Who am I? (AKA, an existential crisis brought on by the GS SBGK015)

This just arrived the other day… 

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It’s absolutely stunning.  GS does dials.  GS does dials arguably better than anyone does dials.  

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And, in this particular case, GS has done a dial that is more Liberace-inspired than any other dial in the entirety of their extensive collection - certainly more glittery than any other dial in my collection.  

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Amongst GS enthusiasts, folks seem to be foaming at the mouth to get their hands on this watch.  There was one listed for $11,995 on Chrono24.  It ain't there anymore.  It's possible that dude had taken too much high-quality hashish and then came to his senses, but every example of the 300 piece, $7,500 MSRP, limited-run was allocated within hours of announcement by GS.  So it’s very possible that he did get his ~$4,500 profit margin.  Though, there’s also every possibility that GS USA will track this guy down for flipping, and immediately bring down the ban-hammer!  Moving forward, they’d revoke his VIP status, and never allocate any rare LE pieces to him ever again.

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Other than Chrono24, the only recourse for the GS nut who wants something like this is to buy the pale imitation of this watch - the SBGK017…

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… whose only virtues are its unlimited production, its grey dial, and its having a higher MSRP at $8,900!!!

Nonetheless, the SBGK015 now has me asking…

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  • I always thought I was someone who didn’t give two sh*ts about arbitrary status markers, like getting access to exclusives and limited editions, and yet here I am relishing the fact that there are only 299 other people on the face of the planet with this particular watch
  • I always thought that I was an athletic and outdoorsy and rugged individual, and yet here I am enamored with a “dress watch.”  I mean, at least with all the other GS in my collection, I could lie to myself and pretend that I were still young and virile, by pointing to the fact that all my watches have at least 100M water resistance, so, you know, I could go diving with them, even though I take them off when I’m giving my puppies baths, which is about the extent of my physical activity these days…  and, yet, here, undeniably, this dress watch cannot handle anything more than a light splash while doing dishes!  I mean, the reality is that I doubt I would wear a dress watch, for fear of water damage, while sitting at my computer, inside my home office, if it were raining outside - you can never be too careful about these things!
  • I always thought that I was bold and wild, born with a devil-may-care attitude.  When I used to be a car guy, I would use my performance car as my daily driver, scrape the crap out of the front wing and the diffuser, dare to park it in, you know, the Walmart parking lot where some harried father of 3 looking for a party-size bag of Cheetos and some WD-40 might swing open his door while arguing with his wife about whose turn it was to clean out the septic tank, and ding my car!  I used to scoff at all the clowns who after 2 years had put only 3,000 miles on their odometers.  “Why would someone buy a car and not use it?  That’s no way to live!” I would snigger, “Who are all these people who buy garage queens???" as I condescendingly typed “I have over 50,000 miles on mine after 2 years,” showing the world just how courageous a keyboard warrior I was, on the car forums.  And yet, with the acquisition of the SBGK015, I am now contemplating simply leaving the watch wrapped in plastic, and putting it away in my safe to only admire it, now and again, while handling it with white microfiber gloves on

“@hotwatchchick69, stop being an idiot, and just wear the watch,” you might say.  To you, I respond, "Are you insane???  That might reduce its resale value!  I mean, that’s why we got into watches, right?  Value retention and investment!”  

Who am I?  What have I become?  

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Too long for me to read but you got me staring at that sexiness…

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Also are you losing your seeds man!! 
 

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So when is this piece going for auction 😉😜

also if your coming to the NY WC meet and wear this gorgeous piece, I will def. Be there to admire the precious!!! 

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When HWC thinks of a piece as an investment.

The rest of us:

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But... do you actually love the watch?? You talk about liking it being limited edition, about resale, about keeping it safe, about the dial looking good.... But...

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Honestly, I felt more fireworks and chemistry from your posts about...

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Weirdly, I felt the same about @faisals post on this watch "pretty happy" was how he described his feelings about it. Seems like damning with faint praise. 

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Scooby

When HWC thinks of a piece as an investment.

