The Seiko Seitona SSC813 is a great watch but rather expensive for what you're getting.

It's a great watch but for almost $700 it's kind of a hard pill to swallow. What do you all think?

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I don't know this particular watch and I didn't watch the video, but I feel obligated to give my opinion anyway.  

Yes, it's overpriced for what you get.  Seiko thinks far too much of themselves these days, and their prices show it.  Or maybe I just got used to them being undervalued because there was a glut of Seikos on the market in the past.  But if that's true, then they really have nobody to blame but themselves.  Either way, if a company can't line up their markers and they can't bother to put a sapphire crystal on a watch, then they have no business charging $700 for a watch.

Seiko need to get their sh*t together, and I'd appreciate it if the rest of you would stop buying their nonsense watches until they do.  Really, stop encouraging them.

EDIT: Ok, fine, I watched the video.  I stand by what I said up top, but should add a few things.  As usual, Seiko makes a good-looking watch.  It's really just the lack of value at that price that turns me off.  Also, thanks for the video, I think you really nailed it.  You gave us an idea of how the watch is in real life, the production looks good, and you've got a good voice for watch reviews.  Best of luck.

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I have the #sbdl089 - the #jdm  version of the yellow one (#ssc817):

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I can't speak more highly of it in terms of design, accuracy, and how it comes from a long lineage of #seiko #speedtimers. That said, the reason I ended up with the JDM version was I refused to pay AUD$1100.⁰⁰ for it on release. Instead I went in a crazy hunt for one on various #japanese shopping sites. In the end the one I bought was pre-owned (like for a month) and I ended up paying about JPY¥40,000 including #shipping and shopping site fees (let's say USD$500 for the sake of argument).

Almost a year later the SSC813 is still an unreasonable AUD$850.⁰⁰, but if I was paying AUD #prices in USD and found a reputable Australian watch retailer, that's closer to $550.⁰⁰ of your American dollars...

#value propositions are totally subjective, but does a $200 #discount change your mind?

Here's a link. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but have bought 2 (maybe 3) watches from them in the last 12 months with no issue.

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I'm not so sure that the SCC Speedtimers are such great watches.

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According to https://www.seikowatches.com/us-en/products/prospex/SSC813, this watch has a sapphire crystal, anti-reflective coating, Seiko Lumibrite, and a solar mecha-quartz movement at $675. With those specs, I think this watch is marginally over-priced, but not wildly so and may be justified if you are a huge Seiko fan.

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I think the issue is that this is a rather conservative design in a field where Seiko has been creative. Seiko has plenty of really interesting chrono-designs in their offering, and I also wouldn't why to pick this particular watch. (And Seiko is my favorite brand.)

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I really like it, but it's on the pricey side. As a lower cost alternative I bought a JDM Seiko Spirit SBTR027 from Sakura. Bracelet is not great, but absolutely love everything else about it. About $160 shipped. Hardlex and non solar are small drawbacks. But mecha quartz movement is a plus.

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Nice, but I suspect that's a $400 watch, with a $300 premium because it looks a bit - purely co-incidentally, of course - like another well-known, very popular, chronograph.. 

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I like the look but not the price and I'm not a Seiko fanboy but if they have something good I don't mind saying its good. However even if it is good it still needs to have a price to match its market value and if you can get something just as good from the competition (cough micro brand) for a lesser price then... nuff said 👍

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Catskinner

I'm not so sure that the SCC Speedtimers are such great watches.

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I got mine on eBay at a much lower price because I agree that the price is rather inflated. Having said that, I love everything about it for what it is - a quartz chrono.

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Son, you don't buy a Seiko at retail is what an old timer would've said to me. 

I have the SSC817 on a Nato strap. Bought it new at $411 new. Just wait and most stores would slash down prices.

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Archangel

Nice, but I suspect that's a $400 watch, with a $300 premium because it looks a bit - purely co-incidentally, of course - like another well-known, very popular, chronograph.. 

because it looks a bit - purely co-incidentally, of course - like another well-known, very popular, chronograph.. 

Do you mean like the 

Seiko 6138-8020?

Seiko SND219?

Seiko SBPY165?

Seiko SKS201?

Seiko SNFF93?

Seiko SND219?

Or my personal favourite the Seiko SND119?

All "well-known, very popular, chronograph[s]". 

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I enjoyed your YouTube review and subscribed. 

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Just got the white dial version in a week ago. About $400 through the secondary market. My first impression: small, don't like the bracelet, can't make it fit. Just got in a nice Zulu Diver rubber strap, should work well. I do like the idea of a solar chronograph. There is a new version that is larger, correct? back up to $800 or so USD?

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@thekris, You reviewed this watch, yet you say,

I don't know this particular watch and I didn't watch the video

Why review a watch you know nothing about? For instance, this model does have a sapphire crystal. You don’t seem well informed. Correcting the errors you made about the watch itself, and polishing up your writing skills would likely help your credibility.

As for the watch, I like it. It’s easy to read, though a brighter lume would be nice. I had expected the lume to be brighter, and it would be nice if the lume were to remain visible for longer. This is the first Seiko watch I have owned. I don’t know enough about Seiko, or watches in general to comment with any authority on the price and the relative value of the watch.

Buying a watch on the secondary market might get you a lower price, but I think purchasing it that way can be a problem if your watch requires any work to be done under the warranty. I like the idea of purchasing a watch from an authorized dealer. That way, I’m secure in knowing Seiko (or any other brand, for that matter) will honor the warranty.

I’ve noticed people commenting, in a lot of detail, on this particular watch looking a lot like the Rolex Daytona. Much of what is said implies (or says, explicitly) that the similarities between the Speedtimer and the Rolex Daytona are intentional. Seiko established itself years ago as a quality watch manufacturer. With a long-standing reputation that is so good, what possible reason would Seiko have to use a design from another watch manufacturer? Comments like that say more about the people making them and little about Seiko.

