Mon-Sun date indicator?
I really like the look of the all-black Casio g-shock GA-2100-1A1. However, there is a problem with the day-of-week dial, at the 9 o'clock position, and I'm looking for some input from the community.
I know this sounds incredibly anal, but for me the week starts on Monday. It is the international (ISO-8601) standard, and I dislike seeing it differently on calendars, on website date-pickers, or, as in this case, on watches. If it would go Mon-Sun instead of Sun-Sat, I'd instantly buy it.
As I see it, I have a few options.
Get over it. This would be my preferred option but I'm afraid it's not a possibility 😬
Buy the very similar GAB-2100-1A1. This is solar-powered, and uses the dial in question for other functionality. However, as similar as it is, that watch has a shiny backplate, and I prefer the matte optics of the GA. Also, I do like the idea of a dedicated day-of-week dial, visually showing how far along in the week we currently are.
Get another watch altogether.
For this final option... Any ideas?! As close as possible to the GA-2100-1A1 - ideally: unobtrusively homogeneously matte black, analog, quartz, with date indicator, a day-of-week dial, and solar powered.
Related: is there a website where one can search watches, based on characteristics such as the ones I describe above?
Many thanks!
Hey, just a guy who's trying not to buy too many watches
After about a year of ownership, I think I have looked at the date wheel twice lol.
The Saturday to Sunday placement was a annoying at first, but after a while, you don't notice it.
Sunday is the start of the week.
Every modern calendar I see goes Sunday to Saturday. But no matter what some standard says, I believe in you. #1 is an option. You can certainly decide to accept it.
You could see it as a fun quirk, that the watch designers picked an arbitrary day to begin the week. You could view it as a foreign custom that is uniquely honored in this watch design. You could view it as a nod to the history of time tracking, and a recognition of how time has been kept in various arbitrary ways throughout history, based on both solar and lunar patterns, from the Roman calendar to the Gezer and Pentecontad agricultural calendars and countless others. The ancient Assyrian calendar had 5 day weeks broken into 6 equal parts per month. Some ancient calendar systems didn't even have a concept of weeks. When you see that calendars are somewhat arbitrary when it comes to beginnings and endings of cycles, it really doesn't matter what you call each day or when the cycle begins or ends.
The calendar is just a tool for your use. You get to choose how you interact with the tool, and it doesn't become any less useful just because SU is at the top instead of M.
In English culture Sunday is the start of the week, so it makes sense that a watch listing the days of the week in English follows English custom.
ISOs aren't really applicable in this case, as they aren't intended to standardize cultural practices, rather they are for business standardization.
In English culture Sunday is the start of the week, so it makes sense that a watch listing the days of the week in English follows English custom.
ISOs aren't really applicable in this case, as they aren't intended to standardize cultural practices, rather they are for business standardization.
If with "English" you mean "from USA and/or Canada", then I agree. If you mean "from England", I don't ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#/media/File:First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg
Sunday is the start of the week.
In some countries, it certainly is.
The Happy Days theme song set the rules.
If you don’t like it, sit on it.
If with "English" you mean "from USA and/or Canada", then I agree. If you mean "from England", I don't ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#/media/File:First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg
That map reflects the official government position, not the cultural one. The UK, having been an EU member, would have adopted the EU standard.
Also, since there are a few hundred million more English speakers in NA than in the UK, if you're making an English language product for world wide appeal, making in NA standard makes good business sense.
Every modern calendar I see goes Sunday to Saturday. But no matter what some standard says, I believe in you. #1 is an option. You can certainly decide to accept it.
You could see it as a fun quirk, that the watch designers picked an arbitrary day to begin the week. You could view it as a foreign custom that is uniquely honored in this watch design. You could view it as a nod to the history of time tracking, and a recognition of how time has been kept in various arbitrary ways throughout history, based on both solar and lunar patterns, from the Roman calendar to the Gezer and Pentecontad agricultural calendars and countless others. The ancient Assyrian calendar had 5 day weeks broken into 6 equal parts per month. Some ancient calendar systems didn't even have a concept of weeks. When you see that calendars are somewhat arbitrary when it comes to beginnings and endings of cycles, it really doesn't matter what you call each day or when the cycle begins or ends.
The calendar is just a tool for your use. You get to choose how you interact with the tool, and it doesn't become any less useful just because SU is at the top instead of M.
