King or no king?

You like what you like. I wouldn't listen to the bashing in my personal opinion. I think if the watch was an Omega, Rolex, AP people would be throwing their wallets at the register. Can you get a Presage with just as nice dial I'm sure but you don't get the same curves and finishing.  

Have you been able to see one in person? I think it's a bit expensive when comparing specs but I also never got to try the watch. That bracelet looks excellent. From the other watches, you own doesn't look like this would be your largest purchase. Personally, I would wait for them to hit the used market in a few years, however, I really like their design. I don't think Seiko will upgrade the movement anytime soon. I would imagine that before they do that they would make 1 or 2 more watches to fall in the King Seiko line.

Thanks guys, I’m not a movement snob and considering the price I might just purchase it. I’m in love with it’s looks, the bracelet and the red dial is stunning. Unfortunately I haven’t seen one in person but I’m sure it’ll be beautiful as my SARX033 a couple years back Which I purchased directly from Japan. This watch is like a girl I dated many years ago in college, she was absolutely beautiful but full of shit. 

I think it's nice looking watch but overpriced considering the movement,  maybe see if you can get a discount when it's been out for a while. The movement bashing is due to the price & also that originally King Seikos had higher end movements in them. They don't make them like they used to lol

It’s a bargain King Seiko in terms of the movement…mine has the 6L35 but I’m also hunting the purple version of the mid tier king seiko…

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If you like it, go for it. Buy what you like and want has always “worked” for me. BTW, the only draw back to Seikos, imho, is they can run way out of spec when you first get them. Happened to me on a US Ice Diver Turtle so I sent it back and now it runs well within specs. Took about two weeks from send off to return but worth the hassle. The long standing rumor/opinion is that Seiko fails to regulate mechanical movements before casing them. So....😉

PS: Rate results is one of my pet peeves. 

Also if you’re really interested on this watch  ask @HotWatchChick69 about it he/she/it can give you an in-depth, play by play, mood changes, inner-subliminal feelings, review about it 😉 and don’t get him/her/they started with movements… 😳

If you like it and it would make you happy you have your answer :-)  Get it!!  It's gorgeous.  

Here's what I wrote in a different thread about the 2022 King Seiko:

Here's what I would have to say:

• If you are a movement snob, then the watch definitely isn't for you
• I have a bunch of Omega and GS in my collection, and what I've come to decide is that I personally couldn't care less about the movement inside a watch, so long as the movement is reliable.  21,600 or 25,200 or 28,800 or 36,000 vph?  Don't give 2 sh*ts.  The movement can bend space/time and create wormholes to Narnia?  Not a fan of the C.S. Lewis series.  So long as it's reliable and easy / cheap to service and maintain, and I'm all good.  In fact, I'm slowly divesting myself of all my GS hi-beat movement watches, 'cause I just don't care about the movement - unless it's spring drive, but even then, only because of the smooth sweep of the seconds hand...  it's just crazy mesmerizing and great for controlling my ADHD
• If you don't care about the movement, then the only things left to care about are a) design, b) fit and finish, and c) comfort on the wrist, yeah?  
• a) Design - If you're into the 60's aesthetic, but want modern reliability, can't think of a better choice
• b) Fit and finish - Out of this world good.  I can't tell the difference between this and my GS watches on that front
• c) Comfort - That's all subjective.  But, at 37mm diameter and 42.5mm lug-to-lug, it's gonna fit nearly every wrist out there.  And, the 7-link bracelet articulates amazingly, and is super breathable, so perfectly comfortable in hot weather.  Finally, all the links are effectively "half link" sized, so again, lots of articulation and comfort and designed for easy fitting

Hope that helps!

Put it on a dark brown leather strap, and it really pops.  The finishing is out of this world good!!!

Feeling the purple too...but you're in range for alot of other stuff at that point

i agree hence you go with a watch that will speak to you like this one, this one speaks to me in a sexy, lusTy voice..”helllooo ichi… you and I are meant to be and we can look sexy together 🥰…foreva !!” And I picture her looking at me like this

If it tells time, its a beaut!

My only problem with it is the price puts it squarely in competition with Longines and Oris. I like the new KS, but I don't think I would choose it where it's positioned (would probably rather keep going to get a Grand Seiko).

If you put the Seiko movement on a timegrapher, and compare it to what is coming out of Switzerland at a similar price, you can tell the difference immediately. I'm not even talking about seconds per day, but about the amplitude and the beat error. It's a different category, and I fully expect to regulate some of my Seiko movements. That being said, 90% of my Seikos and NH35 clones are +/- 5 spd. Some needed some help. The last $30 NH35 out of China ran at +1 spd, but I laughed when I saw that.

That being said, these movements will function for a long time, and a lot of people can service or replace them in their sleep.

But ultimately, that is not what Seiko is about. Seiko is about nice designs, a feeling of joy when you look at the watch, starting with inexpensive quartz watches for specific markets.

I mean, take the 4R34. The NH clones are already available. It seems like Seiko is purposely turning movements into a commodity.

OMG...  who is that?  Asking for a friend.

I dunno but looks like blonde Selena Gomez back in days 🤫

Overall, the movement isn't bad its just definitely a cost-cutting move from Seiko. I wouldn't let it put you off of the red dial, because there aren't many red dialed watches that compete with it. I have a red dialed presage with the same movement, and I think it works quite well! I don't see Seiko upgrading the movement without also giving it a decent price increase; I think it would be worth trying this on. 

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I definitely like the looks of the King Seiko.  I thought it might be my next Seiko.  However, with most decent watch brands, you can kind of expect reasonably decent timekeeping across their model ranges… but not Seiko.

It seems that the timekeeping on this model is so bad that no reviewer I’ve watched would even address it except to say that it’s bad.  Now that’s bad.  Really bad.

Especially at this price point. You don’t have to be a movement snob to expect decent timekeeping at this price point. 

Yep but not at retail. 

 If they put a better movement it could almost compete with an entry-level GS near the same price point.

I get it why  seiko fans, specially vintage seiko fans are cold to this one. to me, since i am just a casual watch enthusiast, I'd be lying to myself if I say that I care about the movement that much. as long as it looks beautiful and speaks to my taste, count me in 😀I still have to see these new kings in the metal. I wanna see first hand if the finishing and build quality justifies the price increase compared to other presage models (since apparently they have the same movement).