Christopher Ward The Twelve

It’s gorgeous and stunning and well priced and too big!

why why why not 38mm!

https://www.christopherward.com/the-twelve-watches/the-twelve/C12-40ADA1-S00K0-B0.html

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I don‘t think it‘s too big. L2L looks like it is measured from the tip of the male end-links and they curve down directly. I ordered the grey one right away. I‘m also positively surprised by the pricing… COSC and their level of finishing at just around 1k is huge!

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eliamathias

I don‘t think it‘s too big. L2L looks like it is measured from the tip of the male end-links and they curve down directly. I ordered the grey one right away. I‘m also positively surprised by the pricing… COSC and their level of finishing at just around 1k is huge!

Appreciate this may be a me problem as I have kitten wrists!

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This has a lot more appeal to me than the PRX. There's just something about that I don't like. however, neither are really the style I like, and whilst I'm really, REALLY tempted by the Nebula Purple, there's other watches i'd rather spend my €2k on unfortunately.

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I see they mention that the movement can be customised with various complications, including a GMT. Now that is a watch i'd buy without hesitation.

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As others have commented, it bears a striking resemblance to this Czapek

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Also bears a resemblance to the vacheron Constantin overseas

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I personally think this looks great. Wears its Genta influences proudly and unashamedly on its sleeve. And, yes, it's very similar to the Czapek above. But at 1/20 of its price, the Twelve is another example of CW knocking it out of the park, design and value-wise. Modern watch design is almost entirely built upon a foundation of homage. Love this.

Not so the colouring though. As with the latest iterations of the Bel Canto, there are perhaps only 1 or 2 colour schemes that I would pay money for, the astral blue titanium being my pick of the bunch.

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English_archer

As others have commented, it bears a striking resemblance to this Czapek

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Wow, so true 😮

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eliamathias

I don‘t think it‘s too big. L2L looks like it is measured from the tip of the male end-links and they curve down directly. I ordered the grey one right away. I‘m also positively surprised by the pricing… COSC and their level of finishing at just around 1k is huge!

Also, under 10mm thick. As someone with smaller wrists - it does mean I’ll have to try it on before buying (although CW does offer their 60/60 policy)….

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AdamJK

I personally think this looks great. Wears its Genta influences proudly and unashamedly on its sleeve. And, yes, it's very similar to the Czapek above. But at 1/20 of its price, the Twelve is another example of CW knocking it out of the park, design and value-wise. Modern watch design is almost entirely built upon a foundation of homage. Love this.

Not so the colouring though. As with the latest iterations of the Bel Canto, there are perhaps only 1 or 2 colour schemes that I would pay money for, the astral blue titanium being my pick of the bunch.

I agree with you. I think that this watch looks amazing. The only part where i think they should invested more time is in the bracelet Design. I dont know what quality the bracelet has but it has the Design of the PRX and the Oyster Quartz. But that aside it looks amazing.

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Cannot afford the Czapek so the resemblance isn't a bad thing to me 😀 I'd like to get an ice blue one at some point.

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I might get some hate for this but I think this is a poor result. As a latecomer to this niche CW have had several years to present an integrated bracelet sports watch which actually differentiates itself from everything else on the market, but they've kind of squandered this opportunity.

It's good that they didn't take the route of directly copying design elements straight from the headline watches in the space like the PP Nautilus, AP Royal Oak, VC Overseas etc. However instead of really striking out on their own and developing their own design language, once again they've produced a fairly derivative design reminiscent of the Czapek Antarctique and the GP Laureato- while capturing none of their flair IMO. This may just be a Christopher Ward problem in general, but this model does highlight it.

The dial is kind of tacky; seeing JOMW's video of it in the sunlight made me think of those holographic stickers that used to come with cheap kids magazines about 20 years ago. The bracelet is really nothing special either, absolutely no definition on those links just like the Tissot PRX- flat and boring.

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Justingalore

Appreciate this may be a me problem as I have kitten wrists!

Same 🙂 Kitten wrists 😂 love that , won’t forget that one 👆

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I think it will be a winner, my only issue is I wish they just offered the 6 colours and allow us to choose between movement and materials…THAT would be great. I.e. give me the 300 COSC movement in steel or any of the 6 colours or grey in titanium. Perhaps I’m asking too much but I want to choose colours and specs.

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nenadp
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Wow, so true 😮

How much is the Czapek again ? Just saying ….

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Pickle247

I might get some hate for this but I think this is a poor result. As a latecomer to this niche CW have had several years to present an integrated bracelet sports watch which actually differentiates itself from everything else on the market, but they've kind of squandered this opportunity.

