Fun exercise anyone? Pick your top 2 characteristics (if you lie it's only really you lying to yourself), do you see a correlation between your favorite watch(es) and your chosen traits?
Because it's Sunday, and this is more fun than my Linux homework, my mind naturally has wandered off to the deep recesses of my brain where the concepts of focus and usefulness have never been introduced. This lead me down the path of mental heuristics I'm about to describe in this post, so buckle up!
I am drawn towards simple watches. I recently purchased the Tudor Ranger.
(photo credit - monochrome-watches.com)
I don't own a chronograph as I have never been drawn to them. I have near a dozen watches ranging in price and quality from when I started collecting about 15 years ago, and none of them have a complication more....complicated.... than a date. Well, maybe my JLC Reverso DuoFace could be considered a travel time watch, but still, per face, nothing more visually complicated than a simple three hander.
My first "real" (to me) watch was a quartz Movado I bought while on vacation in the Virgin Islands in 2008.
It doesn't get much more simple than this, not even any hour markers or a minute track. And that is precisely why I loved/love it. Simple is very calming for me, and as someone whose mind never turns off, I think I crave calm whenever and wherever I can get it. That is always my desired state, but rarely my actual state :-)
So I got to thinking, does personality type influence what we watch nerds crave in a timepiece? I know there are a lot of rubrics from which to evaluate one's self, and not all are created equally, but it's my post and my brain is fixated on the 4 temperaments, so here we go.
If I had to pick two of what I believe to be my most dominant traits from the provided chart I think thoughtful/anxious (these tend to be a fluid state for me) and impulsive stand out the most. Many people around me would agree. Because that is my natural state, I think complications like a three subdial chronograph, skeletonized movements, overly ornate designs, or even numerals on a minute track, I find distracting, which reduces the enjoyment I feel when looking at and wearing timepieces like those.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely appreciate them and think they are marvels. I mean, @HotWatchChick69's new GS is a great example of a time piece I find to be just gorgeous, and I watch Youtube reviews on pieces like that pretty often, but I don't know that I would ever purchase a piece so "involved". I think if I bought something like that, I would admire the craftsmanship, but I doubt I'd wear it that often.
What say you WatchCrunchers?
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Me:
I've done the MBTI and like 18 other personality test things, always for work! Like, literally, one time, I got rejected from a cool role, because I guess I failed the personality diagnostic! I also once lost out on an opportunity to mate with another human being, because I failed the "dog person / cat person" test!
Given all that, the only personality test I truly believe in with all my heart is Chuck Klosterman's "23 questions I ask everyone I meet to decide if I can really love them."
https://eigenblogger.com/2017/09/17/23-questions-i-ask-everybody-i-meet-in-order-to-decide-if-i-can-really-love-them/
How you answer these questions predicts with 100% accuracy which watch you will love most.
Me:
All of the emotions? I see you.
I've done the MBTI and like 18 other personality test things, always for work! Like, literally, one time, I got rejected from a cool role, because I guess I failed the personality diagnostic! I also once lost out on an opportunity to mate with another human being, because I failed the "dog person / cat person" test!
Given all that, the only personality test I truly believe in with all my heart is Chuck Klosterman's "23 questions I ask everyone I meet to decide if I can really love them."
https://eigenblogger.com/2017/09/17/23-questions-i-ask-everybody-i-meet-in-order-to-decide-if-i-can-really-love-them/
How you answer these questions predicts with 100% accuracy which watch you will love most.
Very good, very good. I shall read your article. But.....stay with me here, did you read my post and will you be participating?
All of the emotions? I see you.
Really all that means is I'm a basket case & all over the place, which is reflected in my collection & desired watches.
Really all that means is I'm a basket case & all over the place, which is reflected in my collection & desired watches.
Same. I feel like I should have to do a self assessment to determine my mental state before making a purchase. But then I wouldn't have any watches, so where is the fun in that.
go do your homework lazy bum!
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go do your homework lazy bum!
😉
Can't say I expected to hear that comment in my 40s.
Very good, very good. I shall read your article. But.....stay with me here, did you read my post and will you be participating?
Impulsive and principled... which would explain the fact that I went from 1 watch to like 30 in less than 12 months, and then that all got pared down to just GS... on principle! Ha!
Can't say I expected to hear that comment in my 40s.
haha!! Brings you back huh! 🍻 ok ok…since you need a break lets play this crazy psycho analysis…
exhibitionist…i don’t think i need to explain…
playful…i don’t want to take life seriously …
i do like colorful and and playful dials…
Impulsive and principled... which would explain the fact that I went from 1 watch to like 30 in less than 12 months, and then that all got pared down to just GS... on principle! Ha!
