Brand new Tudor BB58 Trouble in paradise...... 😮💨😮💨
Ok, soooooo. Here i am again, a while back i made a post on this exact bb58 i got from Gassan AD in Amsterdam. I had been hunting for this watch a while, and the AD i got my first watch from (also tudor) gave me a 1 year wait time. After some searching and calling i found out gassan had one in stock on the steel bracelet. My heart whas pounding and my hands sweating ☺️. Next day i drove over and picked it up. All looked good in the store jadajada packed payed byeeee. I got a great treatment in the store got a tudor hat gassan catalogue, tudor catalogue and so on. Truely very nice 😁. But now the watch. It is great except for the fact of it feeling like a €200 euro armani on the wrist. As is vissable in the pictures i added there is alot of play between the endlugs and the case. So much so that is rattles like a cheep hollow link chinese watch. Needles to say i was not pleased and went back, first time going back they got a watch maker from the back had him look at it with me, to tell me it whas normal. Ok, i accepted it at that time to avoid conflict. I went home did some research and made a post on here, people tell me theirs are solid and i should go back. Also there is a video on youtube with the same problem with a blue bb58. After this i went back again to return it for repairs, which now they accepted and i was told it would be sent back to be checked. This is now 1 day before the holiday i bought the watch for so no chance of taking it thats for sure 🙄 ah well i will see it after my vacation right??? Nope, after my vacation i call for them to tell me ooh sir our watchmakers looked at it and they say its normal play. I told them that whas not what i wanted and asked for it to be sent back to tudor. They appoligised and complied, now 3 weeks later 22 okt 2022 i see i recieved an email on the 21 okt 2022 saying it is back from tudor and that it is normal acceptable play. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Now with the wonky crown on my bb chrono from 22-07-2022, and now this problem with the endlink play on my bb58 of 09-09-2022 i am truely starting to loose all my interest in tudor as a brand. In my vacation i whas in brussels and went past a rolex/tudor ad there, they let me try on the 39mm pelagos. The watch itself felt and looked good, but when i tried the bezel 🤢🤮🤮🤮 ooh dios mio. It got stuck multiple times and felt kind off janky to be honest. Which is weird since all i hear on youtube is love love love for tudor and how its rolex quality for beter pricing. Well if this is rolex quality ill get a breitling. I am now left with 2 watches of which 1 i can wear if i dont think of the wonky crown. And the other i cant wear at all because it a rangly dangly mess. Seeing as i tried having it resolved to no prevail i would like to warn fellow watch lovers. Think carefully and long about your purchase because there is always hidden problems, in my oppinion the thing i ran into should not be here in this price range. And if present should be resolved smoothly and swiftly. For now i am not sure what i will do with it yet.
PS on a side note if anyone wants to buy a BB58 i know a guy 😅🤣😅😅🤣 FFS
Just a guy from the netherland who enjoys watches.
Put the BB58 on a leather strap or NATO? Strange, I have a BB58 and have no idea what you’re talking about, the tolerances on mine are Great. Very solid.
I remember your first post about this issue and as a BB58 Owner i am pretty sure that i also told you that the fit and finish on mine is perfect. (just as good as my Rolex watches)
I saved your picture and will show it around to see what the ADs and watch people here in Switzerland say :)
Something sounds off here. That BB58 is as solid as any Rolex I've tried on. Do you have any close of pictures of the clasp?
Mine does that as well, apparently it's a Tudor /Rolex querk
Put the BB58 on a leather strap or NATO? Strange, I have a BB58 and have no idea what you’re talking about, the tolerances on mine are Great. Very solid.
Yup this is exactly what im hearing all around that everyones BB58 is perfect except for mine 😅🤣. I got it on steel bracelet because thats the setup i wanted now its an expensive paper weight. Im guessing im gonna have to make a youtube video complaining about it to get it taken care of.....
