Oris Big Crown anyone?

I’ve always loved Oris, my father always wears one (a big pointer from the 90s-2000s) and I have a few, just got a new Aquis Date.

I would recommend them!

Thanks a bunch for your recommending words!

My first serious Swiss watch was an Oris Divers 65 (2015) and I loved it so much I bought a second one few years later, Oris X Momotaro. Build quality is top notch and I would absolutely recommend them! You won't regret it. Oris X Cervo Volante is the one that's currently tempting me 🤣

Thanks for your shared experience!

I have to admit the Cervo Volante ones are also highly tempting me :) And due to the simpler movement they are still very price-sensitive.

Love Oris, have a 40mm Big Crown Pointer date with Selitta movement and a Diver 65 w caliber 400.

Nothing but love for my Big Crown. Albeit 40mm is a bigger than I would have prefered, I love the one I have enough to overlook the size. Movement is running at ~+2spd.

The caliber 400 brings a lot of specs for the price point, but I have to warn that it is still a relatively new movement with its quirks. Mine has the jumping minute hand when I pull out the crown(something people are saying has been fixed), and am monitoring it for an eventual service because of some other things I noticed on mine. 

The only reason I am not completely mad about the 400 caliber is because it's a new movement and I had prepared myself for something like this to happen, plus it comes with the 10 year warranty. Still ticks me off a little, because there should not be stuff like this at this price point, if Oris is truely trying to move up-market and compete with brands like Tudor.

The caliber 400 brings a lot of specs for the price point, but I have to warn that it is still a relatively new movement with its quirks. Mine has the jumping minute hand when I pull out the crown(something people are saying has been fixed), and am monitoring it for an eventual service because of somethings I noticed. 

I'll reiterate this. I had been contemplating an Oris with the caliber 400, and my AD assured me that the issue had been fixed. I tried setting the watch multiple times, and 2 out of 3 times, the problem occurred. It wouldn't be a problem if the jump was consistent, since then you could accommodate by simply changing the hand placement before pushing the crown back in. Until this issue is fixed, I'm personally staying away from that caliber. 

Can’t say enough good things about Oris would recommend 

I’ve got my third Oris and I find them totally underrated. The price is very good for what you get and the brand as a whole is super sympathetic, down-to-earth and authentic in my opinion 

Fully agree!

Interesting insights regarding the caliber, thanks a lot.

I have to be honest, that might be a party-pooper for me personally. Especially in regard of the price point of the calibre 403 watch...

What does the movement say? It should have the caliber name engraved on it. I have the Divers Sixty-Five too, which should only exist with the Calibre 400-2 (Generation 2) which has the jumping hand issue fixed. I’ve never experienced this problem so far. 

I had this watch for about 4 months, impulse bought it and loved it, then sold it. The pros are that it's robust and reliable, the case construction, finishing, domed sapphire, dial, and exhibition caseback are really good looking, 10 year warranty is way than what other brands offer. Cons is that movement is fairly new and don't know how it's going to hold up in the long term, 5atm is adequate but not enough for some, and from experience the watch tends to lose more time as power reserve dwindles, all watches do, but this one tends to start deviating further at around 50% power, and it's expensive at retail but if you can find one pre-owned below 2k then it's a fantastic watch (I sold mine for 1850usd).

The reason I sold mine was my ocd really, the deep blue dial doesn't go with lots of straps (goes great with light gray) but I'm particular when matching colors. I also wanted this to be my daily wearer since date says everyday watch for me, but the low accuracy of a mechanical with a date triggered my OCD, this was me having unrealistic expectations, now my daily is a seiko 9F quartz.

So I'd say, yes, go for it, but try to find one pre-owned.

I have the Oris x Hodinkee collab 65 running Cal. 400.

I have the Aquis Caliber 400. On the jumping minute hand:

This is an unfortunate, but unimportant quirk. Prior to pulling the stem out, you just roll it slightly to a neutral position. It’s easy to do by feel. Same after setting the time. You can feel when it will catch and cause the jump and then just give it a quarter roll in the opposite direction and it won’t happen. 
 

Should it happen at this price?  No. Is it an issue? No. 
 

Totally in house, mad specs, fantastic fit and finish, and gorgeous overall looks!  The jumping minute hand is simply a beauty mark on a super model. 

Should it happen at this price?  No. Is it an issue? No. 

My thoughts exactly. TBH this quirk has made me more personable with my watch. The fact that I need to pay extra attention to it as if it were my child, as if I needed another reason to look at my watches 😂. But that's just us, I can see how some will view this as a big no no.

Definitely check out all models if possible, and see if you can find a specific one that has it fixed if it bothers you enough. As @watchesandespresso stated, the 400.2 has this quirk fixed, not sure if the 403 has the same issue.

After some looking into this, the 400.2 should have fixed the issue. The fix should have corrected for time setting when you push the crown back in after setting the time, although it might/can still jump when you pull the crown out.

If this is the case, I personally don't think it would impact the day to day use of the watch, and the quirk will simply be an actual quirk.

Appreciate the insight. I can't say with 100% certainty, but I seem to recall that I was seeing it when pushing the crown in, not when pulling it out.

I would suggest that the OP check the specific watch he is considering if this sounds like it might be an issue for him.  I'm not sure which version of the caliber 400 was involved in the watch that I was looking at my AD, but that was only back in November and the AD assured me that the issue had been fixed, when it clearly wasn't. 

I suspect that for most people, it would not be a show stopper issue, especially if they didn't discover it until they had purchased the watch. For me personally, with my compulsion for my watches to be as accurate as possible, it is a deal breaker, so I would not be prepared to buy one unless I could be 100% assured that the issue had been addressed. Also, even if it may be a quirk that you can live with, it's certainly not a selling feature.

This looks fantastic in the pictures. I’d love to see it in person and try it on wrist.

I absolutely love this watch. Tried it on at my AD last year and loved the look and the inky blue dial. I have a pretty small wrist, so I ended up going for something a bit smaller in the Seiko SJE085, which has some similar vibes (vintage design, inky dark dial,  high polish surfaces, and a higher end movement). I knew I wouldn’t wear either on their supplied straps, so that wasn’t a consideration for me. Plus new, the Seiko was a few hundred bucks less. 

if you like the look, go for it! the warranty should give you some piece of mind re: the movement.  it’s just gorgeous

You‘re a lucky one, I‘ve got the Divers Sixty-Five 12H with the newer generation calibre. The Hodinkee colab looks so good 👌

Thank you very much for your help.

I will definitely make sure to ask my AD about it and check the watch for this quirk being also present on the 403.

Will let you know once I've been to the boutique.

I just ordered a Oris Roberto clemete limited edition just waiting for I really like the looks of the watch as well as the one you are looking at.

Oris released a new big crown date w/ manual movement based on the calibre 400. Worth looking at if you haven't bought the watch yet.

https://www.oris.ch/en/watch/big-crown-calibre-473/01-473-7786-4065-07-5-19-22fc

Wonderful dial and case back, the seethrough movement looks sexy, plus the Cervo Volante strap is a banger!

But the price is a little steep in my humble opinion - what do you think?

Price is definitely steep and kind of mind boggling.

Mine is the other version with the Sellita movement, just bought it a few months ago. It took a long time to get back to rotating in with my other watches I just love it so much. In fact, I reviewed it on WUS. 

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/oris-bcpd-oxblood-10-days-on.5453423/#post-55885979

I'll probably be getting another Oris sooner or later. 

Beautiful watch!

Thank you for your shared thoughts, Dave - appreciate it.