Twinsies!!
Impulsive and hopeful - I am always the last holdout to accept bad news for what it is, but I am kind of glad to say that luckily I don’t see many reflections of these traits in my watch collection. I will say I “impulsively” bought my Orient Kamasu, but I spent a few days looking at videos and photos of the watch, so I guess impulsiveness is subjective. Lately, I have been practicing pretty good self control. At least I made a good impulsive decision lol.
Impulsive and hopeful - I am always the last holdout to accept bad news for what it is, but I am kind of glad to say that luckily I don’t see many reflections of these traits in my watch collection. I will say I “impulsively” bought my Orient Kamasu, but I spent a few days looking at videos and photos of the watch, so I guess impulsiveness is subjective. Lately, I have been practicing pretty good self control. At least I made a good impulsive decision lol.
Impulsive is really subjective and definitely on a scale of sorts. I;d like to say none of my watch purchases have been impulsive, but that would be a lie. At least most of them have not been :-)
Definitely in the top right segment me and the watches, but I thought choleric was a nasty disease and the reason we don' trust the water and drink beer instead.
I’m definitely on the sanguine and phlegmatic side of the chart mostly. Being an introvert, I avoid flashy, blingy things in general. Other than that, I’m kind of all over the place in my watch interests. About the only thing that doesn’t interest me at all are the blank watches with almost nothing on the dial. I want complications and some visual interest to marvel at.
With you. Totally with you. But…, ive been looking at the Sinn 556 I B blue dial on the H-link bracelet all morning now and I think I need one.
Totally not impulsive. But, it is in stock…
https://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/Sinn-556-I-B-Blue-Dial-on-H-Link-Bracelet-74p4955.htm
This makes complete sense to me 🙂. How many situations do you have covered? Are you like @HotWatchChick69 and you have a shrimp civiche watch? Or just more general daily scenarios?
just general daily scenario 😂, but i think it is just in my head actually.
work: field watch, flieger watch
formal: dresswatch
casual hangout or holiday: diver or gmt
just general daily scenario 😂, but i think it is just in my head actually.
work: field watch, flieger watch
formal: dresswatch
casual hangout or holiday: diver or gmt
Haha, it’s always just in our heads. That’s what makes it so fun! For me, I feel like I MUST have a date complication on a work watch. Yes, I sit at a computer and have a paper calendar at my desk. But, if I’m walking the hallway and need to know (no cell phone at work) I can’t go without.
Completely reasonable.
Do you notice a trend in the type of watches you purchase? Or is your collection a mixed bag?
Historically, I've collected a mixed bag. Japanese, Swiss, German. Big brands and micros. Clean dials and cluttered ones. Interesting colors, silvers, blacks, and whites.
I don't even know that I could identify a trend in things I own now and intend to keep.
Plus an Oysterquartz day date with a massive number of diamonds on it. No picture because it's in the safe deposit box and I can't be bothered to make a point.
I have a really tough time identifying the common element between these watches save for I am not attracted to the sparest of dials and I don't have a ton of super bright doxa colored dials (but I have in the past). But the SBGA429 would hardly count as busy and has the pop of color.
The biggest preference that I can state at this point is that I have never owned a diver that's lasted more than two months in my collection. I'm not convinced that's personality based so much as I haven't met the right diver.
While I love your Sinn's I'm drooling over those Hanhart watches of yours 🤤
How do you find the size for a start, relative to your wrist size and the thickness of the watch as well? The build quality, how would you rate them compared to, let's say a Sinn or possibly a Tutima for instance?
Is the black chrono a Hanhart 417 ES Red Lion? or another model?
I have so many questions I could ask you as there is little to no reviews on YouTube and whatever they do say I don't really listen to their opinion anyway and Hanhart gets neglected as far as I can see on any watch forum, including WatchCrunch.
I ask as I have gone to pull the trigger a few times on the Pioneer Preventor 9 but I am a little concerned with the size at 40mm
So excuse me for asking so many questions but it's great to actually meet someone who has some in their collection.
Thanks for the kind words.
Wow - lots of questions - I'll try and get to all of them:
4. The build quality is fantastic - same level as Sinn in my book - I don't have any Tutimas so can't comment on that comparison.
