Applied indexes are overrated

Sure it gives the dial slight height and some bling, but I think it's more overrated than it's really worth, I prefer good printed dial far more than regular applied indexes myself. Just like see-thru case back, it's a nice detail for the first week, but after that, I won't be noticing it in the same way, also, printed dials = thinner watches.

Thoughts?

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They do look good to especially under magnification.

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SpecKTator

They do look good to especially under magnification.

Yes they do, but how often do you even look that closely? I realized that I've owned my PRX for a few months now, and never looked closely at it ever XDDDDDDDD

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Lord_Dappingtonshire

Yes they do, but how often do you even look that closely? I realized that I've owned my PRX for a few months now, and never looked closely at it ever XDDDDDDDD

I don’t have bionic eyes so I didn’t even know the PRX had raised markers 😂

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Yeah they do XDDDDD

and some of my other watches that I have have applied indexes, but srsly, I think printed ones have far better lumes if anything....

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I prefer applied indices, it gives it more depth to the watch… but if we are talking about porcelain dial and enamels and the indices are painted with great care and precision then I can appreciate it more…

My presages are not applied indices and they are chunky due to the movement so having applied indices doesn’t necessarily mean thicker cases…

My Grand seikos with applied indices are 2-3 mm thinner …

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Ichibunz

I prefer applied indices, it gives it more depth to the watch… but if we are talking about porcelain dial and enamels and the indices are painted with great care and precision then I can appreciate it more…

My presages are not applied indices and they are chunky due to the movement so having applied indices doesn’t necessarily mean thicker cases…

My Grand seikos with applied indices are 2-3 mm thinner …

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But yeah, depth is nice and all, but I rarely think about "Oh wow look at the depth of this dial" like never?

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Lord_Dappingtonshire
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But yeah, depth is nice and all, but I rarely think about "Oh wow look at the depth of this dial" like never?

Weirdly, that’s what I look at all the time … I can get lost in the dials, the depth and textures… to each it’s own… beauty is in the eye of the beholder…

If I can get lost and stare at a watch for hours that one is a keeper …

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Some watches, it is the THING I like most about the watch. I Dont want it on every watch.

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Lord_Dappingtonshire
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But yeah, depth is nice and all, but I rarely think about "Oh wow look at the depth of this dial" like never?

Sometimes when I am particularly stressed out at work, and if I’m wearing my GS, I take off the watch, look at it, admire the indicies, put the watch back on and continue working.

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I have fallen in love with my Seiko SNXS73 due to the design and features of the dial. For a $109 watch, it looks more expensive than that. If this same watch didn’t have to applied indices and Seiko 5 logo, I doubt it would have interested me enough to actually buy it.

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Personally I am a fan of applied indexes. Especially when it comes to Lume. Of course I'm a noob so what do I know 😁🤣

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Depends on the watch, but I very much like applied indices where appropriate. It doesn’t take fighter pilot eyes to see them and they add interest to a dial.

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I find the whole discussion to make no sense.

Indices are simply one part of the design, so for me there's no good or bad as much as there's the matter of how it contributes to the design of the watch.

There are watches where applied indices look great and there are those where printed indices look great. There are watches where applied indices are ugly and those where printed indices are ugly. I wouldn't want applied indices on my Nomos or Brew, but I certainly wouldn't want printed ones on my Escapement Time or Certina dress watch either.

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It depends on the watch and design. IMO, the applied numerals look terrible on the Rolex Explorer — too blingy and tacky — but are a major part of what makes Grand Seiko dials so engaging. The IWC Mark XX’s printed dial is perfect, but the lack of applied indices on the Oris Propilot X ruin that watch for me.

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SimonB

Personally I am a fan of applied indexes. Especially when it comes to Lume. Of course I'm a noob so what do I know 😁🤣

You know what you like, that's what you know.

There's not one feature of a watch that has 100% approval rating through all models & all enthusiasts.

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DixonSteele

How do you feel about the new Tudor Ranger? The whole thing left me a little cold when I tried one on but I think the single biggest issue I had was the lack of applied indices left it feeling a bit, well, 'flat'. I'm wondering if what was an issue for me would be a selling point for you?

Wearing my Ranger now. While by no means exciting, it is true to its roots, is fairly thin, and has good lume. It wouldn't be the same watch with applied markers.

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You can try checking out the applied index in Grand Seiko watches. Like Slga007 or even modest one like sbgh001, sbgh201. Those without GMT.

GS make everything, indexed, lacquer dial, inner lug all polished. And it really make a huge difference.

Not joking, got to physically see it yourself

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You will like this, no depth, no hands, looks like a sticker 😂

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I like both kinds. A particularly crisply or plumply printed dial is very satisfying. But some applied markers can be gorgeously executed, even moving into the realm of engineering.

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The clean printing on this ARK GMT works so well with the concave dial.

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While the floating indices on the T200 cast prismatic light from the nearly invisible grooves on their top surfaces.

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I like printed dials. In some cases, such as with the Explorer, they are even the better choice in my opinion.

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I definitely like/appreciate applied indices, but a well-printed dial is just as good!

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Hmmm let me guess, you hate 3D movies. 😂🤙❤️

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Never really had a preference. I guess it depends how it looks like on the watch

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Honestly some watches NEED the applied indices to work and other watches can really rock a nice printed dial while others just look cheap. Really just depends on the design aesthetic (and sometimes overall company ethos).

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Pretty much agree with a classic example of VC ,Moser, and ALS etc , I love a beautiful dial with Arabic numerals enameled or painted , works for me , i can take or leave them depending on the type of watch .

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This to me is printed perfectly no need for any raised bits

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DixonSteele

How do you feel about the new Tudor Ranger? The whole thing left me a little cold when I tried one on but I think the single biggest issue I had was the lack of applied indices left it feeling a bit, well, 'flat'. I'm wondering if what was an issue for me would be a selling point for you?

I got a Ranger and personally like the 1016 Rolex vibes , to each his own :)

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There is one huge advantage of applied indices. If you're a moder, you can peel them off the dial and put them away in the parts box. Then, when you get bored say a month later, you can take them out of the box and stack them in a row on your desk and look at it. You can't do it with printed ones, unless you draw them on the table 😁

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ottop1

I find the whole discussion to make no sense.

Indices are simply one part of the design, so for me there's no good or bad as much as there's the matter of how it contributes to the design of the watch.

There are watches where applied indices look great and there are those where printed indices look great. There are watches where applied indices are ugly and those where printed indices are ugly. I wouldn't want applied indices on my Nomos or Brew, but I certainly wouldn't want printed ones on my Escapement Time or Certina dress watch either.

Zing! goes the emoji arrow.

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This to me is printed perfectly no need for any raised bits

But . . . but they put the dial on sideways! I thought VC were supposed to be high end. I'll never complain about Seiko chapter rings or bezels again.