Omega Speedmaster Reduced?

Photo 1: Reduced. Photo 2: Pro.

I like the Speedmasters. I always have. A bit big for my liking, but still, i like 'm. The Speedmaster reduced is a 39mm version of the Speedmaster mostly produced in the 90's. The movement is regarded a the lesser one compared to the Pro, the reduced uses an automatic ETA with a chronograph module on top of it. Furthermore, the dial layout is a little different, the 5 minute markers are numbered, making the dial a little busier. Not in an unpleasant way, in my opinion.

Question.

On the internet the Pro gets all the credit, the Reduced gets hardly any love. Mostly because of the movement used. The (huge) price difference reflects that. It is 'dirt cheap' compared to its bigger brother.

Is this Reduced a NO-GO for you?

After some research yesterday - i really like it :-)

I like the size, i like the dial and i don't dislike the movement - i have other watches with the same movement and that did,'t stop me from buying. And as a bonus, i like the serviceability of this movement. For me it is a thumbs up!

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Have you looked at the new 38mm (majority ladies models). But they have one black version with round dials & more like the smaller pro. Much nicer in style than the reduced, which looks odd with the sun dial placement and numerals

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I find the Speedie pro too big for my liking and always preferred the Reduced. Although I wish its dial layout was closer to the original because it's not as much of a looker despite its better case proportions for smaller wrists.

In a trend where every manufacturer is pushing out smaller sports models in 38-39mm, it boggles my mind that Omega still hasn't made any move to re-introduce a modern version of their 90s midsized Seamaster either. And no bracelet improvements. And no on-the-fly adjustment clasp. 🤷

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McBeardy

Have you looked at the new 38mm (majority ladies models). But they have one black version with round dials & more like the smaller pro. Much nicer in style than the reduced, which looks odd with the sun dial placement and numerals

🙏haven’t seen them, but will check them out

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You are absolutely right. The watch is super nice.

You definitely get the original speedmaster-vibes 😍🔥👍

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The reduced is a great watch.

The movement may not be as prestigious but in my mind the auto movement is a lot easier to live with than the hand wind.

The size is a lot better too, and if you look at the models from 2006 the dial is different from the one you've shown, the crystal is sapphire, the WR is increased to 100m and the clasp is much better. They are rarer though so cost a little more.

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I think the movement is the source of most of the reasons it is not as liked. The ETA with a module on top is quite notorious for being hard and expensive to service. The movement places the subdials in a bit strange position compared to the moonwatch. The bracelet being only 18mm also means it might feel a bit small on many people. The moonwatch is one of those watches that hides its 42mm size really well and wears small (depending of the strap/bracelet).

Of course there is the story of the watch going to the moon so that is a real selling point for many people.

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I typically like smaller watches but I do prefer the Pro to the Reduced, just based on the dial layout. Contrary to what many may think about the Reduced movement, it’s actually harder to service than the Speedy Pro movement. The base ETA in the Reduced is a standard movement and easily serviced. The chrono module in the Reduced is very hard to service and most independents won’t touch it. It’s important that the main movement and module both get serviced as the running seconds hand is part of the module, so contrary to what many say, it’s just as important to service the chrono module as it is the main movement. If they aren’t going to service the chrono module, the rest of the service is rather pointless. Omega doesn’t even service the chrono module themselves. They send it back to the manufacturer who rebuilds them. They’re hard enough to work on that Omega doesn’t even do it. The Speedy pro uses a Lemania 1873 as a base movement, which is in an integrated chrono and is MUCH easier to service than the Reduced is. I wouldn’t say I’m a Speedy nut, but it’s one of my favorite watches and I know a lot more about them than the average person. If you have any questions, holler at me!

TLDR: Speedy Reduced movements can be serviced, but are far from easy, quite the opposite really.

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I love it, perfect size.

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I prefer the reduced over the Pro or the new 38mm. It has a great vintage feel due to it’s size, shape and bracelet. The Pro feels too big on my wrist. The 38mm is too thick for it’s diameter and ends up sitting funny on my wrist.

My local watchmaker assures me that he has no issues servicing the chrono module on the reduced. I still kick myself for not buying the fully serviced example he was selling from his shop.

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Maybe throw in the Omega F.O.I.S. (311.32.40.30.01.001) into the mix. 39.7mm

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doolittle

Maybe throw in the Omega F.O.I.S. (311.32.40.30.01.001) into the mix. 39.7mm

Or the Trilogy Speedy? 38.6mm, 311.10.39.30.01.001

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+1 I've read that the chronograph module is quite difficult and therefore costly to service. On the flip side I've also read that the 3220 movement is quite reliable.

I came across this article of someone stripping and servicing the movement when I was doing my own research of the watch:

https://onatelier.co.uk/omega-speedmaster-175-0032-1-reduced-calibre-3220-dubois-depraz-service-repair

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Love 'em both

My choice would be the mk11, tonneau cased auto if going vintage, or the Trilogy for modern

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Take a look at the Speedmaster Date (3511 models). In the reduced case but uses a Valjoux movement and wears perfectly on my 6.75” wrist.

It should be less expensive to service than the reduced except by Omega. They will charge the same for any Chronograph - $900- per my conversation with them a couple of months ago. I found out the hard way when I lost a pusher. Thank goodness for competent independent watchmakers.

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Yes, I like it. Especially the two tone models…

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Speedy reduced all day, on my list of next purchases soon! Love it and happy that its actually not nearly as expensive!

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I almost bought a Reduced, they are very cool and if you have a small wrist, it's a great option.

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In terms of "serviceability of the movement" - my understanding is it's actually *harder to service than a Pro because of the way the movements are stacked. Often the Chrono module just ends up getting tossed.

Additionally, for my 6.75" wrist it was arguably TOO small. Personal preference, but it felt weird to have a tool style watch be so tiny and with a 18mm bracelet.

If you like it, go for it though. The price difference to the Pro truly is ridiculous, and anyone who tells you it's not a "real" Moonwatch can go kick rocks.

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Dougabug

The reduced is a great watch.

The movement may not be as prestigious but in my mind the auto movement is a lot easier to live with than the hand wind.

The size is a lot better too, and if you look at the models from 2006 the dial is different from the one you've shown, the crystal is sapphire, the WR is increased to 100m and the clasp is much better. They are rarer though so cost a little more.

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Thanks for the tip - you are right the model from 2006 is better looking

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I have a nonpro Speedmaster 3210.50 - I prefer it over the reduced one because it's 40mm with 19mm lugs and uses a Valjoux 7750 movement which is easier and cheaper to service. Plus it has applied markers and not just painted on which ages better if you ask me. It's worth considering.

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I can't buy the pro because the 12 o clock marker looks like a penis.

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ckim4watches

I can't buy the pro because the 12 o clock marker looks like a penis.

Now I cannot unsee it! 🙃