Flyback Chronographs

Simply loving this masterpiece. Out and about with the kids the straps that come with this are so cool.

I’ve always wondered about the flyback Chrono function. I realized it’s perfect when my kids ask me to time them running an obstacle course.

I’m pretty sure it’s not this purpose but love the functionality.

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Gotta love the TypeXX :)

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My favorite complication by far. Great for cooking.

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DavidGlenn

My favorite complication by far. Great for cooking.

Thank you sir!

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Flyback? 🤔

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Underated piece, love it.

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Solrighal

Flyback? 🤔

Hit the chrono button on the top, let it run, hit the same button again it resets and.... AKA the flyback function.

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Great watch but just a little expensive 😅

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angleechew

Hit the chrono button on the top, let it run, hit the same button again it resets and.... AKA the flyback function.

Thanks for the explanation. It sounds cool.

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Gorgeous

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I'm sure that was the main purpose of that functionality. Some people might have found secondary uses like timing race cars, but that's odd.

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That is a great looking watch. Enjoy.

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For this particular family of watches, the French Air Force specifically had a list of “must haves” for contractors to build to. These specs, contract, and ultimately watches became the Type XX. Many manufacturers over the years were suppliers to the French for these timepieces, Mathey Tissot, Airain, etc.

The fly back functionality was a required spec. Fly backs allow chronograph start-stop-reset and start with a single push of a button.

Breguet was/is the longest supplying and most prestigious brand manufacturing these watches. They offered civilian versions of these watches with slightly different specs over the years, resulting in Type XXI and TYPE XXII versions. These differences usually revolve around a third subdial, bicomompax was the military spec, and/or a date complication.

Hodinkee has a couple of great articles about these watches and their history.

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TickingTime

I'm sure that was the main purpose of that functionality. Some people might have found secondary uses like timing race cars, but that's odd.

Dad’s with kids then get into the car

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Timeflies

For this particular family of watches, the French Air Force specifically had a list of “must haves” for contractors to build to. These specs, contract, and ultimately watches became the Type XX. Many manufacturers over the years were suppliers to the French for these timepieces, Mathey Tissot, Airain, etc.

The fly back functionality was a required spec. Fly backs allow chronograph start-stop-reset and start with a single push of a button.

Breguet was/is the longest supplying and most prestigious brand manufacturing these watches. They offered civilian versions of these watches with slightly different specs over the years, resulting in Type XXI and TYPE XXII versions. These differences usually revolve around a third subdial, bicomompax was the military spec, and/or a date complication.

Hodinkee has a couple of great articles about these watches and their history.

Thank you!!! Learn something everyday

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Grail goals right there! Beautiful watch. I'm partial to the older Aeronavale 3800's.

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Gorgeous!!

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Flyback complication is designed for repeated take-offs. I have the same delightful watch in my collection.

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angleechew

Hit the chrono button on the top, let it run, hit the same button again it resets and.... AKA the flyback function.

It’s impressive engineering, which I love for its own sake.

But I don’t really get the use case scenario on a flyback 🤔

Is it that you ‘kind of’ see time elapsed, before the hand zaps back to 0.0 position?

Timing your kids fun is fine, but I’d think if I’m always missing the first elapsed time it’d be troublesome when I want to see precisely that first interval…?

Irrespective- lovely looking watch my friend 👍

EDIT : just saw below there is some old military spec reason for this function! I’ll research more myself!

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tempuslatro

Grail goals right there! Beautiful watch. I'm partial to the older Aeronavale 3800's.

Lovely @tempuslatro

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Fieldwalker

It’s impressive engineering, which I love for its own sake.

But I don’t really get the use case scenario on a flyback 🤔

Is it that you ‘kind of’ see time elapsed, before the hand zaps back to 0.0 position?

Timing your kids fun is fine, but I’d think if I’m always missing the first elapsed time it’d be troublesome when I want to see precisely that first interval…?

Irrespective- lovely looking watch my friend 👍

EDIT : just saw below there is some old military spec reason for this function! I’ll research more myself!

Thank you @Fieldwalker always appreciate your wisdom on this channel

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Fieldwalker

It’s impressive engineering, which I love for its own sake.

But I don’t really get the use case scenario on a flyback 🤔

Is it that you ‘kind of’ see time elapsed, before the hand zaps back to 0.0 position?

Timing your kids fun is fine, but I’d think if I’m always missing the first elapsed time it’d be troublesome when I want to see precisely that first interval…?

