Future of the Black Bay 58

I think the BB58 needs to play on its name. The Pelagos is beautiful.  It's Titanium & the BB58 is a steel watch. Time for the Black Bay line to refresh. BB line is the steel go to. Pelegos is the Titanium go to.

  Side Note: a Titanium Ranger? 

A titanium Ranger would be 🔥

Stylistically, I think there's room in the lineup for both the 39 and the 58.

If they make either one in LHD, there might be room in my house, too.

Yes. I agree that there is room for both. The Pelagos, to me, feels more of a tech-forward dive watch, while the BB has the vintage vibes of yesterday.  If I was going to dive with one, I’d pick the Pelagos For its legibility and bracelet. Right now I dive with my Doxa.  

Room for both for sure. The BB58 has to many different options for it to go away. The real question is, when is Tudor gonna come out with a BB58 GMT w/ a rotating bezel????

Lots of companies make multiple watches that somewhat overlap in style and size. 

I suspect that Tudor has no plans to ditch the BB58, I believe it's one of their best sellers. If Tudor can sell all of the  BB58, Pelagos 39s, Pelagos FXDs, etc., they make, why discontinue any of them? They are after all the brand that is essentially slipping into Rolex's old space of being the "everyman's" affordable luxury brand. 

Using myself as an example - I’d have one of each if finances allowed so I think there is enough room for both models to coexist. 

BB58 - vintage rolex throwback

Pelagos 39 - Tudor up-spec original 

They can defintely coexist. Tudor fans will want both, even all three including the original Pelagos. The Swiss watch brands know a thing or two about how to take our hard earned money.

The BB58 is their most popular watch. That’s probably not going to change even with the new Pelagos or the other new watches they’ve released lately. The 58 still offers a dive watch with great specs, size and unique vintage look for cheaper than the new Pelagos. I think that still makes a difference. 

I don't think the BB58 is going anywhere. The line got a bunch of new models over the last few years; the Pelagos got no attention at all. Tudor was so Black Bay centric that it risked becoming the Black Bay Company, the way AP has become the Royal Oak Company. Patek tried to avoid becoming the Nautilus Company by killing the 5711. Tudor is broadening it's focus away from the Black Bay 58 with the Ranger, the new Pelagos, and even the Black Bay Pro, which was a bit of a departure. They'll come back to the BB58, but with a bit more moderation.

Agree with all of you - but given the breadth of the Black Bay Range (and in fact the Tudor range generally) there are opportunities to consolidate and potentially create more discontinued halo pieces to (as Rolex has done) further increase brand desirability. 

I suspect an update of the BB58 models is probably more likely in the nearer term. 

Unless BB58 slows down commercially I can’t see them doing much consolidation / trimming of the line. Doesn’t seem to be the Tudor way. At this pace, I think in a year or two I think they’ll be like Longines / Oris (in terms of range of offerings offer) with a really big catalogue with lots and lots of variants of size / colours etc. 

I think the BB58 will be discontinued and the Black Bay Pro line will expand to have options and colors that we would expect from the 58.  This will allow them to incorporate the new bracelet and clasp. Add some other features and color ways, and also make more money. 

I think the BB58 will stay. Why kill a success. IMO the Pelagos 39 was the only way was ”allowed” to produce a black diver. A non gilt BB58 black would compete with the Submariner.

I hope for a blue Pelagos39 but that could be tricky for Tudor to have both BB58 and Pelagos 39 in blue.

I'm new to the Tudor fold, having picked up the new 39mm Ranger.

I don't think there's any more conflict between the BB58 and the Pelagos 39 than there was between the original Black Bay and Pelagos. Or between the Omega Seamaster 300m Diver and the Seamaster 300. It's great to have a modern model and a more vintage inspired one.

Between the Black Bay, Ranger, and now Pelagos, Tudor absolutely owns the 39mm watch category. Something for everyone, and I'm sure lots more variations to come.

I'd love to see the t-fit become standard as an update to the 58 line, but otherwise I say "keep it coming". No need to discontinue any of it. Let's have a North Flag 39 while we're at it, as a more modern alternative to the Ranger.

(I'd also love to see 38 or 39 versions of both Seamasters.)

Ohhhh a ti ranger man that would be interesting for sure.