Oris vs omega

I sold some watches and I have a bit to buy a watch.

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oris aquis gmt brand new or planet ocean (preowned) but 2007 model

thoughts??

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Omega quality is WAY above Oris. IMHO, Oris is one of the most overpriced brands at MSRP for what you get, second only to TAG. 

Buy the Omega, trust me.

***Just noticed the 2007 part of the Omega deal. I would have to see service records. Have to be careful because the Omega fee to fully service that movement is going to run $1K+ if needs any new parts. If you have access to a local watchmaker who can actually get parts somehow, expect to pay 1/3-1/4 of what Omega would charge. 
 

if you go with Oris, don’t pay retail. They are overpriced  

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The Omega will hold value better than Oris. Which one are you drawn more towards. I own an Oris Artix and it gets more wrist time than any other watch in my collection but I personally love the look. Also I think Oris is the best value. You get a lot of quality for a lot less than others brands. I was never a fan of the Planet Ocean because I didn’t see anything unique about it. If these are the two you narrowed down I would probably get the Oris. BTW, I have an Omega as well and find both watch brands are equal quality  (Image failed to load!)(Image failed to load!)

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Hey there!  Here are some points for your consideration:

  • New, head-to-head, it's no contest in favor of Omega
  • However, given that the Planet Ocean is 2007, the proposition becomes significantly more fraught.  I think the PO 2007 comes with the calibre 2500 movement, and I've heard that Omega had some reliability issues with that particular calibre.  You know how they say never to buy the first model year of any new car?  I would imagine it's the same with mechanical movements in watches.  Those were early days for the co-axial design, and as you're trying to industrialize an entirely new design (first new industrialized escapement design in 250 years), you're going to run into some hiccups, right?  Potentially a minus in the PO column
  • The Oris Aquis GMT comes with a modified SW330-1 movement.  Sellita's are based on ETA, and these are workhorse, reliable, bullet-proof, easy and cheap-to-service movements.  Definitely a plus in the Oris column
  • The Oris also comes with a 3 year warranty, which I'm guessing is significantly longer than the warranty on the 2007 PO.  Another plus in the Oris column

I think in the end, the most apt analogy is looking at buying a car:

  • In one corner, you got a 2007 Porsche Boxster.  It's iconic.  It's cool.  It's got the brand recognition.  It's got the awesome six-cylinder boxer engine that makes 245-hp at 6500rpm.  However, the 2007 is also known for IMS issues, and any kind of failure would be a very, very, very expensive repair
  • In the other corner, you got a new Miata.  It's got the workhorse 2.0L 4-cylinder engine that EVERY car nowadays comes with.  It's got a warranty.  It's new and guaranteed to last you a long, long time.  It ain't a Porsche, but it's a great, great driver's car

When it comes to used cars, personally, I am very wary.  I'm incredibly averse to maintenance and service headaches of any sort whatsoever.  As such, unless the Boxster belonged to my grandma, who I know only drove it 3 blocks each day to the grocery store, and maintained it religiously, my choice would be the new Miata 8 days a week.

Hope that's helpful!

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Head to head with both being new the PO is a no brainer'

In this case, with the PO being 15 years old, questions arise. What condition is it in? Service history? Reputable seller? How many previous owners? (if there are more than 2 I'd question why is was passed on so often) Are you willing to shell out nearly the cost of the Oris (assuming you can get a discount of 10-20%) for a watch no longer under warranty?

I'd probably go for a brand new,under warranty Oris.

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IMO, hard to go wrong w/ either wrist wear choice..if the service history of the Omega is good, I wouldn't be afraid of it..remember, choose what you think looks best!!...good luck hunting!!..

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I'd go for YOUR Oris rather than someone else's Omega from 2007.

I have to disagree with the notion that Oris is overpriced. You can usually get a decent discount on them, and they punch above their weight. I'm not aware of anything in a similar price range to the Aquis that offers such a phenomenal bracelet, for example.

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I'd choose the Omega. No way I'd ever get an Oris, unless it was 60-70% off, which is hardly realistic. To me, however, they're Certina-quality on the outside, Glycine-quality on the inside, priced higher than a Longines, and that's just no good in terms of bang for the buck. I know, it might be an unpopular opinion, but to me, they're just not worth it. That doesn't mean they're bad watches. They're good, just viciously overpriced. That's just the way I see it. That I wouldn't buy one doesn't mean that you shouldn't. 

