Did you see what Venezianico is releasing?????

Sorry, I don't like that brand!

Did you have issues with one of their watches? Or just don't like the designs?

I remember when they started...I believe they were called Meccaniche Veneziane...and then changed the name to just Venezianico.

I have a number of their watches and have not had any issues. The brand is incredibly responsive any time I've communicated with them.

Long history! I'll tell you later, because it's 1:15 AM here and I'm already going to sleep. 💤😴

I like a lot of Venezianico‘s watches, but this one definitely takes the cake. Absolute stunner 😍

That brand is growing well. Still a microbrand but getting its own space and personality.

That model is a definitive bonus to the watch space.

Very cool 😎

Cool watch but a tough sell vs the speedy for a very similarly designed watch.

It's an interesting movement, but Venezianico (or Meccaniche Veneziane as it was known when they started in 2017), is just a small player; a new kid on the block which has no background with... well, anything, let alone moon watches and the whole space story.

So I feel it's quite unearned. That's about the best term I can apply to this watch. It's pretty and, again, the movement is interesting... but that's about it. This isn't a big brand. This isn't a brand that has anything to do with space. For the money being asked, I'd just buy a used Speedy and do it for real. I don't see much appeal here, beyond the movement.

I saw this by chance yesterday and I was amazed by the design and the movement! Venezianico are getting better with the years for sure 👌

Looks great. I’ve been eyeing Venezianico for a while now. Haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

As much as I agree with everything you say, I feel obliged to counter argue anyway. 😅

Disclaimer: I too would go for "the real deal" and buy a speedy.

Having said that.

The whole "stay in your lane" attitude we watch nerds often holds seems a bit old fashioned.

And is probably one of the reasons why change is so slow in this industry.

It's not brand X so they can't make watch Y

Again, I too fall into this trap, but wouldn't it be great if we let go of all these assumptions and just buy what we like...

I might just be argueing this point to try and convince myself to not be so stuck in my ways.

Sod it, just buy a speedy instead.

I tried, and failed 😅

I think you are arguing for something idealistic across watches in general, rather than something realistic about this watch. And putting aside that you aren't even swayed by your own argument 😉 I simply return to the word I used; unearned. Space watches are very specific things. Unlike dive watches, where everyone and his dog can lay claim to some body of water and relate their watch to it, space is very much its own thing. When Omega celebrates it, I get it. When Bulova celebrates it, I get it (albeit with a, "You cheeky bastards!" attached). Even when a brand celebrates it through a marketing deal with NASA, or similar, I get it. But when a brand has no link to space, and the watch's link to space is pretty much, "Movements like this went to space!" (please tell me if I'm missing anything there), I think it's a very desperate, unearned, and tenuous link. Just my 2c!

Shoot - just saw the other day another new release that also uses new old stock lemania movements

Very pretty movement 😍Your Nickname here kind of mandates you get this one. 👍

I’m really not into chronographs though? Maybe someday I’ll grow and mature 😜

Hahahaha I did indeed not manage to convince myself there, however.

What gets me is that any brand can make a dive watch. Despite the fact that none of their watches have even come close to water to test the wr.This we all find normal and acceptable.

Fast forward say, 10/15 years. We all have acces to space easily. You bet there are going to be countless of brands that makes space watches despite not having been in space themselves.

And all of a sudden it's not so weird anymore.

But now we put a lot of praise into a brand that only got chosen because they didn't go with saffier like the others. (More or less)

There's no right or wrong here, it just struck me as odd.

Ps

And yes this has more to do with watches in general than this specific model.

I have been a customer of theirs for several years and have had a fantastic experience with thier watches. I find the quality of what they produce is far above the price. They are the also the go to brand when I want to buy a friend or family member a gift, and they are a great “safe” watch to wear when I am traveling abroad.

That being said I am also a collector of Speedmasters, they showed me this watch weeks ago and I decided to pass on it. Until now they have had thier own style, I’m not a fan of Homage watches and I already own the watch that inspired theirs (platinum 321).

I’m sure the quality of this watch will be fantastic and those that buy one will be very happy with it. But like others opinions here, when the homage is priced that closely to an entry level Speedmaster it a tough sell.

What's the sizing?

Beautiful watch for sure but that price is scary

I'm also wondering who will service that movement down the road? ("Hey TAG, can you do me a favor?")

