Is redundancy a problem for you?

This is something that I think about every time I see a new piece or I see a watch that I've seen before and initially, I start to yearn for that piece but then I back off because it already looks like something that I've seen before. I show to you the Seiko SSK001 and the SKX007, two pieces that I currently own. These are two watches that I will never part with because with the SKX, it was the one watch that I consistently saw when I first heavily fell into this hobby and it became one of the first automatics that I'd own and the SSK is something that I consistently fall in love with time and time again. These are the two Seiko black dial divers that I own. This third photo shows off the Seiko SPB237 and I just learned about it because of the latest video with Max and Andrew Morgan and man....it's a looker. It's just so....weathered. Right from the get go. Really gives it a whole lot of character. Initially, I held off from digging into this watch because it seemed like another dark dial watch, but after a couple of photos, I'm seeing that the SPB237 doesn't fall into this problem, but something inside of me really speaks out against having too much of the same. Is redundancy a problem for you?

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In this hobby, redundancy is common and natural 😜… curious I’m looking for nic e bracelet for my Willard where did you get yours?

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As someone with 2 G-shock GA-2100s, yes.

I was also very close to adding a black Seiko SRPD to my collection when they were on a massive sale last month.

I ultimately didn't because I already have my humble black Casio Duro which was a meaningful gift from a friend, so it's a keeper. I thought the 5KX was a little too similar, it didn't jump out at me, and has less water resistance.

I take my gifted Duro canoe tripping & swimming quite regularly in the summer. I'm not comfortable with the lower WR of the 5KX for this role.

I'm happy with my choice to hold off. Means I can keep saving for a Zelos or something else for swimming.

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Ichibunz

In this hobby, redundancy is common and natural 😜… curious I’m looking for nic e bracelet for my Willard where did you get yours?

Unfortunately, this is not mine (yet). But that bracelet looks like a jubilee. As to where to get one? If you want a quality one, you can prob find one from Long Islander or Uncle Seiko.

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AshKetchup

As someone with 2 G-shock GA-2100s, yes.

I was also very close to adding a black Seiko SRPD to my collection when they were on a massive sale last month.

I ultimately didn't because I already have my humble black Casio Duro which was a meaningful gift from a friend, so it's a keeper. I thought the 5KX was a little too similar, it didn't jump out at me, and has less water resistance.

I take my gifted Duro canoe tripping & swimming quite regularly in the summer. I'm not comfortable with the lower WR of the 5KX for this role.

I'm happy with my choice to hold off. Means I can keep saving for a Zelos or something else for swimming.

Oh man, the GA-2100s are watches that you can easily own a load of haha. I first got mine back when they blew up in popularity, but then I sold that one. I got the grey one when it first came out, then sold it. Now, I've got a pine green one. Love the color on it. And yeah, the Casio Duro is such a solid piece.

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Not me, I like super legible, black dial, issue inspired field/diver watches. I own some other dial colors and types for sure, but it's what I like. Each one has some reason it's now mine, a gift, a memento, haven't had anything new in awhile.

Seeing as it's my collection of watches, of things I like, don't care if it fits a mold. The purists out there might sniff about having a "real collection". Who cares? Ain't nobody got time for that....😉 I'm too busy using my tools, flexing my drip as they say! 🤙🏻

I like looking at other collections, regardless of price/type, they are snapshots into a person's outlook.

Isn't it insane that something so simple as an instrument you strap to your wrist to approximately tell how long you've endured and/or survived Earth's rotation, can vary soooooo freaking wildly?

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solidyetti

Not me, I like super legible, black dial, issue inspired field/diver watches. I own some other dial colors and types for sure, but it's what I like. Each one has some reason it's now mine, a gift, a memento, haven't had anything new in awhile.

Seeing as it's my collection of watches, of things I like, don't care if it fits a mold. The purists out there might sniff about having a "real collection". Who cares? Ain't nobody got time for that....😉 I'm too busy using my tools, flexing my drip as they say! 🤙🏻

I like looking at other collections, regardless of price/type, they are snapshots into a person's outlook.

