Omega & Grand Seiko

Both a beautiful!

I Like your confidence.

Hells Yes! Absolutely 100% spot on!

No. So many other great ones

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Within this price range, possibly.

Yes absolutely 💯👍

What would possibly be other movements you should consider?

I concur.

I love my vintage Seamaster, and I have no intention of becoming a one-brand-guy, but I have to admit that modern Seamaster is indeed absolutely gorgeous. 😍

A bit of extra reading for whoever maybe wondering why some people are saying yes. The grand cycle spring drive movement is considered a robust movement because of the virtue of electronic breaking. There is no oscillating hearts, and so a sudden shock wouldn't cause a likely pressure against a jewel bearing tooth of the fork as much as a traditional movement. Because there is no fork. In the alternative, Omega coaxial movements have been aggressively improved for anti-magnetism as well as shock. These movements are equally robust. In terms of robustness, these are often competitive with the legendary robustness of Rolex calibers. Granted, each one has tiny quirks that make them vulnerable, even modern day Rolex 3200 calibers. Each considered, they all still lead the pack in terms of robustness and quality.

Ever heard of the El Primero movement? That's one

Spring drive really is the pinnacle of mechanical movements

Amazing timekeeping mechanical performance while reducing friction and wear points, they completely removed the escapement and balance and replaced it with a zero friction alternative and then regulated it by quartz. Awesome.

Yes. It’s a shame the AT doesn’t have better lume design otherwise it’d be an instant GADA.

That SKYFALL AT is SOOOOOO beautiful and the GS is such a leap in watch technology

I would never expect to get mine haha, just lucky i guess 😛

Would be perfect if they have Seiko lume 🤣

You have point 😏

Beautiful watches

I Have this aquaterra, and i don't see that 8500 coaxial is outstanding in any way.

Spring drive win 🥇

I think in this price range yes. The new ATs have the CoAxial 8900 that can be included in the 21st century. Both are great technological advancements. If you go by just the movement I agree with your statement.

Without question, two of the best luxery watches that are more affordable, obtainable, and better designed than Rolex.

Very nice!

Now that’s a killer combination

I think I'd have to agree here.

I think Spring Drive is the most significant leap in caliber design and, perhaps, the only substantial innovation watchmaking has seen since Quartz dropped 50+ years ago. For all the achievements heralded around Daniels’ Co-Axial or Seiko’s Dual-Pulse escapements, or new materials introduced for one component or another, on a practical level, these are still just incremental improvements to existing architectures. Spring Drive was a radical step that seems to solve the most significant problems of mechanical movements (overall accuracy, consistent timekeeping across the entire power-reserve and various positions) and the most significant problems of quartz (disposability and reliance on batteries, inclusive of capacitors for solar that also require replacement, if not as often) while providing the benefits of both as well as the emotional/subjective things we look for as enthusiasts with beautifully finished mechanics we can see at work and a constant-sweep seconds-hand. The latest iteration of the movement increases accuracy even further while also adding a 120-hour power reserve. It’s a brilliant bit of engineering that should have shaken the watch world but I suspect will never get its due because, frankly, it didn’t originate in Europe, where brands still celebrate as grand accomplishments a new technology that will almost, kinda, maybe under the right circumstances, and for a few thousand bucks more, perform nearly as well.

My big (and it is big) complaint about the Spring Drive is that, because Seiko has chosen to keep it exclusive, no independent watchmaker can service the the movement, requiring a long and costly visit to Japan even for recommended maintenance. I’ve never had an issue with Spring Drive that required repair, but it’s the one thing I dread when the time comes…

Thank you so much for your input, very well thought and informative. I enjoyed both Calibers, I believe Co axial still stays true to fully mechanical, it keeps great time during the whole period of power reserve, also extend the time for service too, ive never serviced my watch and its already 6 years since purchase, went for check up and watchmaker says no need to do service for now.

Spring drive is amazing and i cant stop myself looking at the sweeping second hand haha. I dont mind it has to be delivered to Japan for service though, cuz GS is perfection and I want it to be serviced by low skill watchmakers, they might destroy those shiny indexes and hands!

Yep lovely #grandseiko

Both innovative watches very similar in appearance