Irrespective- lovely looking watch my friend 👍

EDIT : just saw below there is some old military spec reason for this function! I’ll research more myself!

I believe it helped with navigation as well. Fly at x speed on a specific heading for x minutes, hit the flyback button, then change your heading for x minutes, then drop your bombs. The stop, reset, restart of normal chronos could put you slightly off of the mark when you're traveling at higher speeds.

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tempuslatro

I believe it helped with navigation as well. Fly at x speed on a specific heading for x minutes, hit the flyback button, then change your heading for x minutes, then drop your bombs. The stop, reset, restart of normal chronos could put you slightly off of the mark when you're traveling at higher speeds.

Very cool - puts you in the mindset of a nav guy on a 1940s bomber, shouting ‘mark!’.. and immediately timing again from a turn

I’ve got my grandfathers Waltham A4, a 1943 Navigators timer. It’s 144k bph escapement means it sounds like a cricket on meth when timing anything.

It’s designed to check ground speed: fly over a thing you know, hit stopwatch, fly over second landmark, stop timing. Known distance / elapsed time = ground speed.

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Large hand is a quick moving 10 second timer, small dial counts 10 minutes. Useful for when you want to precisely time from 0 to 10 minutes, in the early 1940s

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Fieldwalker

It’s impressive engineering, which I love for its own sake.

But I don’t really get the use case scenario on a flyback 🤔

Is it that you ‘kind of’ see time elapsed, before the hand zaps back to 0.0 position?

Timing your kids fun is fine, but I’d think if I’m always missing the first elapsed time it’d be troublesome when I want to see precisely that first interval…?

Irrespective- lovely looking watch my friend 👍

EDIT : just saw below there is some old military spec reason for this function! I’ll research more myself!

As i was saying, the flyback function is imagined if you must start a series of events (e.g. the take off of a group of aeromobiles) at regular intervals. An example, beside the military use that i described and for which the complication was specifically developed, the start of athletes in a bycicle chrono race… first biker starts as one activates the chrono, waits for let’s say 30” and allows the second biker to start while restarting the chrono so that, after other 30” the third is allowed his run, aso

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Fieldwalker

Very cool - puts you in the mindset of a nav guy on a 1940s bomber, shouting ‘mark!’.. and immediately timing again from a turn

I’ve got my grandfathers Waltham A4, a 1943 Navigators timer. It’s 144k bph escapement means it sounds like a cricket on meth when timing anything.

It’s designed to check ground speed: fly over a thing you know, hit stopwatch, fly over second landmark, stop timing. Known distance / elapsed time = ground speed.

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Large hand is a quick moving 10 second timer, small dial counts 10 minutes. Useful for when you want to precisely time from 0 to 10 minutes, in the early 1940s

That is such a cool watch 🍻

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I was blown away by the XX in person. Such a nice watch, complete sleeper for me! Breguet always meant ‘dress watch’ to me before trying one of these on.

Flyback would be the way to go for me. You’ve chosen very well!

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tempuslatro

That is such a cool watch 🍻

Thank you sir!!! Appreciate that

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tempuslatro

I believe it helped with navigation as well. Fly at x speed on a specific heading for x minutes, hit the flyback button, then change your heading for x minutes, then drop your bombs. The stop, reset, restart of normal chronos could put you slightly off of the mark when you're traveling at higher speeds.

Thank you for sharing this information on the #breguet

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Fieldwalker

Very cool - puts you in the mindset of a nav guy on a 1940s bomber, shouting ‘mark!’.. and immediately timing again from a turn

I’ve got my grandfathers Waltham A4, a 1943 Navigators timer. It’s 144k bph escapement means it sounds like a cricket on meth when timing anything.

It’s designed to check ground speed: fly over a thing you know, hit stopwatch, fly over second landmark, stop timing. Known distance / elapsed time = ground speed.

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Large hand is a quick moving 10 second timer, small dial counts 10 minutes. Useful for when you want to precisely time from 0 to 10 minutes, in the early 1940s

Beautiful pocket watch. This is amazing, that dial is so coool.

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aliveandticking

I was blown away by the XX in person. Such a nice watch, complete sleeper for me! Breguet always meant ‘dress watch’ to me before trying one of these on.

Flyback would be the way to go for me. You’ve chosen very well!

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So so cool. THank you for sharing. Our AD was offering us this as well, but we went for the TypeXX Civilian in stead. I love the look of the Military edition but the 15min marker made it more balanced for me. Thanks for sharing.