Isn't it insane that something so simple as an instrument you strap to your wrist to approximately tell how long you've endured and/or survived Earth's rotation, can vary soooooo freaking wildly?

Oh yeah nah, I def agree with your first point where like, a watch may have been a gift, a memento, etc. That's what the SKX is for me. It was one of my first. And with the SSK...well, it's my first GMT. Bless Seiko for that.

Def agree with the second point too. I don't care about fitting a particular collection criteria. Granted, it is one that does line up with like...everyone else, but I feel like it does get a bit more specific. But that's neither here nor there.

And yeah man....it's all in the design. The material. The quality of the build and material. To someone who doesn't pay attention to watches, they won't think twice about what the movement may be on someone's wrist. But to the hobbyist...it matters so much. It all matters on what makes your heart sing with glee.

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You can never have too many Seikos.

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I don’t have a problem with redundancy. Find a style you like and rock it. I’m not into divers that much so out of that group I prefer the third one.

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Funny coming across this post. I was very close to posting about having two watches of the same model/variant in different colors.

I'm still on the fence about this one. I have an SRPG with blue dial and orange markers and an SRPH that's all black. Both watches are considerably different. But very similar at the same time. To the untrained eye, these two watches are the same. In different colors.

Sometimes I still wonder why I bought them. I'm not regretting one bit. They wear so nicely especially with their new Natos. But it makes me think that I could possibly have gotten something completely different instead. The feeling is hard to describe. I love them both equally. It would be like asking me which leg I'd prefer to keep. I'll keep both thank you very much.

I would not get another flieger/field watch. I already have a 5KX. I love the SSK but wouldn't get one. It's just like the 5KX but with an extra hand. Another diver? I have my Tuna. So where am I going with this?

At some point, we're bound to get something similar to what we already have. I love the Seiko SPB143. I would love to have one. Would I not get one because it looks too much like my Animal W001? No way. Apples and oranges. Ah, But they both tell time just the same. They both have a screw down crown. They are both water resistant. But they are worlds apart. Hear me out... Their souls are different!

Like a car. Not one has the same feeling, smells or sounds. Each has its own soul. They way it shifts, the way it accelerates. The way it makes you feel is what counts.

Same for the little piece of metal strapped to your wrist. It doesn't matter if all your watches look the same. They all feel different and that's what matters.

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SpecKTator

You can never have too many Seikos.

I mean.....facts. I've got six of them and have owned many more in the past. It's just...if a piece just sits in my watch case and doesn't see the light of day in two months, then I feel a need to sell it off. Not only to get some cash back, but just so someone else can wear it and put it to good use. A watch's place does not belong in some box. It belongs on a wrist and on someone' desk where it's always ready to be grabbed and slapped onto said wrist.

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Gary_Chv

I don’t have a problem with redundancy. Find a style you like and rock it. I’m not into divers that much so out of that group I prefer the third one.

100%. It's just....if I've got watch A, B, C, and D and I wear watch D and B a lot and C is rarely used because it's so similar to B and A...why even own it? Idk. That's just me though.

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Paragonmsp

Funny coming across this post. I was very close to posting about having two watches of the same model/variant in different colors.

I'm still on the fence about this one. I have an SRPG with blue dial and orange markers and an SRPH that's all black. Both watches are considerably different. But very similar at the same time. To the untrained eye, these two watches are the same. In different colors.

Sometimes I still wonder why I bought them. I'm not regretting one bit. They wear so nicely especially with their new Natos. But it makes me think that I could possibly have gotten something completely different instead. The feeling is hard to describe. I love them both equally. It would be like asking me which leg I'd prefer to keep. I'll keep both thank you very much.

I would not get another flieger/field watch. I already have a 5KX. I love the SSK but wouldn't get one. It's just like the 5KX but with an extra hand. Another diver? I have my Tuna. So where am I going with this?

