Grand Seiko Bracelets

Morning Crunchers. Does anybody have hands on ownership with the GS Snowflake. I am looking to add one to my collection and I have tried one on many times in store. But as we all know this does not compare to actual ownership.

GS bracelets are pretty much considered a let down for the entire package. My concern is not being able to get a good sizing fit to my 6 half ish wrist size. you see many people putting them on leather! Are the bracelets that bad. Any owner comments on GS bracelets welcome. thanks  

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I’m not 100% sure, but I imagine @HotWatchChick69 could help you. 

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See, that just seems lazy on Seiko’s part. They insist on treating normal things like they’re impossible. There’s just no reason a titanium bracelet can’t have screwed links, I own a Steinhart that does. And the tolerances aren’t good?  How does a company that spends 6 bajillion hours polishing a watch case decide a nice bracelet is out of the question?  GS are some of the Seikos I would still consider buying, but it’s really disappointing that for $6k I can’t expect a high quality bracelet. 

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Don't have a snowflake but do have a couple of other (steel) GS on bracelets. To get the correct fitment - it's important to note that the half links are not half but more like two thirds - which actually gives you way more options when you combine them in different ways. (Too early in the morning to go through the maths of this). It was someone on WC who pointed this out and it was a game changer in terms of getting perfect fitment (apologies - can't remember who it was).

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Al_Ra_Ra

Don't have a snowflake but do have a couple of other (steel) GS on bracelets. To get the correct fitment - it's important to note that the half links are not half but more like two thirds - which actually gives you way more options when you combine them in different ways. (Too early in the morning to go through the maths of this). It was someone on WC who pointed this out and it was a game changer in terms of getting perfect fitment (apologies - can't remember who it was).

That's great. Just what I needed to know. So in theory I should be able to tweak the links to give me the fit I'm looking for 

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thekris

See, that just seems lazy on Seiko’s part. They insist on treating normal things like they’re impossible. There’s just no reason a titanium bracelet can’t have screwed links, I own a Steinhart that does. And the tolerances aren’t good?  How does a company that spends 6 bajillion hours polishing a watch case decide a nice bracelet is out of the question?  GS are some of the Seikos I would still consider buying, but it’s really disappointing that for $6k I can’t expect a high quality bracelet. 

I agree with @thekris in this. A compatible as big as Seiko and their abilities, they should be able to implement screws rather than pins. Also a micro adjustment in the clasp. I did bring this up with my local boutique and they claimed GS will never have micro adjust in clap like Omega or Rolex as they want the slim bracelet look 

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Thanks @MegaBob. The bracelets are definitely a let down in the GS stable. I think half the battle is that we compare to other brands most us own, like Omega and Rolex. It's easy to hold GS to account, and rightly so. They should be doing a better job if they want to be considered on same level. I think they struggle with the fit on the leather deployment clasps also. My Gs elegance strap and fit with the deployment is annoying at times.

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The deployment clasp itself is lovely, I think gremlin is more towards the leather, which is very quality bit hardly any give or flexibility. Maybe I should switch it out 👍

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My quartz SBGX063 bracelet is good. However I agree that for best fitment, invest in the half links even if they are expensive. I got two and now its perfect.

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I saw a watch YouTuber defend the jangly GS bracelets, arguing that the looser tolerances allow the bracelet to breathe and conform to the wrist more comfortably. Which we all know isn't true, because there exists other high-quality bracelets milled to tight tolerances that are superbly comfortable.

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I recently got the Shunbun and while the bracelet is not the star of the show here, i don’t see it as a let down (even compared to the bracelet of my speedy which is the only one I own in the same price range). The real let down for me is the lack of microadjust as my wrist seems to gain/lose multiple cm per day and there is nothing I can easily do about it. That said, this is nothing vs my love for this watch (still in honey moon phase) 🥰🥰🥰

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robbits

I saw a watch YouTuber defend the jangly GS bracelets, arguing that the looser tolerances allow the bracelet to breathe and conform to the wrist more comfortably. Which we all know isn't true, because there exists other high-quality bracelets milled to tight tolerances that are superbly comfortable.

You e nailed my feeling on this. It’s not that I want GS to be like Rolex or anybody else, but that’s no excuse for being bad. And at those prices, anything less than great is bad.  These guys are so thoughtful with some things they do, so I know what’s possible. But man, I’m some respects they just refuse to even try. It’s mystifying. 
 

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When buying GS, one must truly accept that you are buying the watch, movement, finishing and innovation, but not the bracelet.

and I truly believe, if theres any improvement to their bracelets, most of us wont be able to afford them then

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Gauthier

I recently got the Shunbun and while the bracelet is not the star of the show here, i don’t see it as a let down (even compared to the bracelet of my speedy which is the only one I own in the same price range). The real let down for me is the lack of microadjust as my wrist seems to gain/lose multiple cm per day and there is nothing I can easily do about it. That said, this is nothing vs my love for this watch (still in honey moon phase) 🥰🥰🥰

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I love this watch. It looks so good in the pics but wearing it, the bracelet fit and feel actually stopped me buying it. For now I’ll just admire GS dials from a distance..

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I have a Winter, so a titanium bracelet and a GMT with a stainless steel. I don’t find them jangly, but these are bracelets that I will only have my AD adjust. You do need to take advantage of the 2/3 links to get a good fit. Once done they are comfortable to me, but I’d like easy micro adjustments. Overall Winter is one of my most comfortable watches for most of the day, a little tight in the evening 

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I own the SBGA229G Spring Drive Diver and the bracelet is joy. The quality and finish is excellent and comparable to some of my other bracelets (Omega, TAG, Tudor). The one let down, in my opinion is the quality of the clasp, the materials used just don't match up to the rest of the watch. It feels quite cheap and delicate, compared to say the clasp on my Planet Ocean or Black Bay. That said it doesn't particularly bother me, as the positives with the watch far outweigh the only slight negative (being the clasp). Hope this helps! 😀

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