[question] Is a true GMT wearable to track local time via hour-hand?

Hi everyone! I'm looking for my next watch. I want to buy a GMT watch. I'm not a traveler, but I work with folks who are based in the different TZs. I want to track their TZ via GMT hand, and my local time - via hour hand. Mainly my question is: is it wearable to use a true GMT as a caller GMT?

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Yes, you chose which time zone displayed on which function. The Office GMT is the the more restrictive movement.

It just might be confusing as one is used to look at the hour hand to tell the time live.

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Sure. Just remember local time will be tracked on a 24hr scale.

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Maybe I misunderstood / or missing something (so please feel free to correct).

In both Caller and Teaveler you can set the GMT hand *(poor word choice I meant time)* independent of the Hour (and the hour dictates your date wheel).

*update: you have to preset the time as an offset. As it’s the Hourhand that is set independently.

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sam_kula

Maybe I misunderstood / or missing something (so please feel free to correct).

In both Caller and Teaveler you can set the GMT hand *(poor word choice I meant time)* independent of the Hour (and the hour dictates your date wheel).

*update: you have to preset the time as an offset. As it’s the Hourhand that is set independently.

hmm.. I thought it was impossible to set GMT hand independently on a true GMT watch.

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solidyetti

Sure. Just remember local time will be tracked on a 24hr scale.

I want to track my local time via 12h hand as usual.

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vitstr

hmm.. I thought it was impossible to set GMT hand independently on a true GMT watch.

So I just got a Traveler GMT (Miyota 9075). You’re correct it’s the bit of a backwards way to set local vs GMT.

  • Crown 1st pull is setting local hour (and the date wheel on every 2 revolutions)

  • Crown 2nd is setting time (Hour, Min, and GMT hands move).

So you can set the hour to local time offset from the GMT(1st crown). So if the GMT is at 1300 and your local is offset is 1 hour ahead, then set the hour to 2pm (make sure the Date wheel is in the PM).

Now you have preset the offset. Go set the time correctly (2nd crown). And now your offset should show local time in hour and the other time for the GMT.

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Vinnie.Fox

After watching the video I understand that a caller GMT is more convenient for me.

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sam_kula

So I just got a Traveler GMT (Miyota 9075). You’re correct it’s the bit of a backwards way to set local vs GMT.

  • Crown 1st pull is setting local hour (and the date wheel on every 2 revolutions)

  • Crown 2nd is setting time (Hour, Min, and GMT hands move).

So you can set the hour to local time offset from the GMT(1st crown). So if the GMT is at 1300 and your local is offset is 1 hour ahead, then set the hour to 2pm (make sure the Date wheel is in the PM).

Now you have preset the offset. Go set the time correctly (2nd crown). And now your offset should show local time in hour and the other time for the GMT.

Yes, it works. This is a workaround to use true as caller. The inconvenience begins if you sometimes need to change the time zone that you track via 24h hand.

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vitstr

I want to track my local time via 12h hand as usual.

You already figured it out, but yea, caller GMT is better for your use case. Actually why it's called a "caller" tbh.

For not a lot of money, the Timex Q GMT is a heckuva deal for a caller type GMT.

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vitstr

Yes, it works. This is a workaround to use true as caller. The inconvenience begins if you sometimes need to change the time zone that you track via 24h hand.

Completely agree. My bad on saying the GMT hand can be moved independently. I meant to say you can pick any two times with an offset ✌️

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vitstr

After watching the video I understand that a caller GMT is more convenient for me.

Yes, a caller/office GMT would be best for what you are describing for your work situation, since you can set the GMT hand using the first crown position quick set feature, but a true/traveller GMT could work pretty easily. You would have to reset the time twice; the first time would be resetting the time to the time zone of your colleague using the second crown position and the second would be using the first crown position quick set feature to return the hour hand to your time zone. 😜

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vitstr

After watching the video I understand that a caller GMT is more convenient for me.

A traveler can be used like a caller if it has a bidirectional rotating bezel. Set you GMT to local time with the hour, then rotate the bezel to the time of your clients to the GMT hand.

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Both types of GMT function in the same way. The difference is how you set/operate them. Regardless of which type, both allow you to track a second time zone/24 hour time with the fourth hand.

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One of the cheapest watches with a Swiss quartz GMT is made by Invicta for under a hundred bucks. Swiss Ronda 505-24 GMT movement. I built one that cost me 30 bucks.

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In all cases, the 12 hour hand is used to track wherever you are. The 24 hour GMT hand is used to track the place you are referencing.

The only difference between the types of GMT is how easy it is to move one hand or the other.

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Vinnie.Fox

Buenas muy buen aporte, realmente soy nuevo en la plataforma, pregunta como logro colgar videos, solo puedo subir fotos y videos de mi dispositivo... Desde ya muchas gracias

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Either will work just fine

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If you're going to use a Traveler's GMT without traveling, here is what I would suggest.

