Happy New Year! שנה טובה
Happy Jewish New Year to all my Jewish friends, and to everyone, may we all have a year of health, happiness, and an enjoyment of watches!
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Cheers!
Shana Tova!
Leshana tovah tikatev v’tichatem ! May HaShem bless everyone here with a Sweet, Happy and Healthy New Year !
Is spring drive ok to wear during the Sabbath?
Leshana tovah to all. But, damn, I can't completely ignore the irony of a Rosh Hashanah celebration centering on a Swiss watch. At least it's not a Fleiger?
Is spring drive ok to wear during the Sabbath?
ask your local rabbi. 😁
Is spring drive ok to wear during the Sabbath?
I'm no talmudic scholar, but I'm gonna theorize that the winding of a watch, even if automatically done by the movement of your wrist, wouldn't be allowed on the Sabbath. This leaves the options of wearing a manual watch that you would fully wind before sundown and then not again until the following evening or perhaps a quartz watch, which requires no "work" on the part of the wearer. Third option is, of course, having a Shabbos Goy wear your watch on the Sabbath and announce the time to you in pre-set increments. That said, I skipped Sunday School a LOT, so do consult your local Chabad.
May you and your family be blessed and highly favored
Is spring drive ok to wear during the Sabbath?
I advise you ask your Rabbi. I am observant and anything that has not been resolved or is disputed by Torah scholars are best avoided. I know my Casio's that light when I tilt them, or have alarms or chimes as well as Smart Watches are not allowed. Which Spring Drive do you have ? I love them all.
ask your local rabbi. 😁
You beat me to it ! Shalom !
Shalom!
Shalom Shalom! ✡
!שנה טובה
I'm no talmudic scholar, but I'm gonna theorize that the winding of a watch, even if automatically done by the movement of your wrist, wouldn't be allowed on the Sabbath. This leaves the options of wearing a manual watch that you would fully wind before sundown and then not again until the following evening or perhaps a quartz watch, which requires no "work" on the part of the wearer. Third option is, of course, having a Shabbos Goy wear your watch on the Sabbath and announce the time to you in pre-set increments. That said, I skipped Sunday School a LOT, so do consult your local Chabad.
Ok. I’ll chime in here (haha. Watch joke!)
I have been learning Talmud every day (Daf Yomi), although I’m not qualified to make a decision for you. However, what I have learned is this:
The first issue is “carrying” without an eiruv. Most opinions is that it is permitted, since it can be considered clothing or jewelry, which is permitted.
The second issue is “mukseh”. This would only be a problem with a stopped watch, unless it’s the type of watch you’d wear even if it wasn’t telling the correct time. Then even a stopped watch is ok.
The third issue is the winding, either manually or automatically. If it’s already running, then many don’t have a problem with winding it manually because it’s not considered fixing it; it’s a regular part of wearing a watch. Also, there’s no electricity involved. With an automatic watch, one can be even more lenient. This is because the arm is not being moved for the sole purpose of winding the watch. Edit: it’s a little more problematic if the watch has stopped.
Most of these decisions were made before quartz watches existed. I can tell you that I have on good authority that an Apple Watch can be worn on the Sabbath if it’s for medical reasons, even though one may accidentally raise their arm to see the time. As long as it’s not the only way of finding out the time. Case in point: I got an Apple Watch for my mother for the fall protection and emergency 911 call. An expert on the field of Shabbat and technology said it was fine.
Bottom line as said before: ask your local rabbi. Have a happy new year!
Shaman Tovah my friend
I'm just hoping I don't have to lick honey off my watch.
Ok. I’ll chime in here (haha. Watch joke!)
I have been learning Talmud every day (Daf Yomi), although I’m not qualified to make a decision for you. However, what I have learned is this:
The first issue is “carrying” without an eiruv. Most opinions is that it is permitted, since it can be considered clothing or jewelry, which is permitted.
The second issue is “mukseh”. This would only be a problem with a stopped watch, unless it’s the type of watch you’d wear even if it wasn’t telling the correct time. Then even a stopped watch is ok.
The third issue is the winding, either manually or automatically. If it’s already running, then many don’t have a problem with winding it manually because it’s not considered fixing it; it’s a regular part of wearing a watch. Also, there’s no electricity involved. With an automatic watch, one can be even more lenient. This is because the arm is not being moved for the sole purpose of winding the watch. Edit: it’s a little more problematic if the watch has stopped.