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thekris

I don't know this particular watch and I didn't watch the video, but I feel obligated to give my opinion anyway.  

Yes, it's overpriced for what you get.  Seiko thinks far too much of themselves these days, and their prices show it.  Or maybe I just got used to them being undervalued because there was a glut of Seikos on the market in the past.  But if that's true, then they really have nobody to blame but themselves.  Either way, if a company can't line up their markers and they can't bother to put a sapphire crystal on a watch, then they have no business charging $700 for a watch.

Seiko need to get their sh*t together, and I'd appreciate it if the rest of you would stop buying their nonsense watches until they do.  Really, stop encouraging them.

EDIT: Ok, fine, I watched the video.  I stand by what I said up top, but should add a few things.  As usual, Seiko makes a good-looking watch.  It's really just the lack of value at that price that turns me off.  Also, thanks for the video, I think you really nailed it.  You gave us an idea of how the watch is in real life, the production looks good, and you've got a good voice for watch reviews.  Best of luck.

This watch does come with sapphire. Also I haven’t owned this one but I owned another solar and it kept time superbly and never stopped running even if I kept in in my case for weeks. Considering buying this watch right now because I want a good quarts and this thing will never need a battery replacement, virtually zero maintenance for at least 10 years. But I’m sure the bracelet won’t bet that great. That and the QC on the lower-mid level divers’ bezels I think are seiko’s biggest issues. Plus I would never pay full retail for any watch.

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StefanG

@thekris, You reviewed this watch, yet you say,

I don't know this particular watch and I didn't watch the video

Why review a watch you know nothing about? For instance, this model does have a sapphire crystal. You don’t seem well informed. Correcting the errors you made about the watch itself, and polishing up your writing skills would likely help your credibility.

As for the watch, I like it. It’s easy to read, though a brighter lume would be nice. I had expected the lume to be brighter, and it would be nice if the lume were to remain visible for longer. This is the first Seiko watch I have owned. I don’t know enough about Seiko, or watches in general to comment with any authority on the price and the relative value of the watch.

Buying a watch on the secondary market might get you a lower price, but I think purchasing it that way can be a problem if your watch requires any work to be done under the warranty. I like the idea of purchasing a watch from an authorized dealer. That way, I’m secure in knowing Seiko (or any other brand, for that matter) will honor the warranty.

I’ve noticed people commenting, in a lot of detail, on this particular watch looking a lot like the Rolex Daytona. Much of what is said implies (or says, explicitly) that the similarities between the Speedtimer and the Rolex Daytona are intentional. Seiko established itself years ago as a quality watch manufacturer. With a long-standing reputation that is so good, what possible reason would Seiko have to use a design from another watch manufacturer? Comments like that say more about the people making them and little about Seiko.

Well, I didn’t write a review of the watch so much as comment on it and Seiko in general. I don’t believe I need to own a watch to share my thoughts on a watch and/or manufacturer.

As for the sapphire comment, that’s a generalization about Seiko…they produce many watches that cost more than similar watches while lacking things like sapphire crystals and properly aligned markers. That’s not an opinion so much as a fact. Maybe I should confine such thoughts to posts about Seiko as a brand and not particular watches, but, well, I don’t wanna. Every time somebody brings up Seiko, I mention their shortcomings. If it matters to you, I do it out of love. I think they make some really nice watches and have great history. And that’s why I’m often disappointed in them.

As for my writing, I’ll be sure to polish it up as best I can next time I write a legitimate review.

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thekris

Well, I didn’t write a review of the watch so much as comment on it and Seiko in general. I don’t believe I need to own a watch to share my thoughts on a watch and/or manufacturer.

As for the sapphire comment, that’s a generalization about Seiko…they produce many watches that cost more than similar watches while lacking things like sapphire crystals and properly aligned markers. That’s not an opinion so much as a fact. Maybe I should confine such thoughts to posts about Seiko as a brand and not particular watches, but, well, I don’t wanna. Every time somebody brings up Seiko, I mention their shortcomings. If it matters to you, I do it out of love. I think they make some really nice watches and have great history. And that’s why I’m often disappointed in them.

As for my writing, I’ll be sure to polish it up as best I can next time I write a legitimate review.

Hey,

I want to apologize. I was harsh in what I said in response to your review... about writing skills. That was unnecessary on my part, and you didn't deserve that. I went too far with that, so I am sorry. As for doing what you do out of love--love for the brand--I'm all for that, and it's a good reason to want to contribute to comments.

This is my first Seiko, and I like it. As time goes on, I find myself being critical of the watch in a few ways, and I think that's what you were doing--just seeing some things that Seiko might have given more consideration to. That's valid.😀

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StefanG

Hey,

I want to apologize. I was harsh in what I said in response to your review... about writing skills. That was unnecessary on my part, and you didn't deserve that. I went too far with that, so I am sorry. As for doing what you do out of love--love for the brand--I'm all for that, and it's a good reason to want to contribute to comments.

This is my first Seiko, and I like it. As time goes on, I find myself being critical of the watch in a few ways, and I think that's what you were doing--just seeing some things that Seiko might have given more consideration to. That's valid.😀

No need to apologize, we’re just talking watches. I appreciate the thought though.

I actually really like the speedtimer, its a great looking watch. I’ve considered getting one several times and will consider it again I’m sure. I don’t love the date window, but that’s my only issue with it and I’m sure I can get over it.

My dissatisfaction with Seiko mostly has to do with their divers. It’s probably because my first automatic watch was an SKX. It had flaws, but that was ok at $200. I see them selling pretty much the same thing for many times more and it bothers me, but mostly because I want to buy a couple more Seiko divers.