"Swiss Quartz" Movements

I just bought and returned a Tissot Everytime quartz:

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It was a lovely watch but the seconds hand never aligned with any of the markers on the dial. At all. Zero, nada, zip.

Very dissappointing.

The description just says "Swiss Quartz" with no make/model given for this (bad) movement. I just trusted that Tissot would get it right like my much cheaper Casio Duro and Timex Weekender both manage.

I trusted wrong.

So now I'm looking at this Iron Annie Bauhaus:

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It says the movement is an ETA F06.111. Can anyone reassure me that this isn't the same cheap movement Tissot is using, or that this ETA is good?

I know I'd rather have the automatic, but it is just beyond my budget right now. I'd rather it say Junkers, too, but it seems the ones in the US get the Iron Annie name.

I mean, I really want a Junghans Max Bill, but that's WAY beyond my budget.

Anyway, thanks for any info/warnings/good news.

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I ,also, fell into the Tissot "Everytime" trap a few years ago when they were first introduced. Big mistake. I thought it was cool that an established Swiss brand was offering a "budget" model.

Not sure what Swiss movement they use, but it is absolute garbage. In all the years I've been collecting it's the only watch I trashed.

You live-you learn.

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That should be a pretty solid movement that hits the indices. I had a Tissot PR100 Chronometer using essentially the same movement. Much better than the movement in the Everytime. I had one of those as well, and not only did the second hand miss the indices, it bounced like it was made of rubber. You should have much better luck with the ETA F06.111.

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foghorn

I ,also, fell into the Tissot "Everytime" trap a few years ago when they were first introduced. Big mistake. I thought it was cool that an established Swiss brand was offering a "budget" model.

Not sure what Swiss movement they use, but it is absolute garbage. In all the years I've been collecting it's the only watch I trashed.

You live-you learn.

I like that; the "Everytime Trap!" I would also include the Quickster in that trap category. That is the one with all the basketball team logos.

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LumegaudAnar

That should be a pretty solid movement that hits the indices. I had a Tissot PR100 Chronometer using essentially the same movement. Much better than the movement in the Everytime. I had one of those as well, and not only did the second hand miss the indices, it bounced like it was made of rubber. You should have much better luck with the ETA F06.111.

Thanks!

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I expected the Tissot to be a better-built Swatch. A SS case, sapphire, hacking Swatch. It wasn’t even that.

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For me it was my Duro that couldn't quite hit the marks. Probably why I sold it.

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A number of things go into a seconds hand of a quartz watch hitting the marks. The minute marks have to be evenly distributed on the minute track. This is actually rather common problem in my experience, meaning the seconds hand will miss some marks but not others.

Otherwise Swatch has little excuse in this regard, as robotic assembly is more or less the only way to guarantee alignment, in addition to using a quality movement.

My PRX doesn´t have perfect alignment, but it is at least consistent. The ETA F06.115 is an okay movement. The best alignment I have had were with my Seiko quartz watches.

Was your issue with the movement solely that it didn’t line up with the markers? Most of the Tissots I’ve bought have done a good job aligning. But I do realize that the only way to have every watch align perfectly is to completely automate the assembly line. That’s why large companies and watches that are produced in large quantities line up. And watches produced in smaller quantities don’t, because they are using actually people. It’s a small consolation, but even if the hands don’t lineup, it doesn’t mean the movement is not as accurate. With an affordable Swiss watch, the question might be. Do you want a watch that lines up perfectly or one that is hand built?

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Quartz and alignment? Good luck. Not even my issued CWC G10 manages to pull that off. It’s luck of the draw. Does it tell time? Then it’s fine.

ETA are Swatch-owned, but the movements and parts can be made anywhere. Welcome to capitalism, where all we care about is $$$.

With regards to that particular low-end Tissot, it is very much bottom of the barrel when considering other offers within the Swatch Group. To paraphrase the boat captain from Glass Onion: “[watch] is pieceoshite”. Tissot do better watches for the money if you look around or pay a little more, and you could have bought a vintage one (or two) that would have seen you better.

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If you want Quartz you have to go with either Seiko or Casio. Citizen also has pretty great Quartz movements tbh.

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Well, maybe purchase your next quartz watch in person, so it can be examined before pulling the trigger?

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The quartz movement from a Bulova Precisionist never misses the indices because the second hand sweeps like a mechanical movement watch.

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My analog quartz watches range from $35 - $300. I won't pay more than that for a quartz watch so I know perfection is an unrealistic expectation. Only two, a Citizen and my Lunar Pilot (can't really tell on the subdial to be honest), hit every marker exactly on the money. At first it bothered me, but then I decided there were more important things in life to worry about. They all do their job and I enjoy them for grab and go, church, and travel. If they were crazy off on every marker it might bother me more, but they are only slightly off on a few of the markers.

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I own 2 Tissot's. They are automatics, Seastar 1000 and Bridgeport chrono. I also spent about $700 for each watch. Everything is perfect on both dials. I would hate to think Tissot would reduce their quality at any price. Thanks for making me aware since I was thinking of buying a quartz Tissot for a beater watch.

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Alignment is my biggest problem with quartz watches. I have a Tissot PR100 GMT that has some markers not lining up. Stick with mechanicals.

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Wifethinksimnuts

Well, maybe purchase your next quartz watch in person, so it can be examined before pulling the trigger?

I’d love to. But here in Memphis the options are either walmart/target/etc or jewelry stores that start way out of my price range. So online with good return policies it is.

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EricsEverydayWatches

Was your issue with the movement solely that it didn’t line up with the markers? Most of the Tissots I’ve bought have done a good job aligning. But I do realize that the only way to have every watch align perfectly is to completely automate the assembly line. That’s why large companies and watches that are produced in large quantities line up. And watches produced in smaller quantities don’t, because they are using actually people. It’s a small consolation, but even if the hands don’t lineup, it doesn’t mean the movement is not as accurate. With an affordable Swiss watch, the question might be. Do you want a watch that lines up perfectly or one that is hand built?

I don’t expect perfection. But the seconds hand on this one missed all the markers.

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I normally stray away from Swiss quartz. I have Tissot T-race quartz which uses a ETA quartz movement that is present even on Tag quartz chronographs. The watch just misses 12 and 1 hour marker but aligns with every other hour marker. Doesn't bother me much but I purchased a Tissot Gold PRX for my girlfriend and that watch kept missing half the hour markers, I got a replacement after I took it back under warranty and the replacement also misses couple of hour markers before 12 which was atleast slightly better.

Imo, if you are going for quartz watch then you are better off with a japanese quartz. Cheaper as well as better at hitting the markets. My Casio duro and a old Timex with miyota quartz hit the markers everytime. Plus if you are spending more than $200 on a quartz, get a Citizen Ecodrive or Seiko Solar.

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It's not a bug it is feature. As I understand quarts movements, the second hand doesn't have tension all time but just when motor have signal from integration circuit and move hand. So second hand have some tolerance in end position.

Some high-end movements have dedicated spring that hold second hand aligned with markers. Like Grand Seiko 9F.

MrPsionic

I don’t expect perfection. But the seconds hand on this one missed all the markers.

Oh… that’s understandable. I need them to hit 90% or better. 😁