It's good that they didn't take the route of directly copying design elements straight from the headline watches in the space like the PP Nautilus, AP Royal Oak, VC Overseas etc. However instead of really striking out on their own and developing their own design language, once again they've produced a fairly derivative design reminiscent of the Czapek Antarctique and the GP Laureato- while capturing none of their flair IMO. This may just be a Christopher Ward problem in general, but this model does highlight it.

The dial is kind of tacky; seeing JOMW's video of it in the sunlight made me think of those holographic stickers that used to come with cheap kids magazines about 20 years ago. The bracelet is really nothing special either, absolutely no definition on those links just like the Tissot PRX- flat and boring.

I can certainly foresee the gradient dials on the Ti versions not aging so gracefully. Which is a shame because I love the added specs and Ti is cool. But I imagine that this release will be very successful and more dial variations will be added in the future. I think the SS dials are aces though. Vanilla colors but the texture does the talking. The light blue is my pick.

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eliamathias

I don‘t think it‘s too big. L2L looks like it is measured from the tip of the male end-links and they curve down directly. I ordered the grey one right away. I‘m also positively surprised by the pricing… COSC and their level of finishing at just around 1k is huge!

I bekieve the COSC is only on the Ti, and that starts at $1395 on rubber. But OMG that purple is hot.

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Justingalore

Appreciate this may be a me problem as I have kitten wrists!

I've been hearing from the CW Forum that there is a 36mm in the works for later this year.

I'm hoping that more dial colours, especially for the Titanium versions with SW300 become available in this sizing.

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eliamathias

I don‘t think it‘s too big. L2L looks like it is measured from the tip of the male end-links and they curve down directly. I ordered the grey one right away. I‘m also positively surprised by the pricing… COSC and their level of finishing at just around 1k is huge!

Hope you didnt order the grey with the COSC movement in mind, cause the 300 COSC is only for the Ti variants it appears.

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Lol and here I am thinking 40 mm is on the small side for me…

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Didier

Hope you didnt order the grey with the COSC movement in mind, cause the 300 COSC is only for the Ti variants it appears.

Figured that out but doesn‘t really matter to me as the normal one will probably be within COSC too and I don‘t really like titanium so all good ;)

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keelhaul

I bekieve the COSC is only on the Ti, and that starts at $1395 on rubber. But OMG that purple is hot.

Yup, you‘re right. I‘m sure it will run well too though. Or I will just regulate it myself if it doesn‘t.

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Good watches for the money

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Professor_F

Also seems to be very flat and with fixed, jutting end links, a recipe for disaster for us small-wristed

Update: I folded and got the steel, white dial (less busy) version anyway. Have 6.5" wrists and will report back on how that works when I get it. What sold me was Worn and Wound pointing out that the 44.5mm lug-to-lug includes the case's jutting and sharply angled kind of built-in endlink. Seems like it might actually work, but I also sold my similarly sized Frederique Constante Highlife for being too big, so we'll see I guess.

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Justingalore

Appreciate this may be a me problem as I have kitten wrists!

How much is your wrist? I have quite a kitty one too🤣 I am 6in (15cm) and I have always problem to find good fitting watches

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NicoRed

How much is your wrist? I have quite a kitty one too🤣 I am 6in (15cm) and I have always problem to find good fitting watches

6.5…

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With the CW 60\60 guarantee you can just return it if you don't like it in the flesh or the fit isn't right, the joys of Internet watch shopping.

They always look different in the flesh 😁

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Kalsota

But did they really think differently, though?

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Not really -- they just took elements from many similar watches and kitbashed them into this one. That said, most watches do something similar to this.

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eliamathias

I don‘t think it‘s too big. L2L looks like it is measured from the tip of the male end-links and they curve down directly. I ordered the grey one right away. I‘m also positively surprised by the pricing… COSC and their level of finishing at just around 1k is huge!

It looks great - I tried the Ti ones on at Windup and I really like it. At 42 mm it would have been a sale… I know the internet says I should like small watches, but I don’t think they’re for me…

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I'm interested! I love Ti! I love Blue and Purple!

But when I tried on a PRX ...I realized that I got crazy bad lug overhang with it's integrated bracelet. Integrated bracelets need a try before buy. Bird wrist me, 6, or slightly under after I do a long run or ride.

So way too risky to buy without trying on. For us Canucks, shipping+duty+tax+brokerage fees are around 400 hundred bucks on a watch that's 2k. A return will not cover any of that.

If anyone gets one, please report in on it though!