1-Set your local time on the GMT hand referencing the 24-hour scale.

2-Set your local time and date using the first pull position of the crown on the 12-hour hand, like you would on a regular 3-hander.

Here is an example below, which I just set at 8 pm on the 22nd of Feb:

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Now, you might ask, why set the two hands on the same time zone? This is where the rotating bezel comes handy (and why the Black Bay Pro is such a terrible GMT watch by the way).

If you’re in New York and you want to know the time in London UK, rotate the bezel in the appropriate direction by 5 hours. For L.A., opposite direction by 3 hours past your local reference and so on.

below: 8pm in NYC, 1am tomorrow in the UK. Notice the time difference at the top position of the bezel (+5 hours)

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below: 8 pm in NYC, 5 pm in L.A. (-3 hours)

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by the way, this solution also works with a Caller's GMT, since you're actually not resetting the hands but the bezel.

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tenacitas

Buenas muy buen aporte, realmente soy nuevo en la plataforma, pregunta como logro colgar videos, solo puedo subir fotos y videos de mi dispositivo... Desde ya muchas gracias

Solo hablo un poco de español (Spanglish, en realidad) pero entiendo tu pregunta. Puedes publicar videos usando el botón de enlace (en dispositivos móviles está en el menú de formato de texto, en negrita y cursiva, etc.) o simplemente pegando el enlace en tu comentario. Debería insertar el vídeo por ti.

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You may also want to check out the Ronda quartz 515.24h movement. Its a caller, and the GMT hand can be set independently of the hour hand without hacking the movement. I've found it to be very accurate so far. I set my watch with this movement about 3 weeks ago and so far it hasn't lost or gained a single second

The Addiesdive AD2035 is a BB Pro homage that uses this movement and can be had under $100 USD.

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if you work with people across multiple time zones, a world timer is probably the best option, like the recently (e.g., today) re-released Farer World Timer series or (my personal favorite) Omega Aqua Terra World Timer.

You have your home time on the 12 hour hand, and the 24 scale combined with the cities around the dial tell you the time everywhere else in the world at a glance.

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The fourth hand tracks the second time zone, usually set via a 24hr bezel. The other 3 hands operate as usual.

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You've got the answers here, I need not reiterate. But please come back and tell us what you buy!

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RT_19X

if you work with people across multiple time zones, a world timer is probably the best option, like the recently (e.g., today) re-released Farer World Timer series or (my personal favorite) Omega Aqua Terra World Timer.

You have your home time on the 12 hour hand, and the 24 scale combined with the cities around the dial tell you the time everywhere else in the world at a glance.

I would say, I mostly work with folks from NYC/Chicago and I know that the difference is 1 hour. It’s not complicated to track NYC tz, for example and calculate the Chicago tz. I’m based in Eastern Europe. So I don’t think the world timer will work better. Otherwise thanks for your advice.

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timepiece.pete

You've got the answers here, I need not reiterate. But please come back and tell us what you buy!

Sure, I’ll be back. I’m not in a hurry. Probably I’ll bye new watch during next 2-3 months. I have two options: Seiko Alpinist GMT and Farer Lander. I have diver watch in my collection. So I don’t consider GMT with rotating bezel and wanna get something like field/tools watch to diversify my collection. But I’m also opened for another options in $1000-$1500 price range.

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vitstr

Sure, I’ll be back. I’m not in a hurry. Probably I’ll bye new watch during next 2-3 months. I have two options: Seiko Alpinist GMT and Farer Lander. I have diver watch in my collection. So I don’t consider GMT with rotating bezel and wanna get something like field/tools watch to diversify my collection. But I’m also opened for another options in $1000-$1500 price range.

The Farer Lander is a truly fantastic watch. I know, I have one.

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timepiece.pete

The Farer Lander is a truly fantastic watch. I know, I have one.

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Looks beautiful!

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Reizer

Solo hablo un poco de español (Spanglish, en realidad) pero entiendo tu pregunta. Puedes publicar videos usando el botón de enlace (en dispositivos móviles está en el menú de formato de texto, en negrita y cursiva, etc.) o simplemente pegando el enlace en tu comentario. Debería insertar el vídeo por ti.

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vitstr

I would say, I mostly work with folks from NYC/Chicago and I know that the difference is 1 hour. It’s not complicated to track NYC tz, for example and calculate the Chicago tz. I’m based in Eastern Europe. So I don’t think the world timer will work better. Otherwise thanks for your advice.

Yeah, just get a caller-style GMT and set the 24 hand to eastern US time zone and you’re good. A world timer would be overkill, if not less useful as they can be harder to read.