5. On the Pioneer, I would not worry about the 40mm diameter and the height is only 12.2mm so that should be relatively cuff friendly - and at 48mm lug-to-lug it should fit most wrists without overhang - really thorough review/video of the watch here from someone who has a 6.25 inch wrist: https://www.beansandbezels.com/reviews/hanhart-pioneer-preventor-9-watch-review/
Hope I didn't miss anything - if I did - send more questions.
Also, that Sinn chronograph has me questioning my entire post right now. It’s beautiful.
Thanks - that is one of the Rattrapante chronographs I was referring to in my initial post.
Not to be pedantic, but for those who are interested in understanding the rattrapante (split seconds) chronograph, Gear Patrol did a really informative article:
https://www.gearpatrol.com/watches/a334856/rattrapante-chronograph-definition/
The Sinn 910 column-wheel split seconds (SI 381) is probably the only rattrapante chronograph you can find for under $10,000. Such a gorgeous watch and reasonably priced for the level of complication.
Also, did you mention a theme in your collection? Just curious if you predominantly lean in one direction or another.
You should check out Tsao Baltimore :-) They have a twin crown, compressor diver that is just beautiful and totally reasonably priced. I have been looking at their green dial GMT.
You should check out Tsao Baltimore :-) They have a twin crown, compressor diver that is just beautiful and totally reasonably priced. I have been looking at their green dial GMT.
Looks great ,I'll check it out ,thankyou
Thanks for the kind words.
Wow - lots of questions - I'll try and get to all of them:
4. The build quality is fantastic - same level as Sinn in my book - I don't have any Tutimas so can't comment on that comparison.
5. On the Pioneer, I would not worry about the 40mm diameter and the height is only 12.2mm so that should be relatively cuff friendly - and at 48mm lug-to-lug it should fit most wrists without overhang - really thorough review/video of the watch here from someone who has a 6.25 inch wrist: https://www.beansandbezels.com/reviews/hanhart-pioneer-preventor-9-watch-review/
Hope I didn't miss anything - if I did - send more questions.
Thank you very much for your reply, help and the information. Like I said, very hard to find any decent reviews on any of the Hanhart watches. I am lucky though, I have a good friend who is a AD for Hanhart in Australia and he’s offered me a decent discount on any of the Hanhart models, shame he can’t do the same on the Sinn’s but apparently the margins are so tight with Sinn he can only offer a small discount and free shipping, which I would never complain about. That Copperhead is definitely a special looking piece and would be a hard one to find, so your a lucky man there.
I’ll have to just bite the bullet and buy one, I’m sure once I have it in my hands I’ll be impressed and wonder why I waited so long to add one to the collection.
Thanks again mate, I appreciate your help 🙏🏻
Wow, I’ve never heard of hanhart, and the Pioneer you shared is stunning. How did you even hear about this brand? I’m always curious how folks get introduced to something clearly not mainstream.
A good friend of mine runs a AD for Hanhart in Australia, so he’s shown me a lot of their watches, but unfortunately only over the phone and online, but I will at some point get one for the collection. He’s introduced me to a lot of brands I’d never heard of or knew little about, I purchased a Tutima sevensea’s through his business and while it was very well made and a beautiful watch, it unfortunately was just that little bit too big for my wrist.
Hanhart has been around for a long time and have a good variety of watches to choose from, so when you get a chance you should definitely check them out, even if it’s through the Australian website “Define Watches “ at least you’ll have an idea of what is on offer 👍
@HotWatchChick69 you order the SBGY009 yet?
@HotWatchChick69 you order the SBGY009 yet?
Ha! No. No more watches for me for a while. Here's what I wrote in another thread:
Thank you very much for your reply, help and the information. Like I said, very hard to find any decent reviews on any of the Hanhart watches. I am lucky though, I have a good friend who is a AD for Hanhart in Australia and he’s offered me a decent discount on any of the Hanhart models, shame he can’t do the same on the Sinn’s but apparently the margins are so tight with Sinn he can only offer a small discount and free shipping, which I would never complain about. That Copperhead is definitely a special looking piece and would be a hard one to find, so your a lucky man there.
I’ll have to just bite the bullet and buy one, I’m sure once I have it in my hands I’ll be impressed and wonder why I waited so long to add one to the collection.
Thanks again mate, I appreciate your help 🙏🏻
Looks like Theo & Harris has a pre-owned "Copperhead" for sale in their shop (was just checking out their new listings). Here's the link:
Hanhart Revolution | Vintage Watches (theoandharris.com)
They are selling the watch for $3,215 - the original price of the watch was $2,050 - so a pretty steep premium. However, there were only 200 in the limited edition.