The rest of us:

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Ichibunz

Too long for me to read but you got me staring at that sexiness…

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Also are you losing your seeds man!! 
 

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So when is this piece going for auction 😉😜

also if your coming to the NY WC meet and wear this gorgeous piece, I will def. Be there to admire the precious!!! 

Can't do NYC.  Wife doesn't want to leave the kids behind, and I refuse to go anywhere with those savages!

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Sell it, it's your only hope.

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You need watch detox, in a closed facility where everyone wears an FW91, paints with watercolors, talks about their childhood, and blames their mother for their first watch. 😁

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At least you can take it out of the safe, styrofoam padding, box, plastic wrap, and gently move the stickers to the side to bathe the puppies.

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DeeperBlue

But... do you actually love the watch?? You talk about liking it being limited edition, about resale, about keeping it safe, about the dial looking good.... But...

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Honestly, I felt more fireworks and chemistry from your posts about...

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Weirdly, I felt the same about @faisals post on this watch "pretty happy" was how he described his feelings about it. Seems like damning with faint praise. 

You know what it's like?  In my younger days, I lived in NYC, and somehow started hanging out with this gal, Nykki.  She was perhaps the most conventionally good-looking gal I had ever come across, but she had this habit of talking incessantly about MTV's "Road Rules" which caused her already marginal personality to go from the "just okay" bucket to falling down to the "super shallow and annoying" bucket.

The SBGK015 is the Nykki of my watch collection.  Look at that, it's the most conventionally good-looking of all my watches!

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You know what's funny is that everyone complains about how thick GS watches are.  This watch is too thin!  I want a thicc watch!  14mm thickness is just about right.  And I feel self-conscious wearing it.  It's too ostentatious.  And it keeps asking me to take it out to the most expensive sushi restaurant in town.

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Mr.Dee.Bater

Can't do NYC.  Wife doesn't want to leave the kids behind, and I refuse to go anywhere with those savages!

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Haha! im in the same boat…I’m hoping the wife will change her mind 😂

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Lie down on my couch and let me get you a couple downers to take with this glass of scotch and water I just poured you. They will help you feel better…old chap. 

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Tell the wife you plan to do a live auction at the NYC meetup.  Not of your children, but of this watch.  

Also, this is why you should get the SLGH009.  It’s not as dressy, but still gorgeous, less than 12mm thin, with 100M of WR AND a screw down crown.   And obvi the dial is stunning.  

I know I know, it‘s not a spring drive.  But it is the new 9SA5 which is just sexy as hell.  My AD still has one in stock 😎

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thekris

Sell it, it's your only hope.

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Yeah, that sounds like the right answer.  But, gotta wait a while, otherwise I'd get designated as a flipper, and...

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another crazy dial along the same line as your GS

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Or wear it and enjoy it🤷

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Mr.Dee.Bater

I still remember a comment @thiago made that was absolutely brilliant:

Let me understand the idea of ​​exclusivity in our sphere:

  1. Take 100% of the human population 7.9 B;
  2. People who collect watches: 0.0001% of item 1;
  3. People who collect luxury watches: 0.01% of item 2;
  4. People who collect Grand Seikos: 0.01% of item 3;
  5. People who expect that their Grand Seikos are limited editions: 0.1% of item 4 (yes @Omeganut , I am talking to you here! 😜);

If any brand makes a run of 5000 pieces there is a big chance that you are the only person in your town that owns that watch anyways. The city I live in has 5.9M humans (2016) and I never saw a wrist and thought "Hey I have/had the same watch" and trust me I notice that stuff.

For collectors looking into exclusivity, there are countless ways to have that:

  • Vintage;
  • Geographically, for example, Seikos JDMs, or someone from east Europe wearing a Hamilton or someone from North America wearing a Rado/Mido (Swatch group splits their market geographically);
  • Micro/Boutique brands;
  • Non-luxury limited editions (BTW Zelos Released a new LIMITED run of comet line, gorgeous and I also can mention Kurono Tokyo with their 10 min request window);

Speaking of exclusivity and limited-editions-we-don't-need-to-play-the-hunger-games-to-get-one. Look this!

