Is this a copy of Sinn or is it just some basic German design language?

Serious question. First thing I thought of when I saw this was, “is this a copy of Sinn?”. So now I’m wondering if it’s like a Bauhaus thing where it’s a school of design thought or if I’m just seeing things.

Please enlighten me 😇

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Fliegers all pretty much look the same to me, and Laco was an original manufacturer of fliegers. I think it goes with utilitarian German design.

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No, it's definitely not a Bauhaus thing, that's a different design. It's surely a variation of a Flieger pattern, with some Sinn influence, for sure. I'm unsure about the Bezel, and I think a count-down bezel would have made more sense.

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The dial design is based on a cockpit clock, so not specifically a Sinn thing. Sinn went that route because it's founder was a test pilot.

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Modern pilot's watches, particularly German ones tend to lean toward the cockpit clock look, while IWC and others lean more toward classic fliegers.

To me, the Laco seems to be a blend of Marathon GSAR styling for the bezel, and Sinn/cockpit clock for the dial. I like the look.

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I Agree with @madminuteman . This design language is the German utilitarian style of the traditional fliegers

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LACO is its own thing, in my view. I think they were founded in 1922 (?), and that whole flieger look was, again just what I have an impression of but not nailed down, so I’m happy to be wrong, a shared German design concept. IWC shares this design template deep in the bone.

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Laco is older thann Sinn, Established in 1925 . They delivered the Pilot watches (Flieger) as well like IWC for the german Luftwaffe ( airforce) in WW2. So thats the Classic Flieger Design.

I think they have nice Interpretations if the Design, like the Frankfurt GMT that ein the red dot Price.

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Balanced

LACO is its own thing, in my view. I think they were founded in 1922 (?), and that whole flieger look was, again just what I have an impression of but not nailed down, so I’m happy to be wrong, a shared German design concept. IWC shares this design template deep in the bone.

And @KristianG is right, the Design goes back on the old Cockpit watches. They have to be big and easy and quick to read.

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I like a lot of Sinn watches, but their pilot watches with bezels never look quite right to me. The Laco above gets it right I think. As others have said, Laco came to this party first.

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Laco, STOWA, A. Lange & Sohne, and IWC were the original Flieger makers. Sinn came later. If anything, Sinn copied Laco and the others.

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Any idea on the price? I went to Laco website but it seems at the moment is only available for presale and only by invitation or sth like that...

By the way... only a German compqny would name a product after a DIN (german equivalent of ISO) norm😂

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It does have more than a sniff of Sinn, but also subtly different…… I do like it though…..

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delta6

Any idea on the price? I went to Laco website but it seems at the moment is only available for presale and only by invitation or sth like that...

By the way... only a German compqny would name a product after a DIN (german equivalent of ISO) norm😂

I think I saw 2.5k usd somewhere

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It matches the original Laco flieger design language (shape of the hands, markings) and has elements to make it align to the contemporary German pilot watch standard DIN 8330. The standard will require certain design features such as an easy to read dial and a matte case finish, that’s why all of the standard compliant watches look similar. Examples from Sinn and Stowa below:

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Round with a rotating bezel, Arabic numerals and Crown guards. Must be a copy of something.

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I watched Youtube NYC fair, it is tested as a pilot watch. It take 4 years. That why it is 2500ish.. it is anti magnetic, static, etc. Updated wishlist.

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hbein2022

No, it's definitely not a Bauhaus thing, that's a different design. It's surely a variation of a Flieger pattern, with some Sinn influence, for sure. I'm unsure about the Bezel, and I think a count-down bezel would have made more sense.

I'm not sure Sinn designs are worth copying. Despite their obvious strengths, looks are not there forte. If copy, why not copy somebody worthwhile?

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Balanced

LACO is its own thing, in my view. I think they were founded in 1922 (?), and that whole flieger look was, again just what I have an impression of but not nailed down, so I’m happy to be wrong, a shared German design concept. IWC shares this design template deep in the bone.

1925

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delta6

Any idea on the price? I went to Laco website but it seems at the moment is only available for presale and only by invitation or sth like that...

By the way... only a German compqny would name a product after a DIN (german equivalent of ISO) norm😂

It's a nation of nerds. Leave them alone. Without them, we wouldn't have Mercedes, Adidas, Beethoven, Porsche, Bach, the Cinderella Castle, you name it...

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MadMachine

It matches the original Laco flieger design language (shape of the hands, markings) and has elements to make it align to the contemporary German pilot watch standard DIN 8330. The standard will require certain design features such as an easy to read dial and a matte case finish, that’s why all of the standard compliant watches look similar. Examples from Sinn and Stowa below:

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somehow i like this creepy-looking stowa. it reminds me of montblanc

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I asked the laco rep this exact question. She said there is a list of requirements from the military that dictate case and dial aesthetics that results in a similar look.

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Bvlgari.Man

somehow i like this creepy-looking stowa. it reminds me of montblanc

I think it’s my favourite too. That crazy bezel was more than a little inspired from a Junghans watch that was issued to the Luftwaffe in the 50s

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Laco is pretty legit. They are one of the original companies to make Fliegers during WWII. You can get cheaper ones with Japanese movements or somewhat pricier ones with Swiss movements.

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delta6

Any idea on the price? I went to Laco website but it seems at the moment is only available for presale and only by invitation or sth like that...

By the way... only a German compqny would name a product after a DIN (german equivalent of ISO) norm😂

So, the model is the Laco "Hamburg" and it meets the DIN 8330 standard.

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delta6

Any idea on the price? I went to Laco website but it seems at the moment is only available for presale and only by invitation or sth like that...

By the way... only a German compqny would name a product after a DIN (german equivalent of ISO) norm😂

€1,790 ($1,900 USD)

Source:

https://monochrome-watches.com/introducing-laco-uhren-hamburg-din-8330-gmt-pilots-watch-sellita-sw200-sw330-specs-price/

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Bvlgari.Man

1925

Thanks 😊

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Sign me up, will be cheaper than a Sinn with a similar look from one of the original flieger watchmakers

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GoldenWatchRetriever
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I like the little owl 🦉 Better than a 12 o'clock numeral

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Commisar

Sign me up, will be cheaper than a Sinn with a similar look from one of the original flieger watchmakers

But me one too pls