At some point, we're bound to get something similar to what we already have. I love the Seiko SPB143. I would love to have one. Would I not get one because it looks too much like my Animal W001? No way. Apples and oranges. Ah, But they both tell time just the same. They both have a screw down crown. They are both water resistant. But they are worlds apart. Hear me out... Their souls are different!

Like a car. Not one has the same feeling, smells or sounds. Each has its own soul. They way it shifts, the way it accelerates. The way it makes you feel is what counts.

Same for the little piece of metal strapped to your wrist. It doesn't matter if all your watches look the same. They all feel different and that's what matters.

I def agree with you. Each watch has a different essence, so to speak. And depending on who the person is, it'll either call out to you or it's just another watch on display. For me, the most recent example is the Seiko Speedtimer Go Large! Literally every other Seiko Speedtimer has received the spotlight in one way or another and to me, they're all so hideous. Those tan colors completely throw things off for me. They're so horrid. But then because of Andrew and Tom from Watchfinder, I discovered the SSC911. Where the hell was this peice??? Like Jesus Christ, give this piece some time in the lime light! It's absolutely gorgeous! It's the poor man's Zenith El Primero! The bright white dial plus the red second hands plus the deep blue solar sub dials plus the grey dial equals....such a wonderful piece. That's a timepiece...that I'd love to own.

However it's going to have to wait because I just purchased two Citizen Tsuyosas in black 😅 But ultimately, I do agree with your point. There's just something in me that prohibits me from owning too much of the same. Big example of that is the Seiko SRP777. I owned it at one point, but I've already got the SKX and now the SSK. There's no need for me to own something so ridiculously similar.

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brianmp21

I mean.....facts. I've got six of them and have owned many more in the past. It's just...if a piece just sits in my watch case and doesn't see the light of day in two months, then I feel a need to sell it off. Not only to get some cash back, but just so someone else can wear it and put it to good use. A watch's place does not belong in some box. It belongs on a wrist and on someone' desk where it's always ready to be grabbed and slapped onto said wrist.

So many Seikos, only 2 wrists…

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SpecKTator

So many Seikos, only 2 wrists…

THE STRUGGLE IS REAL 😫😂

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Redundancy is 'a thing' in watch collecting and when it comes to my divers, I try and keep things interesting by having some on bracelets, some on rubber, some on nato, some on MN, etc. In this way, the watches all FEEL different, even if they don't always LOOK so different. That's the way I've tackled it, anyway.

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iliketowatch

Thanks. Got a '73, and a '68 too. Never for sale.

Hell yes. That's amazing.

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brianmp21

Hell yes. That's amazing.

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brianmp21

Ooh buddy. To only have such a dilemma 😅 That's a tough one. Both are lovely pieces. Maybe....just maybe....if that pelagos keeps calling out to you...maybe acquire it? Keep an eye out for a price drop? 👀

hahaha yes it is indeed a ridiculous “problem” to have. hence the quotes. it’s not really a problem. but gotta admit the Pelagos is so pretty it gives me thoughts of selling the Sub and pocketing the extra cash i’d have trading for the Pelagos.

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iliketowatch
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Hoooooolyyyyyyy fuck. Those dials 😍 they are stunning!!

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BillableHours

hahaha yes it is indeed a ridiculous “problem” to have. hence the quotes. it’s not really a problem. but gotta admit the Pelagos is so pretty it gives me thoughts of selling the Sub and pocketing the extra cash i’d have trading for the Pelagos.

Mmmmm idk man. That's def tough. I mean if you managed to get the Roley, just save up for the Pelagos and call it a day. GG EZ. Mhmm mhmm.

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brianmp21

Mmmmm idk man. That's def tough. I mean if you managed to get the Roley, just save up for the Pelagos and call it a day. GG EZ. Mhmm mhmm.

lol oh saving up isn’t the issue. it’s about curating the collection. i’m trying to be much more intentional about what watches to add to the collection. don’t want to just keep adding to the collection and end up with 50 watches that i never wear.

