Omega 1939 military

I just got this omega 1939 military. It is pretty small 32mm. But I love the patina on this 84 year old watch that is still ticking.

It is gaining around 35 seconds per day and I am considering getting it adjusted. But I am scared that it might be too delicate for a service.

But considering it is still ticking after 84 years, maybe I should not baby it.

What would you do?

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Do you know if it was recently serviced? If not I'd ring around & get a quote.

TBH that's accurate enough to impress me for a watch that age & would be ok for me accuracy wise as a daily. I'd just enquire about a service as a precaution as I'd imagine it's much more fragile than modern kit.

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The seller has told me that it has recently been serviced but I believe it needs to be adjusted.

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Great watch and history any chance of a pic of the case back

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It is a monoblock case, the movement is taken out from the front. The caseback is empty.

This is the inside of the case after it is removed

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By the way these pictures are from the seller since I am too afraid to hurt the watch and open the case.

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35 seconds a day?

Wear it and enjoy it. Only service it if it starts gaining or losing minutes or becomes hard to wind.

Fully adjusted it may still gain or lose 35 seconds a day. Precision is elusive with vintage watches.

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Agree with @Aurelian above.

35 seconds a day is very good !!

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Leave it the f*** alone

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35s/day for something that old is still impressive, I'll consider servicing it once it hits minutes/day

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If a watch that old is gaining 35 seconds a day, you might try demagnetizing it.

It's non-invasive, so you're not going to damage anything by trying it.

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That is good advice, I even have a demagnetizer at home.

But unfortunately, I already sent it via post a couple of minutes ago to the seller. He is the one that previously got the watch serviced he will see what he can do to make it a little better.

I am not expecting miracles but single digits would be incredible if achieved.

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heizenberg

35s/day for something that old is still impressive, I'll consider servicing it once it hits minutes/day

Actually, I am more concerned about the 3.0 beat error than the 35s/day.

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This is just an inexperienced opinion, but since the watch is functional it isn’t likely to have broken parts. In this case, an experienced Omega watchmaker should be able to service and regulate the watch with minimal risk.

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Imaluckydad

This is just an inexperienced opinion, but since the watch is functional it isn’t likely to have broken parts. In this case, an experienced Omega watchmaker should be able to service and regulate the watch with minimal risk.

for vintage watches I tend to prefer vintage experienced watchmakers.

Brand specific watchmakers are more likely to replace worn or broken parts with the new ones, vintage watchmakers are more likely to try to keep as much original parts as possible, because they do not have as easy access to those specific parts.

At least that is what I believe.

Brand specific watchmakers do tend to be much more expensive.

Also the seller will look at it free of charge :)

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Very good point. That’s kind of like what I was thinking as well. There’s one local here in Phoenix, AZ at https://omegaaddict.com/. I’ve only bought some watch straps from him so I have limited experience.

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He is taking care of it without any extra cost

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bariti

The seller has told me that it has recently been serviced but I believe it needs to be adjusted.

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The seller has told me that it has recently been serviced

Without a receipt, I would take this claim with a mountain of salt. In other words, I don't believe it.

I believe it needs to be adjusted.

Although I think +35 s/day is out of spec for that movement, it's probably reasonably close. So I wouldn't worry about the accuracy. If you're going to wear the watch regularly (and why else would accuracy matter?), however, I would definitely ensure that it has a proper and complete service. If the watch has been serviced at all, it was likely decades ago. That's plenty of time for the oil and lubrication to dry out and dust and debris to accumulate. If you run it in that state, you risk destroying the movement. (Would you drive a car whose oil hadn't been changed in decades?)

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I don't want to upset you but I would expect some military markings on the dial or case back,also checking the serial number it comes up as 1943

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sathomas

The seller has told me that it has recently been serviced

Without a receipt, I would take this claim with a mountain of salt. In other words, I don't believe it.

I believe it needs to be adjusted.

Although I think +35 s/day is out of spec for that movement, it's probably reasonably close. So I wouldn't worry about the accuracy. If you're going to wear the watch regularly (and why else would accuracy matter?), however, I would definitely ensure that it has a proper and complete service. If the watch has been serviced at all, it was likely decades ago. That's plenty of time for the oil and lubrication to dry out and dust and debris to accumulate. If you run it in that state, you risk destroying the movement. (Would you drive a car whose oil hadn't been changed in decades?)

The seller has a good reputation with vintage watches. I also purchased an omega pocket watch from him and it runs 0s/day.

His father is also a watchmaker.

I do believe the watch was serviced but I am not sure about the adjustment.

Also 84 years is a long time so we will see how well it will hold adjustment.

I love the dial though.

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Looks really good my friend doesn't look to small at all 👌

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I would let it be

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Its built like a tank !

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I have an old Omega that was recently serviced (a year or so maybe), done by Omega in Switzerland. I don't think it runs much better, if at all, than yours.

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I would absolutely recommend getting it serviced or at least looked at by a professional. Just because some seller on ebay or whatever claims the watch has been "checked by our experts", honestly doesen't mean crap. If it ticks it's good to sell and it does not take much to have a watch ticking. Vintage omegas tend to be very good quality and any watchmaker worth their salt should easily be capable of servicing them. The last thing you want is some rusty pinion or dry bearing grinding away in a barely running watch until it inevitably breaks. Repairs are more expensive than services.

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AlexTheWatchmaker

I would absolutely recommend getting it serviced or at least looked at by a professional. Just because some seller on ebay or whatever claims the watch has been "checked by our experts", honestly doesen't mean crap. If it ticks it's good to sell and it does not take much to have a watch ticking. Vintage omegas tend to be very good quality and any watchmaker worth their salt should easily be capable of servicing them. The last thing you want is some rusty pinion or dry bearing grinding away in a barely running watch until it inevitably breaks. Repairs are more expensive than services.

I agree. I purchased this watch from a guy who deals in watches in istanbul. I did go to his office to check it out.

Also, there is one dealer that I regularly deal with, also in my city in istanbul, that I buy and sell some of my watches. Luckily, they know each other, and he told me that this guy's father is a watchmaker and that is his entire business model. He buys vintage watches, his father services the watches and he sell them and guarantees them for 6 months after sale.

Also, it turns out that the other vintage I purchased last month, which is running with 0s/day on wrist, was previously purchased from this guy.

You can never be certain, but I would like to believe them :)

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My vintage Oris, which is only seventy years old, loses far more time. Don't worry about it. It's eighty-four. Don't expect grandpa to be able to run the 100m sprint as fast as he could back in his youth.

Excellent find and wear it well!

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I’d agree with the others… it’s keeping new Seiko time 🤣, so don’t mess with it. If it becomes hard to wind, or points of resistance mid-wind, then I’d take it in.

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I have a large Vintage collection trust me....get it serviced

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Just got the watch back. It is working 10-11

5s/day. Which is very good for an 84 year old watch. I'm happy :)

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This is from a video the watchmaker sent me. I could not find a way to upload a video.

The numbers look very good to me. Can anyone with more experience interpret them? Should I be worried about the beat error?

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