Are Steinhart watches good?

Yes. Very good. Easily as good/better than the examples you list.

That dial on the flieger is really interesting.

They're not entirely bad, they're a lot more vintage style focused to compared to other homage brands so that's mostly what you're paying for

I've owned four Steinharts, and currently have two (2 Ocean 39 models, an Ocean 39 Classic, and an Ocean 39 GMT). They have all been solid, well built watches, and a great value.

Love my Ocean 39 vintage GMT (OLKO edition). Amazing watch for the money, and while the bracelet is good, I really like it on a strap.

I'll be buying more Steinharts.

Steinhart makes excellent watches. They’ve been in business for 20 years. I am actually selling my 904L premium model I’d you’re interested. My only gripe with steinhart is that some of the lume plots on their ceramic bezels can be off-white in color.

What are their weak points in your opinion?

What a beauty

I see that you have a black diver Squale and a SPB143. Between Steinhart and Squale, which one would you say offers the best quality? Would you choose a Steinhart diver over the SPB143?

That's a tough choice between Squale and Steinhart. I'd say the quality is pretty similar, but the Squale is closer to the Submariner in dimensions, and it has a much better cyclops.

The SPB143 is very different to me from the Squale and Steinhart Sub homages. So, I wouldn't pick either over the Seiko. But I would say the quality levels are not too different.

If you're okay with the relatively flat cases that Steinhart uses, and the low magnification cyclops, I can't imagine you would be unsatisfied with Steinhart's quality for the price.

I don’t own one, nor held one in hand, but everyone razes about them. I’ve read nothing but positive reviews.

I think you can find better homages out there at a wider range of prices. Pagani Design focuses on the best bang for the buck around $100 but on the other side San Martin really focuses on quality but you're gonna pay $400-500. Some Steinharts are around $200 and they don't really do anything better or different compared to those other brands

I plan on getting one as most owners rave about them.

I actually like their non homage stuff the best. They seem at last to be producing some original designs.

In particular the titanium Ocean 39 GMT ceramic.

Amazing specs for the money and looks pretty cool to me.

That's what I'm worried about, the watches have incredibly good specifications and a beautiful movement. Is just to good to be true I think. I can't avoid thinking they have cut corners somewhere to make a profit. Or maybe I'm just used to overinflated prices.

Any examples of a $200 Steinhart?

Or a $500 San Martin?

The problems with using Chinese parts are mitigated by the swiss who assemble and lubricate them. The Chinese are great at making parts but fail miserably at the assembly and lubrication. If the Swiss put their name on things they are put together well. Plastic in watch movements has been used for many years and is proven to be a good practice. There is very little stress on watch movement parts so things like nylon are strong and self lubricating.

But the point of my comment was not about the integrity of Swiss watches but only to make sure that we are all aware of what Swiss made means! Many people who look down on anything non Swiss should consider that not all parts of Swiss brands are made in Switzerland. How they are used and lubricated by the Swiss as well as the fact that ALL Chinese assembled watches are crap is a different discussion subject The truth is somewhere in the middle as with everything in life.

I have never seen a Glycine with a Powermatic 80 in it. I have had three, and they have either had an ETA or Sellita in

Thank you kindly! 🍻

Well i'm not really talking about steinhart in particular. Maybe i was just a little too vague about that so my apologies if it was taken to apply to steinhart or any microbrand in particular.

In any case, i may even add that great customer service and business integrity add even more value to the brand not just the quality of the make and parts. If any microbrand can do that as well or even better than the established brands, then they are set up for success

Glycine only uses Sellita movements these days, as they are not part of the Swatch group. They have never had a watch with a Powermatic movement.

You are rigth. I was thinking about Certina.

I understand. I often hear very positive comments about Christopher Ward's good service

You are right, I was thinking about another brand.

I think if one is going for homage watches, then I'd go for San Martin. The quality is unbeatable and cheaper than Steinhart. I had a couple SM myself before deciding that I did not enjoy copy-type homages

an option sounds just fine to me, depending on the watch in low light situations, I would say half of mine are unreadable

Little comparison between steinhart and san martin pics taken from their sites. Have to see the actual first before giving my thought.

#steinhart watches are great

I bought this one and really enjoy it

I can see why! Looks fantastic. I think that will be my first steinhart!