house 8 days a week - full rant below
• This Superocean is the one watch in the Breitling catalogue that really speaks to me

Begin rant...

• I would take an ETA or Sellita or Seiko or Miyota movement over an "in-house" 8 days a week
• "Workhorse movements" have shown their reliability and quality in real-world, empirical, day-to-day use and abuse, for decades on end now
• Parts are plentiful, any competent watch-maker is equipped to work on them, it's all relatively cheap to maintain, etc., etc.
• The only reason that manufacturers are touting "in-house" movements is because the Swatch Group bought up all the movement manufacturers coming out of the quartz crisis, and then wanted to put all their competitors out of business by no longer supplying them with ETA movements, etc.  Unfortunately, the Swiss government stepped in to prevent free commerce.  As a result, all these manufacturers had to move in-house, and their marketing tells you that in-house is better
• But, if in-house is better, why do in-house movements cost so much more?  As a business guy, my hypothesis is this:  "I gotta charge you a ton upfront, to cover all the downstream warranty costs I gotta eat, when the movement fails you!"

Yeah that was my thoughts too. I’m sure the movement is respectable but at this price point you kinda want a little bit more. 
The AD offered to throw in the rubber strap, some breitling goodies and a free service instead of an upfront price discount. I’d say that’s a fair deal. But touching £4k is a bit too far for me on this watch. 

It is a very attractive watch. The finishing looked good too and had a real wow factor that I didn’t expect. I only wore for a short while but the bracelet felt well made and comfortable and the watch sat very nicely. Well balanced and ‘right’. 

As I mentioned I’m not very big on my movement knowledge, but for me in-house just means the brand has spent some time in developing a movement which they feel is right for the watch they are producing. The quality of both watch and movement should be at an equal footing if that makes sense. 
It can feel like paying a premium for the logo when watches are priced above a certain level without in-house movements. 
(I’m speaking generally now and not solely about this watch).

Yes.  Agreed!

Just my opinion, but the whole "in-house" movement thing is a bit of a red-herring, honestly.  

The ONLY reason that every Swiss manufacturer moved to in-house is because Swatch Group tried to put everyone out of business, but were stopped from doing so.  When it comes to complex mechanical components, to make something that will last 10, 20, 30, 40 years, and beyond requires MASSIVE fixed cost R&D investment.  When that happens, you end up with "natural monopolies."  

Here are some other examples of natural monopolies:

• Microsoft Windows
• Shimano bicycle drive trains
• ZF8 auto transmissions
• Google search

What these all have in common is massive fixed cost R&D investment, that is then amortized over large numbers of units / transactions.  

When you try to create "in-house" alternatives, you end up utter crap - even if you have extremely deep pockets.  Back in the day, when IBM was a giant, they tried to come up with an alternative to Microsoft's OS, and created OS/2.  Utter crap and it died an ignominious death.  

Sram is trying to compete with Shimano, but their drive trains really only sell to a niche market.

Check out the Nissan CVT transmission.  If you Google it, the entire first page of results will link to class action lawsuits.  Arguably, CVT is why Nissan is considered such a lemon Japanese auto brand!

So, with all that said, I see the Sellita-based caliber in the Superocean, and I think...

Haha. Fair enough it’s hard to argue with that logic. As it’s a no-date I don’t mind having to set the time before wearing it every few days or so. I just find setting the date annoying don’t ask me why. And I’m not working in any field where I can’t afford to be 5 seconds late so accuracy is fine for me too. 
Damn I think I might buy one you know.. 😅😅

I paid $1800 AUD for my Sinn 104 with an SW 200 Selita movement so , yes I like the watch but no , not at the price point they are asking ( gouging ) . If it was $3K Yeah , nuh , maybe 🤔

Very much looks like this Citizen…

Yes exactly. The price point is the major stumbling block. At £3k I would have most likely bought it..

I love it

It’s a great watch. I just feel it’s a bit overpriced.

Hi, I have a couple of Superoceans the 2021 model wears really well and is a lovely fit on my large wrist. Time keeping is as expected and it’s a great tool watch

It's a beautiful watch, but I like the older design. This looks like a few other watches. I would save a little

I swear I'm slowly starting to want a Superocean. So of course I've been looking at comparable watches like the Islander.

This one is the next big purchase for me later this year. Love it. Don't care what anyone else thinks. 🤣

Got it with the white face with both rubber and steel straps lovely watch just clean sharp and gorgeous!

You will enjoy it I’m sure