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Do you need to get the GMT? I think Oris becomes even more compelling when looking at their new Aquis Caliber 400. I had an older Aquis and was blown away by the quality and performance over 6+ years with zero issues and a ton of hard wearing & abuse. While I’d recommend not paying retail for the Oris (they are plentiful online at big discounts), I still believe the brand provides a ton of value.

Omega is certainly the higher quality brand still. But an old chunky PO vs a new Oris is a tough call.

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I own a few Omega models and one Oris (the Aquis Great Barrier Reef III). 

I would have to say that the fit and finish of the Omegas is superior to that of my Oris, but when the difference in MSRP is taken into consideration, the Oris is pretty impressive from that standpoint.

I purchased my Oris brand new in 2019 (with an appropriate discount), and had to send it in for a warranty repair within the first year for a winding issue (it felt very "gritty" when winding).  The only real issue I have with it now is the accuracy, running at slightly over +10SPD.

For comparison, I also have an Omega SMP (2255.80.00 with "Electric Blue" wave dial), which has an in-service date of 2008. I purchased this one pre-owned in 2020, paying just $25 more than what I had paid for the Oris. Since then, I have had to have the bezel ring and crown replaced, which added another $250 to the overall cost. The SMP keeps time well within COSC specs, gaining between 1-2 SPD.

Based on current asking prices, my SMP appears to be worth approximately $1,000 more than my Oris,  which more than makes up for the additional service costs.

As others have mentioned, Oris watches tend to not hold their value, so if you aren't planning on keeping it forever, you may want to look into pre-owned Oris as well.

There is obviously a benefit in having a full warranty, but if you can find a good pre-owned example that has either been recently serviced, or priced well enough to allow for a full servicing,  a pre-owned Omega PO would be my personal suggestion.

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Mr.Dee.Bater

Hey there!  Here are some points for your consideration:

  • New, head-to-head, it's no contest in favor of Omega
  • However, given that the Planet Ocean is 2007, the proposition becomes significantly more fraught.  I think the PO 2007 comes with the calibre 2500 movement, and I've heard that Omega had some reliability issues with that particular calibre.  You know how they say never to buy the first model year of any new car?  I would imagine it's the same with mechanical movements in watches.  Those were early days for the co-axial design, and as you're trying to industrialize an entirely new design (first new industrialized escapement design in 250 years), you're going to run into some hiccups, right?  Potentially a minus in the PO column
  • The Oris Aquis GMT comes with a modified SW330-1 movement.  Sellita's are based on ETA, and these are workhorse, reliable, bullet-proof, easy and cheap-to-service movements.  Definitely a plus in the Oris column
  • The Oris also comes with a 3 year warranty, which I'm guessing is significantly longer than the warranty on the 2007 PO.  Another plus in the Oris column

I think in the end, the most apt analogy is looking at buying a car:

  • In one corner, you got a 2007 Porsche Boxster.  It's iconic.  It's cool.  It's got the brand recognition.  It's got the awesome six-cylinder boxer engine that makes 245-hp at 6500rpm.  However, the 2007 is also known for IMS issues, and any kind of failure would be a very, very, very expensive repair
  • In the other corner, you got a new Miata.  It's got the workhorse 2.0L 4-cylinder engine that EVERY car nowadays comes with.  It's got a warranty.  It's new and guaranteed to last you a long, long time.  It ain't a Porsche, but it's a great, great driver's car

When it comes to used cars, personally, I am very wary.  I'm incredibly averse to maintenance and service headaches of any sort whatsoever.  As such, unless the Boxster belonged to my grandma, who I know only drove it 3 blocks each day to the grocery store, and maintained it religiously, my choice would be the new Miata 8 days a week.

Hope that's helpful!

I feel the same way.  After all, the previous owner sold it for some reason, and I’m a little afraid to find out what that reason was.

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With little bit more money I would chose Omega. If you will buy Oris, you will dream about Omega. If you will buy Omega you will forget Oris...

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Oris make great watches but their movements let them down imo. Right now you can choose between the new calibre 400, which is an exciting movement but with some flaws that need to be ironed out (the jump in the minute hand when you set the time; the rotor also doesn't seem to deliver enough power so you have to manually wind a lot); or the selita 200 version for which they use the base grade and don't seem to do a very good job of regulation.

If they can improve the calibre 400 I think Oris will really be a brand to watch over the next few years, but for now I'd pass and go for the trusty Omega.

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I believe I read that a lot of the 2500 Omega movements are getting automatically replaced when they are sent in to Omega service. I’m not sure I would worry about potential issues with the original movement if you’re likely to get a brand new improved movement in the watch during service.