Most of these decisions were made before quartz watches existed. I can tell you that I have on good authority that an Apple Watch can be worn on the Sabbath if it’s for medical reasons, even though one may accidentally raise their arm to see the time. As long as it’s not the only way of finding out the time. Case in point: I got an Apple Watch for my mother for the fall protection and emergency 911 call. An expert on the field of Shabbat and technology said it was fine.
Bottom line as said before: ask your local rabbi. Have a happy new year!
You study the Daf daily, that is fantastic. Is this your first cycle ? I have studied Gemara over the years and have been thinking about starting this daily learning. So many ways to do this with so many people now. The big celebration at the end of the 7 years looks like a lot of fun.
You study the Daf daily, that is fantastic. Is this your first cycle ? I have studied Gemara over the years and have been thinking about starting this daily learning. So many ways to do this with so many people now. The big celebration at the end of the 7 years looks like a lot of fun.
First cycle. Started after the last big Siyum in 2020. I do DafBySruly and you can see me on the live Zoom. I think we just hit the halfway mark. Definitely need to buy a nice watch when I finish the 7.5 year cycle!
Toda raba!
You guys have too many rules , I am a Quantum physics Daoist, Rosecrucian , Veda reading Buddhist, whatever I feel makes more sense on the day type of heathen . God bless your families though and may you celebrate with great family around you .
Happy New Year
I'm no talmudic scholar, but I'm gonna theorize that the winding of a watch, even if automatically done by the movement of your wrist, wouldn't be allowed on the Sabbath. This leaves the options of wearing a manual watch that you would fully wind before sundown and then not again until the following evening or perhaps a quartz watch, which requires no "work" on the part of the wearer. Third option is, of course, having a Shabbos Goy wear your watch on the Sabbath and announce the time to you in pre-set increments. That said, I skipped Sunday School a LOT, so do consult your local Chabad.
Why are you not allowed to wind a watch on the Sabbath? Also why is Jewish new year in September?
Gut Yontiff!
Why are you not allowed to wind a watch on the Sabbath? Also why is Jewish new year in September?
In the strictest orthodox Jewish tradition, the sabbath was the the day god rested after creation and so no work can be done at all—this includes even the most basic acts of turning on lights. Winding a watch would, theoretically, fall under the category of "work."
The Jewish New Year is separate from the Gregorian calendar and pre-dates it by thousands of years (this year is 5784, rather than 2023). The Jewish new year centers at the harvest (autumn) rather than around the winter solstice, which was a pagan tradition adopted by the Christians.
This is a VERY basic, borderline-ignorant explanation, but it's a start...
You guys really have to ask a wizzard wether or not youre allowed to wear a certain type watch on a special couple of days a year? What happens when you wear the "wrong" watch?😄
Religion, just wow.😄
You guys really have to ask a wizzard wether or not youre allowed to wear a certain type watch on a special couple of days a year? What happens when you wear the "wrong" watch?😄
Religion, just wow.😄
the Grand Wizard is KKK I think.
Happy new year with the same wishes to you as well. I didn't know that Jewish celebrate new year now but it's cool, I like the idea of having two new years in any given year. My god and religion says I can wear any watch except that colorful dial Rolex made for celebration. If I would wear it than I would go straight to hell so I'm better to stay away from it.
Why are you not allowed to wind a watch on the Sabbath? Also why is Jewish new year in September?
You are allowed to, but the issue comes down to the 39 classifications of the word “work”. That’s why you have to be a Talmud scholar or ask a local Rabbi! For instance, lighting a fire is considered “work”, and from there can be derived a bunch of other things. Fixing something broken is considered “work”, but most consider winding a watch not fixing something broken, so it is allowed.
Why are you not allowed to wind a watch on the Sabbath? Also why is Jewish new year in September?
The Jewish calendar is lunar based, thus having a moon complication is helpful. This month, Tishray, started two nights ago with the new moon. New months always start with the new moon. Tishray is always the first month and coincides with Autumn. Since the lunar and solar months/years don’t match up perfectly, a “leap month” is added periodically to keep Tishray in the Autumn month. The Islamic calendar is also lunar but they don’t add a leap month. This is why Ramadan cycles around the solar calendar and is fixed to a season. The Christian calendar uses a lunar calculation for Easter which is why it falls out during Passover almost every year.
You are allowed to, but the issue comes down to the 39 classifications of the word “work”. That’s why you have to be a Talmud scholar or ask a local Rabbi! For instance, lighting a fire is considered “work”, and from there can be derived a bunch of other things. Fixing something broken is considered “work”, but most consider winding a watch not fixing something broken, so it is allowed.
Many technicalities there as one could consider winding a watch as fixing it since it will not run otherwise.