Down the rabbit hole! AKA, selling the SBGK015 for the Kudoke 2

If you run with the wrong crowd, your friends can be a very bad influence.  

Recently, I had reached a zen state with regard to my collection.  I’d decided that I was content with the watches I had, and no reason in the world to seek out fleeting, ephemeral pleasure in the pursuit of yet more.  And, then, @VictorAdameArt took me and @STAYINGWARM to a little jewelry store called Passion Fine Jewelry in Solana Beach.  From the outside, it looks like any beach town tourist-trappy jewelry shop...

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But, you walk in, and you are transported to a whole different dimension.  It’s like this…

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This is where @VictorAdameArt got his Habring 2.  Inside this case here...

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… can be found some of the world’s most amazing watches from independent brands, and incredible vintage finds:  Habring 2.  Roman Gauthier.  Speake-Marin.  WWII pilots’ watches!

Also, a Patek Philippe pocket watch from 1912, which @STAYINGWARM said was the most incredible thing he’d seen at the shop.  “My brother is really into pocket watches.  He would love this.”  So, did he buy it for his brother?  No, no he did not.  Why?  Because @STAYINGWARM is a terrible human being.  In spite of knowing precisely what would make his brother happy, and simply acting on that knowledge, he chose to do nothing.  What is it they say about sins of omission?  Remember what I said about “the wrong crowd”?

The experience in the shop is like no watch shopping trip I've ever had.  You lounge there.  We literally sat for an hour and a half talking watches with Brandon - https://www.instagram.com/thegrailwatch/?hl=en on Instagram - who brought out watch after watch for us to inspect and admire and talk over.  There were bottles of whiskey and other fine beverages on hand, which I'm sure we could have busted into, although we did not partake, because @STAYINGWARM is doing "Dry January."  WTF is that?  It was like sitting around and having a fun bull session with friends, handling $100k watches.

The shop also has Kudoke!  The Kudoke 2…  it was love at first sight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhoKoKtGUQ

I am a sucker for finishing.  And the dial is out of this world!  Pictures don’t do it justice.  In the picture below, the dial looks plain white, but it’s got this texture like frost on a window… It’s every bit the equal of the best GS dial out there…  if not better!  

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I’m on record as stating, and I maintain still, that I couldn’t care less about movements.  But, look at the finishing on this movement!  It is extraordinarily beautiful!

KUDOKE 2 Werkansicht

So, is it time?  Is it time to sell the SBGK015 to raise the funds to buy the Kudoke 2???  

Grand Seiko Manual SBGK015 U.S. Limited Edition Dress Watch – Grand Seiko  Official Boutique

Or, do I wait till March 2024?  Hopefully, by March 2024, I will have saved up enough to do our home remodel, and then I can go back to spending irresponsible sums on this ridiculous hobby, instead of selling off my watches.  

Or, am I just deluding myself?  Am I like one of those clowns who sees an indie film for the very first time, and suddenly starts dressing in turtlenecks and French berets?  I mean, am I being like one of those college kids who stumbles across "The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou” and suddenly swears off all “Big Hollywood” films, when in reality we all know that Avengers Endgame is 8,000x more intelligent and meaningful than anything Wes Anderson could ever hope to produce?

Well, which is it?  Would you sell off the SBGK015 for a Kudoke 2?  Anyone else go down the independent rabbit hole?  Did you swear off all big watch brands forevermore?  Is this just a phase?

And what is the meaning of life?

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I take zero responsibility for this.

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Oh, you are in trouble.

Also, no song this good has ever been in a Marvel movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4tS67TDo6Y

HotKudokeChick69

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I could spin an argument around how increases velocity of transactions creates significant economic loss because you're creating too many opportunities for intermediaries to take a cut.

But a certain former Omeganut has preached on variety being the spice of life and the SBGK is another (very nice) Grand Seiko in a fairly large collection of Grand Seikos....

I think you're screwed. 😂

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VictorAdameArt

I take zero responsibility for this.

You are 100% to blame.  100%.

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Aurelian

Oh, you are in trouble.

Also, no song this good has ever been in a Marvel movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4tS67TDo6Y

HotKudokeChick69

Here you go, friend.

