The End Of The Integrated Craze?

Are you over integrated bracelets? Had a jolly good chat with @AndrewMorgan and his accomplice Tom about this topic. Do you reserve a spot in the collection for an integrated bracelet watch?

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I hate bracelets, so I'm definitely OK with the trend going away.

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KristianG

I hate bracelets, so I'm definitely OK with the trend going away.

Interesting... Why? 😅

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It's a box after all the other boxes are done for me 😉

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I love changing straps. I don't care for integrated braclets on any warch. If it goes no tears shedding here.

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Max

Interesting... Why? 😅

I find bracelets combine the worst of all watch strap traits, and only have one redeeming quality. They are inflexible, hard to size correctly, prone to scratches, and prone to damaging clothes. Their only advantage is they last a long time.

I'd rather buy a new Erika's MN, or custom leather strap every couple of years, than deal with an ill fitting and inflexible slab of steel.

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Never will be done with integrated watch bracelets honestly 😂

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Franks

Never will be done with integrated watch bracelets honestly 😂

I think I found mine this week 😉

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Almost all of my watches have metal bands and my stance is that if a watch has a decent metal band then it is always better if the interface is designed with the case in mind, i.e. be "integrated" by means of a proprietary attachment system.

I've also said this before, the band is in my opinion the most important feature of a watch. It is more important than the dial, the movement or the case shape. It is the part that is most influences the wearing experience and its importance cannot be overstated to the point where I think (my personal opinion) that a watch whose band isn't well integrated with the case, be it by means of lug shape or through proprietary interfaces and connectors, isn't worth owning.

As the one that put the "genre" on the map, I don't think the Royal Oak will ever be "done". I certainly hope the trend never goes away.

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KristianG

I find bracelets combine the worst of all watch strap traits, and only have one redeeming quality. They are inflexible, hard to size correctly, prone to scratches, and prone to damaging clothes. Their only advantage is they last a long time.

I'd rather buy a new Erika's MN, or custom leather strap every couple of years, than deal with an ill fitting and inflexible slab of steel.

I've seen a lot of bad bracelets, but the hold ones really add to the package

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UnsignedCrown

Almost all of my watches have metal bands and my stance is that if a watch has a decent metal band then it is always better if the interface is designed with the case in mind, i.e. be "integrated" by means of a proprietary attachment system.

I've also said this before, the band is in my opinion the most important feature of a watch. It is more important than the dial, the movement or the case shape. It is the part that is most influences the wearing experience and its importance cannot be overstated to the point where I think (my personal opinion) that a watch whose band isn't well integrated with the case, be it by means of lug shape or through proprietary interfaces and connectors, isn't worth owning.

As the one that put the "genre" on the map, I don't think the Royal Oak will ever be "done". I certainly hope the trend never goes away.

Good watches can definitely be ruined by bad lug-bracelet interfaces 👍

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Of the two I have, a Seiko Arabic dial 5 and the Arken Instrumentum, I think they have their place.

They won't get as much wrist time as others, but they are fun to wear.

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I now have a PRX and enjoy it throughly. Trends come and go but never go away completely.

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Bracelets are the only way to go for me nowadays. Easy to wear and remove, completes the watch’s look and easy to match with just about anything. To design a bracelet that fits nicely with the watch is a difficult thing itself (imo).

Many of the “cons” listed here about bracelets being inflexible and hard to size correctly aren’t true if the bracelets are properly designed. It’s like saying leather straps are shit because all I’ve ever bought are low quality leather straps.

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Max

Good watches can definitely be ruined by bad lug-bracelet interfaces 👍

Yeah it’s very annoying when a watch offers a bracelet option where there’s no end links, just looks lazy and incomplete.

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Honestly never been a fan.

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I don't think of it as a box to check for me a watch can only fall in either of the following categories: nope, nice, meh, want

No prerequisites, doesn't have to be genta, doesn't have to be xyz brand etc. I only own one integrated watch and it was on a rubber strap the moment I could grab one.

In short, I didn't need an integrated bracelet watch, but I guess being the trend resulted in a lot of brands releasing their own models. Some of them were bound to be nice 🙂

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Coincidence that you released that video on the same day that #ChristopherWard released its new 36 mm Twelve?

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As you mentioned I also have a spot for that kind of watch in my collection but not decided yet which one. Have few in mind but either they are too expensive or some obtainable that don't make the cut.

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Pleasure to have you on with us good sir! Thank you for your time.

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My largest watch (next to the Swatch) has an integrated bracelet. The lug to lug dimension is only 2mm longer than the width. That’s a big advantage for people with small wrists who want a large watch.

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WF titles sure are getting clickbaity these days.

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As much as I applaud CW for another incredible release and value proposition shaking the industry, I am so over the integrated bracelet craze and millions of PRX posted everywhere. 😭

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Never been under it.

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Integrated bracelets aren't going away any time soon. They sell too many of them.

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I prefer bracelets over straps , but i agree having the option to change bracelets to other straps like leather and nato is much better then “ integrated “ bracelets

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Short answer: No.

Longer answer: I never liked integrated bracelets, so for the last couple of years I tuned out every post, video or article about them. The reason for this personal dislike is that every single one of them shares the same dated look, and not in a good way.

It's a bit surprising coming from me as I love vintage inspired and neo-retro watches, but there it is: Integrated watches design is something from the 70's that should have remained in the 70's.

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I don't think Max had a good take on the PRX. He complains the bracelet links near the lug don't hang right. Of course they don't, this watch doesn't fit his small wrist. It's like complaining about a shoe when wearing one that's 2 sizes too large.

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I’ve not really been a fan of the integrated bracelets, mainly due to the butterfly clasp they all seem to have. That style is ok for a dress watch but not for something supposedly for all day, every day.

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I’m more a dive watch & GMT guy, so I’m not partial to integrated bracelets. Though I really like the GP Laureato.

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Is Zenith Defy 21 on a bracelet an integrated watch?