I understand where you're coming from and thank you for the perspective. Of course, the week loops around so the start is just a convention. But it's a convention that's different in different countries, and I happen to prefer it to start on Monday.
The reason I prefer to start with Monday is that, that way the dial is counting down to the weekend. And to me, the Sat and Sun belong together as part of the same weekend. As I acknowledge, it's really pedantic to actually care about this, but what is this if not a forum for people to be anal about watches ;)
That map reflects the official government position, not the cultural one. The UK, having been an EU member, would have adopted the EU standard.
Also, since there are a few hundred million more English speakers in NA than in the UK, if you're making an English language product for world wide appeal, making in NA standard makes good business sense.
This watch can display the day in many languages on the LCD, so it's not like it only caters to markets with native English speakers.
But that's beside the point. I'm not arguing it's bad business sense. I'm only arguing it's not how I like it, and I'm looking for suggestions.
I understand where you're coming from and thank you for the perspective. Of course, the week loops around so the start is just a convention. But it's a convention that's different in different countries, and I happen to prefer it to start on Monday.
The reason I prefer to start with Monday is that, that way the dial is counting down to the weekend. And to me, the Sat and Sun belong together as part of the same weekend. As I acknowledge, it's really pedantic to actually care about this, but what is this if not a forum for people to be anal about watches ;)
Well if you want to celebrate the weekend, you're in luck!
When the hand reaches SA at the bottom, it means the entire left portion of the day subdial represents the weekend. On Saturday at midnight, the hand will sweep all the way up to SU, representing the fullness of the long, glorious weekend. And then you still have all of Sunday to enjoy! Win-win!
Well if you want to celebrate the weekend, you're in luck!
When the hand reaches SA at the bottom, it means the entire left portion of the day subdial represents the weekend. On Saturday at midnight, the hand will sweep all the way up to SU, representing the fullness of the long, glorious weekend. And then you still have all of Sunday to enjoy! Win-win!
Thanks for that, made me laugh. You're a real optimist, I can tell 😊
Thanks for that, made me laugh. You're a real optimist, I can tell 😊
I can talk myself into liking just about anything. It can be a problem.
I guess you could always buy a mod part for that sub dial and have it fitted.
I guess you could always buy a mod part for that sub dial and have it fitted.
Hmmmm.... interested. Could you point me to some sources??
Because, afaiu, the day-of-week is set differently from the date, it could work - by telling the watch it's Sunday when in fact it's Monday. I would lose the ability to display the day-of-week on the LCD, but that might be worth it.
You got me thinking about different versions of this watch. I found this https://shockbase.org/watches/modelcode.php and was wondering if these actually differ in any way. Apart from where they are being sold. Does anyone know?
I doubt that. My guess is the product code is solely driven by logistics/licensing/distribution.
I have a GA-1200-1A1ER (ignore the aftermarket CasiOak mod) and the weekday subdial is SU-SA.
One more thing, have you ever seen the 2100 in person? I find it incredibly underwhelming, it looks and feels cheap, hence the attempt at modding it. If you like the subdued all-black look, I can highly recommend the GW-B5600BC-1BER, which I also have and it is in another league.
On a 24 hour clock, doesn't 12:59 AM (i.e. one minute before 1:00 AM) show up as 00:59? I'll check my Casio GA-2100 tonight, but I always thought the hours go from 00:00 to 23:59 for the 24 hour clock. 12:00 AM (on a 12 hour watch) is a bit confusing. I had to sit here and think for a while when the 12:00 AM comes. =)
(I've updated my comment as it was a bit ambiguous)
Every modern calendar I see goes Sunday to Saturday. But no matter what some standard says, I believe in you. #1 is an option. You can certainly decide to accept it.
You could see it as a fun quirk, that the watch designers picked an arbitrary day to begin the week. You could view it as a foreign custom that is uniquely honored in this watch design. You could view it as a nod to the history of time tracking, and a recognition of how time has been kept in various arbitrary ways throughout history, based on both solar and lunar patterns, from the Roman calendar to the Gezer and Pentecontad agricultural calendars and countless others. The ancient Assyrian calendar had 5 day weeks broken into 6 equal parts per month. Some ancient calendar systems didn't even have a concept of weeks. When you see that calendars are somewhat arbitrary when it comes to beginnings and endings of cycles, it really doesn't matter what you call each day or when the cycle begins or ends.