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The way I see it is: many watches look similar, especially those that have an intended and particular purpose, such as dive and field watches.

But the neat part about being a watch collector, at least to me, is the attention to detail. If someone tells me, "Those three watches look exactly alike," I know enough about them to say, "Actually, although these three are all dive watches, each one has something special about it..." and then go on to explain what those special aspects or features are.

Each watch in my collection has a certain significance to me. Each watch that I buy is purchased with purposeful intent; therefore, looks alone cannot be (and are not) the sole basis for my acquisition of a given watch.

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BillableHours

lol oh saving up isn’t the issue. it’s about curating the collection. i’m trying to be much more intentional about what watches to add to the collection. don’t want to just keep adding to the collection and end up with 50 watches that i never wear.

Mmmm....fair fair. It's def something that I do too. It's just in my case, at least to me, having both a Pelagos 39 and a Sub seems like a solid decision. Granted, I'm nowhere near acquiring either piece so I really can't speak 😅 How many watches are in your collection now?

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TwiceTollingClock

The way I see it is: many watches look similar, especially those that have an intended and particular purpose, such as dive and field watches.

But the neat part about being a watch collector, at least to me, is the attention to detail. If someone tells me, "Those three watches look exactly alike," I know enough about them to say, "Actually, although these three are all dive watches, each one has something special about it..." and then go on to explain what those special aspects or features are.

Each watch in my collection has a certain significance to me. Each watch that I buy is purchased with purposeful intent; therefore, looks alone cannot be (and are not) the sole basis for my acquisition of a given watch.

Yes, of course. I always do a lot of pondering and musing before purchasing a watch. I add it to my watchlist. I view a couple of photos on Instagram. I look at review videos. And I stew on it, kind of like how a chef has to let a soon-to-be tonkotsu broth stew for over 24 hours...except I sit in my broth of thoughts for much longer. If I keep going back to it to see it via photo or video, then I may end up copping it. Either this entire process happens...or I just buy it on the spot because both my gut and heart are like "NOW. I NEED THIS...NOW. MAKE...THE MOVE." Kind of like how I did with my Timex Marlin Sub-Dial.

(Sidenote: Christ on a cracker, I've never had a watch do that to me before. The Marlin Sub-Dial reel dropped on Timex's IG account, and I scooped it up so fast. I've not looked back yet. It's such a wonderful piece.)

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I used to collect Platinum fountain pens—all the 3776 model. They were all the same, only different colors and materials. I liked them. I only have one now (I still think it is the best writing pen for business, ever), but I really do not care if it is similar.

I do not care for the first two watches, but the last one with the grey dial and fauxtina is a stunner. I would wear that all day. Seiko’s real value prop is around $1,000 (give or take $500). I kept my Orient Ray 2 and sold the SKX. Chinese brands make better watches in that $150-$350 price point. Microbrands also make better products at the $300-$500 price point.

But at $700-$1200, Seiko rules with their SARX, SARD, SARA, SBDC, and the useless SPB (what does that signify?) model ranges. I just wore my SARX083 today, and my SBDC097 yesterday, and they are so good. I do not care that I have two Sumo’s (although I did sell a few other Sumo’s), because they feel good. Sell your SKX and SSK and buy that Willard.

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brianmp21

Yes, of course. I always do a lot of pondering and musing before purchasing a watch. I add it to my watchlist. I view a couple of photos on Instagram. I look at review videos. And I stew on it, kind of like how a chef has to let a soon-to-be tonkotsu broth stew for over 24 hours...except I sit in my broth of thoughts for much longer. If I keep going back to it to see it via photo or video, then I may end up copping it. Either this entire process happens...or I just buy it on the spot because both my gut and heart are like "NOW. I NEED THIS...NOW. MAKE...THE MOVE." Kind of like how I did with my Timex Marlin Sub-Dial.

(Sidenote: Christ on a cracker, I've never had a watch do that to me before. The Marlin Sub-Dial reel dropped on Timex's IG account, and I scooped it up so fast. I've not looked back yet. It's such a wonderful piece.)