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https://www.fratellowatches.com/seiko-prospex-alpinist-spb355j1-rock-face/

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curtaincall

Time for another name change #GrandSeikonut

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Is that yours???  Did you get the SBGA413???

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thiago

Speaking of exclusivity and limited-editions-we-don't-need-to-play-the-hunger-games-to-get-one. Look this!

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https://www.fratellowatches.com/seiko-prospex-alpinist-spb355j1-rock-face/

Dude!  You getting it???

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Mr.Dee.Bater

Is that yours???  Did you get the SBGA413???

She's actually my first high end watch purchase hehe

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Mr.Dee.Bater

I do remember your post!  So, you did sell it?  

I think you've hit the nail on the head.  I don't baby any of my watches.  I've got scratches and gouges on all of them.  But, somehow, because the SBGK015 is a "dress watch" it feels different - like it would be sacrilegious or something.  So, what this says is that if a company markets a $7,500 watch as a "sports watch" it's okay to ding it up.  But, if that $7,500 watch is marketed as a "dress watch," then we need to baby it.

Too funny.

yep, and I don’t regret selling. It’s a funny one with dress watches. I agree they won’t look good dinged up, I do question if the lake suwa would look okay after a few dings too due to that brushed bezel practically being a canvas waiting to be marked up. Better to just enjoy these things and not take it too seriously I guess.

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Putting aside the cry me a river identity crisis you are having, you made me stop for a second there and rub my eyes twice and reread "Scrape the FRONT WING" 

Were you taking your F1 car to Walmart?! 😂😂😂

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Bessio

Putting aside the cry me a river identity crisis you are having, you made me stop for a second there and rub my eyes twice and reread "Scrape the FRONT WING" 

Were you taking your F1 car to Walmart?! 😂😂😂

Come on, man!  There are all sorts of kits you can add to your daily beater now, for those of us who are "boy racers"!

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Yo, you ever watch "Drive to Survive" on Netflix?  I have exactly ZERO interest in watching cars go around a track.  But, it's only ostensibly about Formula 1.  A better name for the series would be "Real Housewives of Formula 1."  I mean, it's sooooooo catty and delicious!  The politics, the angst, the constant back-biting and passive-aggressive insults!  I love it!

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Real housewives for Formula 1 😂Dammit man, now I have no choice but to watch this stupid show.

But come on man, it's front splitter and not a front wing. you see how it's split 😂

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You can call me a boyracer wanna be, but I daily drive and beat the hell out of them. So I guess I'm walking in your footsteps and the moment I buy a GS I'll know for sure it's time to bathe some puppies 😘

Love you bro! 

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Bessio

Real housewives for Formula 1 😂Dammit man, now I have no choice but to watch this stupid show.

But come on man, it's front splitter and not a front wing. you see how it's split 😂

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You can call me a boyracer wanna be, but I daily drive and beat the hell out of them. So I guess I'm walking in your footsteps and the moment I buy a GS I'll know for sure it's time to bathe some puppies 😘

Love you bro! 

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Oh, sh*t!  You're right!  I don't know the correct car terminology - maybe that's why I never fit in on the car forums.  At least with watches, I know that the correct term is "Johnson Rod" for the rod that connects the crown to the movement.

Dude, is that your Corvette?  C8???

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Hahahaha Johnson rod. 

Never was a forum guy nor social BS guy either, until this amazing forum. I hate people 😂😂

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Yes that's my C8 HTC, but I'm an M4 guy at heart.

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Bessio

Hahahaha Johnson rod. 

Never was a forum guy nor social BS guy either, until this amazing forum. I hate people 😂😂

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Yes that's my C8 HTC, but I'm an M4 guy at heart.

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Awesome, man!!!  

I had an F87 M2 Competition in Hockenheim Silver.  Got it right when it came out.  Absolutely amazing car!  Never been so thrilled in my life to own something like it.  I even got the boy racer decals, man!