Seek Aimee: Jason Schwartzman as Max Fischer in Rushmore | Wes anderson  films, Rushmore movie, Jason

Though... this was a good movie.

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HotWatchChick69

Here you go, friend.

Seek Aimee: Jason Schwartzman as Max Fischer in Rushmore | Wes anderson  films, Rushmore movie, Jason

Though... this was a good movie.

I like Wes Anderson's movies. I love the soundtracks.  From Rushmore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsYpSHHqsEs

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Edge168n

I could spin an argument around how increases velocity of transactions creates significant economic loss because you're creating too many opportunities for intermediaries to take a cut.

But a certain former Omeganut has preached on variety being the spice of life and the SBGK is another (very nice) Grand Seiko in a fairly large collection of Grand Seikos....

I think you're screwed. 😂

You know, this was precisely what @STAYINGWARM was saying over coffee after our visit to the shop!  He was talking about baseball cards.

  • He had built a collection, keeping all his valuable cards, and that's how he enjoyed the hobby
  • A friend of his, meanwhile, would get some good cards, and then turn around and trade them in for more packs, etc., etc., constantly churning his collection, until the transaction costs effectively whittled away all the value of his collection

But, I guess that brings up the question of how one derives utility.  I mean, if you get utility from HAVING a collection, then you keep your watches.  If you derive utility from the constant churn,  then you simply accept that the losses are just part of the fun.

Hmmm...  maybe I wait, huh?

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HotWatchChick69

You know, this was precisely what @STAYINGWARM was saying over coffee after our visit to the shop!  He was talking about baseball cards.

  • He had built a collection, keeping all his valuable cards, and that's how he enjoyed the hobby
  • A friend of his, meanwhile, would get some good cards, and then turn around and trade them in for more packs, etc., etc., constantly churning his collection, until the transaction costs effectively whittled away all the value of his collection

But, I guess that brings up the question of how one derives utility.  I mean, if you get utility from HAVING a collection, then you keep your watches.  If you derive utility from the constant churn,  then you simply accept that the losses are just part of the fun.

Hmmm...  maybe I wait, huh?

The second part of my story was how in recent years I’ve changed the way I collect to be closer to that if my friend, and while my economic results went down, my enjoyment of my hobby went way up (which is much more important, it is after all a hobby). Now I’m all for changing it up for the sake of change.  Can’t wait to see your new piece @HotWatchChick69 !!

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STAYINGWARM

The second part of my story was how in recent years I’ve changed the way I collect to be closer to that if my friend, and while my economic results went down, my enjoyment of my hobby went way up (which is much more important, it is after all a hobby). Now I’m all for changing it up for the sake of change.  Can’t wait to see your new piece @HotWatchChick69 !!

The funny thing is that I was sure that you were going to be the one to buy a watch there.  I mean, prior to this, I never gave independent watchmakers a single thought.  

I mean, given that you should want economies of scale in manufactured goods, the whole, "Yeah, cool, it's an actual watchmaker hand carving a watch out of Play-doh" thing just didn't seem appealing.  

But, you, with your whole Dornbluth & Sohn thing, I figured you would absolutely pull out credit card on the spot for one of those watches!

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By the way, it is a phallic symbol that I'm seeing on the Kudoke movement, right? Is it only me? I was too afraid to ask before.

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jcRUwithMe

By the way, it is a phallic symbol that I'm seeing on the Kudoke movement, right? Is it only me? I was too afraid to ask before.

OMG!

You have now ruined the watch for me!!!

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Aurelian

Oh, you are in trouble.

Also, no song this good has ever been in a Marvel movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4tS67TDo6Y

HotKudokeChick69

VU and Lou Reed are amazing. Candy Says and Stephanie Says, Sweet Jane...so many great songs.

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ChronoGuy

VU and Lou Reed are amazing. Candy Says and Stephanie Says, Sweet Jane...so many great songs.

Pale Blue Eyes is sublime.

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Aurelian

Pale Blue Eyes is sublime.

Agreed - REM also did a fantastic version...

https://youtu.be/1raboO1gK_A

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ChronoGuy

Agreed - REM also did a fantastic version...

https://youtu.be/1raboO1gK_A

I love hijacking a thread. I saw REM play this and Sunday Morning when they opened for the Police in 1982 or 83.