You have a true passion, it is quite evident in your writing. Don't ever lose that! 😎 When your approach to watches is an emotional process as you described, it means that whatever you end up buying is going to become a true treasure, "redundant" notwithstanding. 😎

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GarryPerkins

I used to collect Platinum fountain pens—all the 3776 model. They were all the same, only different colors and materials. I liked them. I only have one now (I still think it is the best writing pen for business, ever), but I really do not care if it is similar.

I do not care for the first two watches, but the last one with the grey dial and fauxtina is a stunner. I would wear that all day. Seiko’s real value prop is around $1,000 (give or take $500). I kept my Orient Ray 2 and sold the SKX. Chinese brands make better watches in that $150-$350 price point. Microbrands also make better products at the $300-$500 price point.

But at $700-$1200, Seiko rules with their SARX, SARD, SARA, SBDC, and the useless SPB (what does that signify?) model ranges. I just wore my SARX083 today, and my SBDC097 yesterday, and they are so good. I do not care that I have two Sumo’s (although I did sell a few other Sumo’s), because they feel good. Sell your SKX and SSK and buy that Willard.

Oh gosh, you're definitely misunderstanding me. The SKX and SSK are never leaving my collection. I was only using the SPB237 as an example for the feelings that initially rise to the surface in regards with redundancy. I will simply save up for the SPB237 because, to me, it is very different from the SKX and the SSK.

Also, this is the first time I'm hearing about the SBDC097. That's a really nice piece! It may or may not have to get picked up. Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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TwiceTollingClock

You have a true passion, it is quite evident in your writing. Don't ever lose that! 😎 When your approach to watches is an emotional process as you described, it means that whatever you end up buying is going to become a true treasure, "redundant" notwithstanding. 😎

At the end of the day, yeah. Like @mainreasontostay said, everything has a purpose. I've got a white, green, yellow, and black G-Shock because I wanted those colors. I've got the SKX007 because it was the watch that I was consistently seeing on Instagram. I have the SPB313 because to me, it's the perfect white dial watch for reasons I will go into another time. Each watch checks a box for me. If a watch doesn't check a box for me, then either A. I won't pick it up or B. I'll eventually sell it off. Kind of like what I did with my Seiko SRPD21 because I already have the SRPH57 and the SRPF77. The SRPD21 saw less wrist time because of those two. Unfortunate, yes. But now it's moved on to someone else that will be using it.

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brianmp21

At the end of the day, yeah. Like @mainreasontostay said, everything has a purpose. I've got a white, green, yellow, and black G-Shock because I wanted those colors. I've got the SKX007 because it was the watch that I was consistently seeing on Instagram. I have the SPB313 because to me, it's the perfect white dial watch for reasons I will go into another time. Each watch checks a box for me. If a watch doesn't check a box for me, then either A. I won't pick it up or B. I'll eventually sell it off. Kind of like what I did with my Seiko SRPD21 because I already have the SRPH57 and the SRPF77. The SRPD21 saw less wrist time because of those two. Unfortunate, yes. But now it's moved on to someone else that will be using it.

Seems like you are really into Seiko divers)

Another point worth mentioning is that while something may not seem to have a purpose now, it may get some in a future. I've been burnt so many times by selling an item just to regret it a couple month later. So now I generally try to withstand the urge of selling stuff on impulse as well as buying stuff on impulse.

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mainreasontostay

Seems like you are really into Seiko divers)

Another point worth mentioning is that while something may not seem to have a purpose now, it may get some in a future. I've been burnt so many times by selling an item just to regret it a couple month later. So now I generally try to withstand the urge of selling stuff on impulse as well as buying stuff on impulse.

Yuuuppp. Love my Seiko divers 😅

And yeah I'll more or less do the same. I sat on what to do about that SRPD21 for a minute but eventually...I came to the idea of selling it and I don't regret it. Maybe a bit because summer, but I'll make due.