It doesn’t grab my attention as much as some of their other pieces but then I’m also not a fan of specific movements either. For a micro brand it’s too expensive for me, by factor 2-3.

Beautiful watch. I like the count down timer. A twist I don’t think has been done before? Not familiar with the movement. I’m guessing that is where the price hike is. Thier other watches don’t come close to that price. I do have a few of thier watches and like them. Quality is good. I think I would have to hold one first before I made a commit on a purchase.

I owned a watch under their previous brand name and it was complete crap. Dust under the crystal, spot on the dial, printing came off the minute track, etc... I've had better from AliExpress

I agree with the points made above comparing this release with a vintage Speedy.

Of course, if you are buying either a Speedy or this release, then the Speedy would take priority as it has all the historical significance, the Omega brand, the beauty of its classic design, and its iconic status.

This watch is really more for collectors who like the idea of restoring vintage movements like the Lemania 1873 and putting it into a brand new watch that is very attractive and has some interesting additional complications.

I will admit I am a sucker for novelty when it comes to chronographs and fortunately the price asked is not too crazy for a limited edition with a cool restored vintage movement.

The price point is similar to what Nivada Grenchen has asked for limited editions with restored Valjoux 23 movements in them. And NG is also a microbrand (despite the historic brand name) and you would have the same issues servicing the vintage movement...even more so since some high end watches used the Valjoux 23 and replacement parts can be costly.

So, yes, there probably isn't much of a secondary market for this watch, or for the NGs, but I don't sell my watches nor think of them as investments.

I'd like it more at 40mm.

Impressive! Love the brand.

Hi Mel!

I'll tell you my problem with Venezianico.🙃When the brand had its other name (which you described well) it stated on its website that they had collaborated with Seiko in the development of the NH35 movement, therefore (according to Venezianico) Seiko's NH35 It was an in-house movement. 🤣 I know that many brands resort to lying sales strategies, e.g.: Citizen claims that their Eco-Drive watches don't require a lifetime battery change and they even go so far as to claim that their Eco-Drive watches don't have batteries inside. But claiming that a movement developed by Seiko is in-house at Venezianico is very shameless!

After changing their old name (it would be good to know why they felt the need to do that), Venezianico ran a very aggressive campaign on YouTube (Spanish-speaking YouTubers), making it clear that the unboxing and reviews of the watches weren't honest. Most Youtubers spoke wonderfully about the brand, had nothing to criticize and, to top it all off, stated that all their designs were exclusive to the brand and weren't inspired by any other watch. On the other hand, YouTubers repeated over and over again that Veneziancio watches were luxury watches, because they wanted to justify their high costs!

One day the Ultrablack arrived and Venezianico stated that this design was exclusive to them and promoted it on YouTube. Evidently many comments began to emerge from people who knew Movado Museum watches, to give an example of a watch with a similar design to the Venezianico Ultrablack watch.

So, in summary, what bothers me about the brand is that it isn't honest and falls into lies as serious as that of the Seiko NH35 movement. It is a brand that surely manufactures in China but wants to make the customer believe that it is at the level of Swiss watchmaking with it's "luxury" finishes. It's a brand that wants to sell watches at premium prices that it claims are of its own design and, therefore, exclusive. And it's a brand that saturated YouTube by doing massive campaigns with many Youtubers who sold themselves to the brand, repeating over and over again the same sales pitch that the brand asks them to say. Then a kind of "war" occurred between different Youtubers and among fans in general. Many of us don't want to know anything about that brand for all these reasons that I explained to you.

And with this I don't mean that Venezianicos watches are bad watches, or are poorly made, but that for me (and it's my personal opinion), those watches are not worth what they cost. Furthermore, I do see details in their designs that I don't like, but that are not criticized on social networks by the "experts."

BINGO

Thanks for the info Richard. I was unaware of those kind of shenanigans.

Very sad to hear that. I have not had any bad experiences with the watches, but definitely don’t like misleading marketing.

Rolex to me is the biggest offender of all brands when it comes to lying about their watches and achievements. Doesn’t seem to hurt their sales any. But I refuse to purchase a Rolex for the exact reasons you list.

Agree with you! Many brands are dishonest and rely on lies to get sales. But there are lies that I consider more serious, e.g. claim that a movement developed by a third party is yours.