I remember your first post about this issue and as a BB58 Owner i am pretty sure that i also told you that the fit and finish on mine is perfect. (just as good as my Rolex watches)
I saved your picture and will show it around to see what the ADs and watch people here in Switzerland say :)
Yes i remember your comment. It is one of the reasons i went back in the first place. Ive had to go back 3 times so far and am still mot satisfied wearing it. Ive been praising tudor to all my friends and now feel like a bruised fool 🙄🙄. Im currently not near Amsterdam so will probably pick it up next week. Im honestly kind off lost now tho what is my next step? Im guessing im stuck with a decoration watch now. 🤷♂️
Something sounds off here. That BB58 is as solid as any Rolex I've tried on. Do you have any close of pictures of the clasp?
The watch is currently still at the AD, i will probably pick it back up next week. The clasp is not the problem its the play between the endlinks and the case. However when i get it back i will ad some pictures of it to this post.
Thank you for the response, yes i have this to with my BB chrono from 07-22 you unscrew the crown it stays half in. Then you rotate it forward and it pops all the way out. When i first got my chrono the crown whas grainy when screwing it back in, i also went back with that i bought it at another AD (schaap citroen) and they told me aswell. Oooh its normal sir you have 5 years warranty dont worry. 🙄
Which watch do you experience this with? A BB58 or BB chrono? If it is a chrono would you mind checking this for me, unscrew the crown into the winding position then rotate it backwards and look at the crown from op top. Is it going straight? Because mine is wobbly..... This and the bb58 being such a rattly monster has turned me off of tudor for the next couple purchasses for sure.
The watch is currently still at the AD, i will probably pick it back up next week. The clasp is not the problem its the play between the endlinks and the case. However when i get it back i will ad some pictures of it to this post.
It was more weather it was 100% a stock bracelet.
Kinda sounds like what I sendt my BB36 in for, but it like the crown doesn't come all the way out or something with mine. Sometimes it hack and sometimes not, but I can set hour and minutes.
I just handed in my BB36 for a check today and checked the receipt and that is from Gaasan in Amsterdam too 😅
What a shame, I think the shop should just offer a refund or exchange and be done with it at this point. I don't know much about recent Tudor models but, I am familiar with the vintage Tudor stuff and it was never Rolex quality on the vintage stuff, not even close. Especially the bracelets and clasps.
To me it is kind of pathetic and discusting that tudor promotes quality yet cant deliver nor does it solve the problems that occur. I have now (owned) it for more then a month and it still makes me mad thinking about the watch. I should enjoy a watch purchase as a little reward. To myself, i have payed €3580 to be watches and annoyed for 1 month +
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I honestly feel like just selling both my tudors and not wearing anything for a while. It has just made the whole watch buying thing bleh for me, my first one was a breitling colt 41 for €1850 second hand. And that has so far given me no problems and 1000% more joy then the €8600 in tudor watches i have. Ive had tudor since 07-22 and have since been in and out of the AD's i dont know why but their QC suck appearantly. And uuuugh why do you have to tell me about the trouvle with the gmt.... i mean im glad you did i kinda wanted to splurge on it. After the bb58 tho i will 100% not be buying another tudor in the next decade. Or maybe ever who knows.
I just handed in my BB36 for a check today and checked the receipt and that is from Gaasan in Amsterdam too 😅
Uuugh, are you dutch yourself if i may ask? Or did you buy it abroad and it came from adam originally.
What a shame, I think the shop should just offer a refund or exchange and be done with it at this point. I don't know much about recent Tudor models but, I am familiar with the vintage Tudor stuff and it was never Rolex quality on the vintage stuff, not even close. Especially the bracelets and clasps.
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I myself am not familiar with any of the vintage tudors IRL, but as far as the clasp and bracelet itself go for the new models they are good. The ceramic ball bearings in the clasp and clasp cover are a nice touch and feel very snappy. Which i think rolex should do aswell. However the rest uugh, its like lipstick on a pig. Its still a pig.... I honestly would not mind getting a full refound and giving the watch back but im sure they wont do that since its been more then the 14 day return policy now. 🙄 im guessing i got burned €500 orso and will end up selling for €3000 and not buying a tudor ever again. I whas in the cartier AD not to long ago and the blue dial santos is very very very aesthetically pleasing and only like €7500. So i might sell both tudors with a loss and get that.
