Tudor Ranger vs Grand Seiko SBGP013

Ranger bracelet and clasp, all day every day. They're quite different aesthetically so it's really hard to say. Depends on what you want. As you say, it's very subjective. I'd go for the Ranger personally (and had one). There are other GS models on my list but they all offer something very different. I'd love to try our a Spring Drive above all else.

For a daily wear, I would go for Ranger for the bracelet. It would be more comfortable.

GS refs mean nothing to me. Pics would help 😩

Grand Seiko. Now what was the question?

Ranger wins for m based in indices. WhiIe I am a sucker for good applied indices, no lume on a sporty/GADA watch is a big negative.

I’m probably going to be a bit controversial here, but if I’m dropping $3000 on a watch, I want the watch to look and feel like I dropped $3000 on it.

The Tudor Ranger is so utilitarian with its all printed dial, all brushed case, that it almost looks… cheap? I know the “beauty is on the inside” on this one and carries a manufacture movement and COSC certified and the usual spec sheet but I’m terrified of showing this piece to somebody and they going “It cost how much? It doesn’t look that expensive... You got scammed, mate” or “You can get a San Martin with he same finishing for 300 bucks”. Just my personal opinion though.

The GS is an expensive watch and it is finished like an expensive watch and it glimmers like an expensive watch. Issues like limited adjustability can be solved by swapping the strap for something else, which shouldn’t be a problem with such a versatile design.

GS is more versatile IMO but the bracelet I've heard isn't great. Have you tried them both on?

Oh man what a tough one. Depends what you want to use it for and what type of job or lifestyle you live. If I needed something rough and ready and outdoorsy I would go for the Ranger... If I however needed an office watch or something that wont see much physical activity then the GS for sure. I just would not be able to forgive myself if I scratched that polishing while fishing or hiking or something.

For me, Ranger all day simply because the GS is way too dressy for me.

I understand your perspective. While "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", I don't think - with my very limited knowledge - any other brands could just San Martin a GS. Says a lot about how difficult it is to even come close to the GS' finishing.

I have tried both but have no experience with how their bracelets wear for a considerable amount of time. If we're solely talking about the bracelet, it's hard to deny that the Ranger will have a perceivable advantage.

What a good problem to have eh? Haha Well, I would want to wear these two in a smart casual office setting and maybe just about anywhere that doesn't involve sports. I have a bb58, a Superocean, a Hamilton Intramatic chrono, and an Archimede Flieger 200 that I wear for the office. I don't think I have something on the dressier side in my collection and was thinking if the GS can fill that without being to formal.

I agree that the GS could be on the dressier side. Whether that benefits us or we use that an excuse is one of the perks of this hobby 😅

The Tudor is more distinctive looking. Go for it.

Grand Seiko any day

I’d take the GS all day long

I have both, but it’s difficult to compare. The Ranger is more of a tool watch in my opinion. The bracelet is superior on the Ranger hands down. However, the GS bracelet is not nearly as bad as all the forums indicate.

Ranger thanks

Would pick tudor ranger everyday

I had the Ranger as well as a Grand Seiko (US fall edition). I really wanted to love the Ranger but after a while it became boring to look at and experience. Something about it just does not hold interest over time (for me). Ended up selling it and got a BB54 which is a great watch however that one too doesn’t come anywhere close to the GS. The GS is so wonderful that even after a long time of owning it now I still find myself stuck gazing at it because it’s just so amazing. GS is just on a different level. IMO it conveys value of more than like 5-6 its price.

I like them both but I’d get the GS. I’ve always wanted a 9F and never quite got round to getting one despite trying one on a number of occasions. The Ranger is the only Tudor that grabs my attention but my Sinn 556 feels its space in my collection.

Ranger. It's such a distinctive watch. I find GS designs a little repetitive and indistinct. While the Ranger is rather plain, the sun total of it is appealing (and I've tried it on) and has a lasting elegance while also not being too formal like the GS.

Two totally different ends of the spectrum you got there. A pure utilitarian field watch vs a dressier and arguably better finished quartz

That was intentional. That's why the question was which gives you more for the money. Still, a lot of interesting comments were made.

Another thing to keep in mind, your talking quartz vs mechanical. Though the ranger presents itself as a "tool" watch, the GSs quartz will survive any impact that would put the ranger out of commission (though for such a beautiful watch it would be more painful to ding that up than the Ranger). For what it's worth, I'd go GS myself, the finishing of it screams a watch that is twice the price.

Wow, have not seen one comment about that robustness! That's a dressy piece you wouldn't worry too much then. 100m of wr plus that toughness - screams so much of a good daily driver for me. Awesome info! Thanks!

Grand seiko in my opinion. I honestly find their quartz movements fascinating and great for a grab and go option. Quartz is looked down on, but the can still be great and done with a lot of personality them.

I think is pears to apples. The #tudor Ranger is more a tool watch (a field watch to be more specific); the Grand #seiko is more a dress watch. So I don´t think they are comparable.

One more spec:

GS features jump hour adjustment

The Grand Seiko, but I would put it on a leather strap.