The calendar is just a tool for your use. You get to choose how you interact with the tool, and it doesn't become any less useful just because SU is at the top instead of M.
When you see that calendars are somewhat arbitrary when it comes to beginnings and endings of cycles, it really doesn't matter what you call each day or when the cycle begins or ends
I completely agree 💯 just make sure you don't start Friday as the beginning...That would suck LMAO 🤣😂😆
When you see that calendars are somewhat arbitrary when it comes to beginnings and endings of cycles, it really doesn't matter what you call each day or when the cycle begins or ends
I completely agree 💯 just make sure you don't start Friday as the beginning...That would suck LMAO 🤣😂😆
Then we’d just have TGIT, Tuesdays.
I think I may need a break from Watch Crunch.
If with "English" you mean "from USA and/or Canada", then I agree. If you mean "from England", I don't ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#/media/File:First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg
We all know that the brits are somehow...weird 😜, though we on the continent are not better when it comes to weirdness
first i ve got the same issues as you, but in the meantime i m getting used to it, knowing that all other g shocks make it the same way, though i cannot see it
This watch can display the day in many languages on the LCD, so it's not like it only caters to markets with native English speakers.
But that's beside the point. I'm not arguing it's bad business sense. I'm only arguing it's not how I like it, and I'm looking for suggestions.
It's a first world problem so sell the watch.
I doubt that. My guess is the product code is solely driven by logistics/licensing/distribution.
I have a GA-1200-1A1ER (ignore the aftermarket CasiOak mod) and the weekday subdial is SU-SA.
One more thing, have you ever seen the 2100 in person? I find it incredibly underwhelming, it looks and feels cheap, hence the attempt at modding it. If you like the subdued all-black look, I can highly recommend the GW-B5600BC-1BER, which I also have and it is in another league.
It's a g-shock. G-shocks are working man watch. Designed to be bruralized and not baby.
The 2100 is made out of carbon fiber. Lighter and stronger than titanium. It might feel cheap because it doesn't have much weight. However the new carbon core case is much stronger than previous case. Personally i like less weight.
Tortured g-shocks and they love it. Reddit have a sub group to show of your brutalized g-shock.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bashedupgshocks/
People that own g-shock regardless of how expensive they are really enjoy beating the crap out of them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTGBUzFdhw
G-shock boiled alive and bought back to life. That's a happy g-shock.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDavUmHvA4
It's a g-shock. G-shocks are working man watch. Designed to be bruralized and not baby.
The 2100 is made out of carbon fiber. Lighter and stronger than titanium. It might feel cheap because it doesn't have much weight. However the new carbon core case is much stronger than previous case. Personally i like less weight.
Tortured g-shocks and they love it. Reddit have a sub group to show of your brutalized g-shock.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bashedupgshocks/
People that own g-shock regardless of how expensive they are really enjoy beating the crap out of them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTGBUzFdhw
G-shock boiled alive and bought back to life. That's a happy g-shock.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDavUmHvA4
LOL where did I write anything in contrast to that? That's not what I was saying…
having both, right after saying the 2100 looks and feels cheap I added that the 5600 looks and feels fantastic, and I didn't mention anything about babying them 🤷♀
It's a first world problem so sell the watch.
I don't understand what you are trying to say
Found this on the internet:
Hope this helps! 😀
According to the Bible, G-d rested on the seventh day, hence the Sabbath, ie Saturday. On the first day of the week, the women went to the empty tomb, that is the day of resurrection, ie Sunday. Are you going to challenge the Bible?
I know I'm late for this suggestion, but just get a bluetooth version of this watch. It does NOT have a day of the week indicator on the 9 o'clock position. Instead, it has the function indicator, which is useless to me 99% of the time. I wish the bluetooth version had the day of the week indicator instead - the first day of the week being Sunday notwithstanding.
I know I'm late for this suggestion, but just get a bluetooth version of this watch. It does NOT have a day of the week indicator on the 9 o'clock position. Instead, it has the function indicator, which is useless to me 99% of the time. I wish the bluetooth version had the day of the week indicator instead - the first day of the week being Sunday notwithstanding.
I looked into that. I love the idea of it being solar powered. But I don't like the look of that shiny backplate.
I think it’s pretty simple - if you’re in Israel, your week starts on Sunday. If you’re not there - your week starts on Monday