Yes, good to know thank you 😁. This isnt really of a big consern to me personally for the chrono the only problem is the crown. And what i did not know before purchase is the noisy B01 rotor. But thats ok, you dont notice it when wearing it just when listening to the watch. Then for the bb58 its the endlug play and overal sound because of that besides that when i did have it it felt like a solid watch.
Uuugh, are you dutch yourself if i may ask? Or did you buy it abroad and it came from adam originally.
Norwegian. I bought the watch used 😊
I‘d stray away from the rubbish Black Bay line entirely. i had 2 bb58’s before, here are the problems I had;
my wife has a BB36, which I tried talking her out of buying, also shows the hour hand alignment issues.. but thank heavens it is within cosc and actually has a more powerful PR.
The no1 reason why i’ll never get the p39 is because they share the same movement thats used in the bb58.
what was worse was the watch community will come into defence mode everytime someone complains about the BB58. ”thats what you get for 4k”, “its not a rolex, suck it up” and all that nonse. i’d say stick it up to your AD and Tudor. its your money and you better get what you paid for.
.. But I do love my FXD. maybe my FXD is a unicorn piece; perfect alignments, solid movement that actually performs better than its rated (-6 secs in 3 weeks), rarely need to wind the watch as its always running Etc… hope you get your troubles resolved :)
This extra "pop"is a feature of the watch. They all do it. I think it might have something to do with making sure that an unintentionally unscrewed crown is less likely to let water in until it is wound back the other way.
This is normal and happens on all my Tudors and Rolex watche and I believe some of my other watches. Never gave it a second thought.
I’d say just sell your Tudors and move on. It’s not worth being miserable over an object that can easily be replaced with something else that works better for you.
Maybe buy Timex, for the price point you are never really disappointed and if you are, you can live with the loss. lol. Really just half joking, but as a budget Timex only watch collector, life is not as stressful when a watch doesn't meet your expectations. I do agree that in that price range it should meet your expectations as a rational watch enthusiast. Having said that, I'm sure there are some people in and out of the watch world that cannot be pleased and let little things bother them no matter how well made they are. You don't sound like that type of person from what you wrote.
Mate im on camp anti-rolex as well. Theyre rubbish faux jewelry. ive had exp1s that wont achieve superlative cosc, exp2s with 6pm alignment issues, hand wobbling and a design “quirk” where the gmt hand is placed on top of the hour hand indicating importance of the gmt hand and best of all, a sub where it was rated to 0.6m even after service 🙄 in essence, rolex is overcharging for a fantastic bracelet, with basic tech. And tudor is selling the white chocolate leftovers from the rubbish pile rolex left. Strictly my opinion, my experience and not meant to offend.
I‘d stray away from the rubbish Black Bay line entirely. i had 2 bb58’s before, here are the problems I had;
my wife has a BB36, which I tried talking her out of buying, also shows the hour hand alignment issues.. but thank heavens it is within cosc and actually has a more powerful PR.
The no1 reason why i’ll never get the p39 is because they share the same movement thats used in the bb58.
what was worse was the watch community will come into defence mode everytime someone complains about the BB58. ”thats what you get for 4k”, “its not a rolex, suck it up” and all that nonse. i’d say stick it up to your AD and Tudor. its your money and you better get what you paid for.
.. But I do love my FXD. maybe my FXD is a unicorn piece; perfect alignments, solid movement that actually performs better than its rated (-6 secs in 3 weeks), rarely need to wind the watch as its always running Etc… hope you get your troubles resolved :)
And for 4k there are plenty of watches you can purchase without waiting half a lifetime that do not have those issues.
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