A sad day.....

Well I never thought I'd end up feeling this way, I started my watch journey with this brand and I definitely still love their vintage stuff. But sorry seiko your asking too much money for the value were getting. You may want to go up market well thats fine but make watches that live up to that standard with a QC that matches the quality of the price. I think seiko have shot them selves in the foot, especially when citizen can build a similar watch for half the money with better QC. What do people think? I.m not anti seiko as I use to be a seiko fan boy,just interesting to see what people think. Personally I don't think you get value for money and QC is crap.

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My eye is mostly for vintage Seiko watches, so I'm not really bothered by their business decisions 

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Seiko has their name and they're riding on it. With all of the micro brand options out there now, there's no need for a new seiko. It IS a bit offensive when they use pressed clasps and hardlex on watches over 400 bucks....

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Seiko bracelets rattle at all price points. Now Islander watches has some good products to look at. the 26 movement should have been replaced by the 36 years ago. Orient isn't much better being owned by Seiko. The upside is when they quit you just drop in an inexpensive movement for less than cleaning it.

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Trooper

Seiko has their name and they're riding on it. With all of the micro brand options out there now, there's no need for a new seiko. It IS a bit offensive when they use pressed clasps and hardlex on watches over 400 bucks....

Yeh they do like their pressed clasps thats for sure 👍 

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OldSnafu

Seiko bracelets rattle at all price points. Now Islander watches has some good products to look at. the 26 movement should have been replaced by the 36 years ago. Orient isn't much better being owned by Seiko. The upside is when they quit you just drop in an inexpensive movement for less than cleaning it.

Very true 👍 

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shazerbot

My eye is mostly for vintage Seiko watches, so I'm not really bothered by their business decisions 

Yes I definitely like their vintage stuff so well made and top quality. 👍

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Just watching this one play out - it’s nothing I’ve not said already, and people wonder why I’m not on the Seiko train.

@Metalguru68 - you have my sympathies. Perhaps a shopping trip on AliExpress or eBay might make you feel better. No pin-levers though…

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What got me thinking about seiko's pricing was the cost of some of the seiko 5's some getting close to the 300 pound mark which seems a bit steep, but what finally put the final nail in the coffin was the new solar dive watch which I really liked as it had a 38.5mm case and looked really nice until I saw the price 500+ pounds 😯 what do you get for that? Pressed clasp,hollow end links,quartz solar movement oh but you also get sapphire crystal (big deal). Def not worth the price. 

Just for example take a look at the citizen ray mears tough eco drive it has a titanium mono block case, sapphire crystal,ecodrive movement and 300m wr and in my opinion better QC and finishing for £300. 

Its a shame seiko have gone this route 😪 i will stick to vintage seiko's now and look elsewhere for new pieces.

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Over priced !

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chronotriggered

Just watching this one play out - it’s nothing I’ve not said already, and people wonder why I’m not on the Seiko train.

@Metalguru68 - you have my sympathies. Perhaps a shopping trip on AliExpress or eBay might make you feel better. No pin-levers though…

Just waiting on the citizen tough to be delivered on Monday thatll cheer me up lol.

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Metalguru68

Just waiting on the citizen tough to be delivered on Monday thatll cheer me up lol.

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There we go.

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I'm a big fan of Seiko but I agree, they are in danger of killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

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Metalguru68

Just waiting on the citizen tough to be delivered on Monday thatll cheer me up lol.

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The Citizen 'Ray Mears' is a truly great watch. It looks good, has all the right ingredients and is one of those watches to which 'this is the only watch you need' applies. This is the one I would keep if I had to get rid of the rest of my collection. 

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I was thinking of getting a "dressier" Seiko, but the Presage line still uses Hardlex for a lot of the watches? Then I was looking at the non compass Alpinist models, but the sizing is still a little big (for me) for what I want.

I got a DressKX (SRPE) new but for a very good price, but for the first time i have already scratched the Hardlex. So it's either sapphire or acrylic (because at least that can be "fixed") going forwards. 

Plus the accuracy is mostly just ok. I've been reading good things about the 9000 Miyota movements.

TLDR, probably not going to get another Seiko for a whil, might sell one of my current as well. Looking at the Vaer A30 Atlas.

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chronotriggered

Just watching this one play out - it’s nothing I’ve not said already, and people wonder why I’m not on the Seiko train.

@Metalguru68 - you have my sympathies. Perhaps a shopping trip on AliExpress or eBay might make you feel better. No pin-levers though…

You and you're pin-levers mate 😂😂😂

I haven't purchased a new Seiko in almost 3 years now, my last was a Marine Master 031 with the hardlex crystal. It was a bargain when I picked it up and I still think it was good value as it's accuracy is amazing, but everything after that, well I've tooted that horn too many times to mention myself.

Such a shame, Seiko used to be great value watches 😭

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Metalguru68

What got me thinking about seiko's pricing was the cost of some of the seiko 5's some getting close to the 300 pound mark which seems a bit steep, but what finally put the final nail in the coffin was the new solar dive watch which I really liked as it had a 38.5mm case and looked really nice until I saw the price 500+ pounds 😯 what do you get for that? Pressed clasp,hollow end links,quartz solar movement oh but you also get sapphire crystal (big deal). Def not worth the price. 

Just for example take a look at the citizen ray mears tough eco drive it has a titanium mono block case, sapphire crystal,ecodrive movement and 300m wr and in my opinion better QC and finishing for £300. 

Its a shame seiko have gone this route 😪 i will stick to vintage seiko's now and look elsewhere for new pieces.

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Over priced !

You're paying way too much wherever your buying the Seiko's from. In Australia you can find these models for around $400 which would equate to 200 odd pounds, maybe shop on Japanese websites, definitely cheaper than paying nearly 1000 AUD 👍