Blancpain X Swatch controversial opinion

Fully agree and adding that a non-serviceable System51 movement makes it way overpriced. Throwing this in the mix as a good alternative and look-a-like.

😂 The hype train is on. Resistance is useless!

You do know Swatch are saying they will replace the movement. That puts it in the same league as most sub- $500 Seikos and Citizens. It also puts it way ahead of the plethora of Chinese abandonware.

Edit: I'm not saying this is a good thing. What I'm really saying is that this plastic watch will end up in the same place as most sub-$500 Seikos, Citizens, Russian, Chinese etc watches.... Landfill.

People are not buying this for the looks or movement or quality of build. It’s purely for hype! So offering alternatives and explaining the lack of value is redundant.

I don't think it's redundant. I think people should be taking a step back and thinking about what they're buying.

Theyre definitely buying it with some interest in the item as hype alone can't sell something that you don't like

I have a Mil Ships and I think it's very cool, but it's also received a lot of criticism for poor specifications in relation to price. If I remember correctly the suggested retail was around $900 and for that you get a Miyota 8 series. You can probably find a much better deal on them now though 🙂

The RRP wasn't great to begin with but now they're are better

You're right about that. And as you say, it has its own story to tell.

The lemming suicide myth was popularised in the 1958 Disney film "White Wilderness" in which many lemmings were allegedly herded off a sea cliff so that the filmmakers could get dramatic footage of "lemming suicide." The footage convinced many people of the truth of lemming suicide, though the veracity of the footage was later called into question and the myth debunked.

Thinking about it - that actually might make it more relevant..

Conglomerate herding unsuspecting animals to throw themselves into something that won't do them any good.

It's not about the money or value, (which I personally think is good at RRP) or being trendy.🥸

if you like it then you like it.

If you don't,you don't.

Fair enough 👍🏻

Its also where you are in your "journey "...

Im mid 50's and been into watches since I was a kid. 👴🏻

I've got/had my fill of all the "normal" watches and it's really only vintage or posh stuff that's hard to find or too expensive to get that I want to own but most likely never will. 😟

Id never buy a Blancpain, but could get this Swatch (a brand I'd never consider normally as I'd had them many years ago when I had less disposable income) as it's a cheap bit of fun.🥳

I've read it's a non serviceable movement but it is replaceable as it's a snap on back.

As for the Environment - I've never driven, I chose not to have children and I've been veggie since '82 and I'm pretty sure that the amount of use it'd get the Swatch will probably outlast me 😅

I understand it's an accessible way for people to own a "blancpain". And we can agree it's far better than the moonswatch.

For the money you can get a lot better made peice with actual history rather than a Collab with a brand that made a mockery of watch fans with the moonswatch release.

Also driving a motorcycle counts as having driven;)

Agree with everything you say.

Yeah, was hoping the distinction between driven and ridden wouldn't be picked up on, you've blown my virtue signalling 😆🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

The. bulova looks great

All sound advice, but it will fall on the deaf ears of people - mostly outside groups like this - who only want their plastic fantastic because it has an expensive brand name stencilled on the dial, and not because they actually want a real watch. Because - you are quite right - you can get some really cool, real watches for that kind of money. But when the FOMO rises in their eyes and all they can see is BRAND NAME! BRAND NAME! BRAND NAME! then they're really not ready for anything approaching reason, rather sadly.

Take away the associated brand-name and would people buy it? LOL, would they %$#^.

"Dodgy Disney"

Now that's a conversation for a completely different forum.

Yeah, they look very good and reasonable prices. I understand they use Miyota movements, which work well, but with the automatics, the rotor only winds in one direction, so the watch can make a bit more noise than standard bi-directional automatic movements. As long as you get a manual-wind movement, or you're OK with the rotor noise, you're good.

Lots of options above for less than the SxB, but they're all as dull as the original 50F. Why would anyone want those even at ¼ the price of the SxB? There's a reason Swatch didn't replicate it, apart from the fact that there's 100 replicas already.

It's like trying to compare a generic ST19 panda chrono for £100 on AliX, with the ST19 based Watermelon for £500.

You either get it and will pay for it, or you'll buy a generic look-a-likee.

Long ago (2005) I read that I should love the Blancpain 50 fathoms, history and all that garbage, just like I was suppose to love the Moon Watch. Never got a moon watch but got the Moonswatch. Wore it for half a day, it’s been in a watch box since. I should check to see if the battery is dead. About 6 months ago I bought the Fleuss cause it looked like the 50 Fathoms. Great watch for $250. Again it sat in the watch box, wore it once. I gave it away so someone could enjoy it. Even though this will actually be a Blancpain, albeit a plastic one, I think it would sit idle in a box, and $400 is too much for that purpose.

I think a lot will be going into a collection next to the Moonswatch and never see the light of day and for that there almost perfect.

To each their own, again I'm not buying, I had no interest in the OmegaX and won't be buying these BlancpainX for the simple reason that it's a cash cow program and just wait for the third release, Omega and Blancpain are legendary watch "Manufactures" that never introduced a cheap plastic watch ever until swatch their parents company say it's time to cash in a little extra dough. These watches are cheap plastic with leaching dyes and over price cash grab imo, to keep it real come on guys Omega nor Blancpain if independent will never degrade themselves with these McDonald's pieces. If any here at WC decides to make the purchase fine just don't wear them to the next meet.

I actually didn't know this. That's fantastic and takes away something I had been worried about with this watch. Did they announce that somewhere? I'm just hoping to have it in writing.

Edit: Oh, wow, actually, the caseback does come off, so they can replace it. This is absolutely fascinating, they never did this with a Sistem51 watch before. Definitely going to grab one of these now. Swatch nailed it with this one.

Source: https://youtu.be/m6aD9iwPjhU?si=x5cOwGILDywK7vEu

Such a first world conundrum 😂

It can’t sell something you don’t like but social conditioning and the need to be first on social media is a must for a lot of people. The positive reinforcement somehow satiates their need for being deemed worthy or more than.

This isn’t related solely to the Swatch collabs but all hype fashion/gadgetry in general.

Totally agree about the bulova. Will study the Walter mitt, it seems Nice.

Here, here!

Can't agree on you there, why would people throw away well made seikos and citizens. I find that a bit of a weird statement.

Because the cost of a service is more than the value of the watch.

"For the money you can get a lot better made peice with actual history rather than a Collab with a brand that made a mockery of watch fans with the moonswatch release"

Yes indeed you can, & I've already done that & got those that interest me - thus my interest in this novelty. I'm just further down the rabbit hole, been into the hobby for many years.

To each their own as they say 😉👍🏻