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It was the PERFECT car - 4 seater so whole family could fit in it, DCT transmission was absolutely amazing, even had wireless Apple Carplay!  

But, then, I made the mistake of getting onto car forums.  And it was fun at first...  but, over time, I discovered that it was such a toxic environment that I'd come to hate the BMW brand!  Like, every time I would see a bimmer, I would think to myself, "What a degenerate."  And I realized that the horrible people on the forums had made me come to associate the brand with toxic meatheads!  I ended up selling the car, because I couldn't look at it without feeling a sense of disgust!

That is how I then became a watch guy.  Like, I figured, "Hmmmm...  watches are nerdier than cars.  So, hopefully, you don't get the same meatheadedness."  And then, I saw Reddit's r/watches, and I was like...

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"Never gonna get on any watch forums!  They'll just ruin watches for me."

And, then, discovered WatchCrunch - which is the antithesis of r/watches and social media.  Love it here!

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Never ever been on forums fearing what your just described. Especially I didn't grow up here nor grew up able to afford my passion for BMWs or any cars actually just public transportation in Alexandria, Egypt. 

Not till I finished my residency and got my first big paycheck and my first big purchase was a base 335 in 2012 with 18% Interest rate as I didn't have any credit and I didn't care 😂

I have been going up the ladder since then. In between leases I change pace with corvettes and so on. 

Got into watches recently just before I found @Max and watch crunch. And this forum was a breeze of fresh air, I really love it and love all the nerds on here. I still can't break that barrier of 1 k for a watch! I broke that barrier on sneakers for fu@$ sake. Why not on watches I don't get it! Am I not a true watch enthusiast? Am I unconsciously pretending to love watches? Is it coz of my humble upbringing? or what is it exactly? 

What's killing me the Mrs is not into cars, watches nor sneakers, may be it's a blessing 😂

Sorry for the rant 🫣

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Mr.Dee.Bater

Awesome, man!!!  

I had an F87 M2 Competition in Hockenheim Silver.  Got it right when it came out.  Absolutely amazing car!  Never been so thrilled in my life to own something like it.  I even got the boy racer decals, man!

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It was the PERFECT car - 4 seater so whole family could fit in it, DCT transmission was absolutely amazing, even had wireless Apple Carplay!  

But, then, I made the mistake of getting onto car forums.  And it was fun at first...  but, over time, I discovered that it was such a toxic environment that I'd come to hate the BMW brand!  Like, every time I would see a bimmer, I would think to myself, "What a degenerate."  And I realized that the horrible people on the forums had made me come to associate the brand with toxic meatheads!  I ended up selling the car, because I couldn't look at it without feeling a sense of disgust!

That is how I then became a watch guy.  Like, I figured, "Hmmmm...  watches are nerdier than cars.  So, hopefully, you don't get the same meatheadedness."  And then, I saw Reddit's r/watches, and I was like...

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"Never gonna get on any watch forums!  They'll just ruin watches for me."

And, then, discovered WatchCrunch - which is the antithesis of r/watches and social media.  Love it here!

I just realized I didn't address 2 points in your comment as I got carried away with my own rant.

First, I had the same visceral reaction to people wearing Rolex, until I really got into watches and I came to appreciate those watches for what they are. Unfortunately, certain brands attracts more assholes than others. Does that mean we can't appreciate those brands and enjoy them?! 

You are much wiser man than me, which brings me to the second point.... 

How could you sell this beauty man?! She is beast disguised in a beautiful shell.. Come on 🤬!!!!!!!

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Wow, just wow…. Another stunning dial from Grand Seiko.  I always find myself speechless when looking at Grand Seiko dials 

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WatchesandSneakers

Wow, just wow…. Another stunning dial from Grand Seiko.  I always find myself speechless when looking at Grand Seiko dials 

Yeah, it really is quite unique!  Though...  it's a bit too blingy for me.  That is, I feel totally self-conscious wearing it out and about.  It's like walking around with red sneakers!

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